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Jan 27, 2019 11:33:59   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Try ear plugs. That may keep the dirt from getting into the ear canal. Camera & glass once wet or dirty protection gone.

J. R.

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Jan 27, 2019 12:28:50   #
rcarol
 
I would have considered using the following product:
https://www.samys.com/p/Camera-Wraps--Skins/9001132/18-Rainsleeve-2-Pack/23607.html?origin=product-search&gclid=CjwKCAiAyrXiBRAjEiwATI95mZRnOgUaoieQP53xlpFLBSnl_CoGnZKz9Gegz5v9SOXxrTPi2i_MnhoCV14QAvD_BwE

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Jan 27, 2019 12:44:04   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Those are pretty good. Adding a couple rubber bands and a protective filter make them even better.

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Jan 27, 2019 13:25:36   #
HardworkingGal
 


As a newbie was wondering what inexpensive gear protection was available....thank you for this recommendation looks like an easy to use inexpensive solution; I will be getting a set of these to have on hand.

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Jan 27, 2019 14:07:45   #
Selene03
 
I bought a refurbished Canon sl2 and 70-300 usm II nano lens to use in boats and other places where I don't want to risk one of my better cameras. I agree with those who say the tough cameras won't cut it--they are too limited in features and in zoom capabilities. My solution has worked. A whale spouted on my first camera (the flash doesn't pop up any more, but still flashes correctly if manually raised--not that I have ever used the flash except to see if still worked). My friend is still using it and getting beautiful photos. I flipped my kayak and had the second camera in a non-drybag backpack, more of a purse really. The camera survived just fine--no damage, though I had to replace the lens. Drybags are great for protecting camears and the day I flipped the kayak was the only day I forgot to put the camera in--some kind of law there. I try to look for sales on the refurbished gear, so I don't have a big investment, but except for the lens, all has been fine. Before I adopted this solution, I used a variety of tough cameras and a very old (9 years) Panasonic point and shoot--which would stop working when it got too wet, but wasn't bad when dry. It still works by the way, though it has spent some time in bags of rice to dry it out.

I was honestly amazed at how well even the bottom of the line Canon camera survived getting dunked without taking water in. I think the Canon guys who looked at were pretty amazed too. Not that I would recommend taking a camera out without a drybag. As for dust, I have had plenty of that too with my good cameras. Maybe a rainsleeve????

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Jan 27, 2019 14:58:42   #
Bipod
 
Tips to keep a camera dry and prevent corrosion:
* Pack it inside plastic a food storage container along with a fresh dessicant pack
* A zip-lock bag with a dessicant pack can also be used, but won't last as long
* Most hotels have plastic showe caps that can be used to cover a camera in the rain.
* At night in your hotel, take the camera out of its case and allow it to dry
* Take the batteries out of the camera when it is not in use
* Do not touch electrical contact surfaces with your hands

Most (all?) have a constant , tiny current drain to operate the clock. In a damp
environment, this creates constant corrosion.

Sealed containers or bags without a dessicant pack are a bad idea--they trap moisture.

Or leave the good camera home and take a few disposable cameras instead.
The lenses are plastic, but the film is very good. You'll worry a lot less
about a camera that only cost around $10.

CAMERA LENS FILM PROCESSING PRICE
Kodak Fun Saver 2-element T-MAX 800 color print C41 $8
Ilford XP2 1-element XP2 400 chromogenic B&W print C41 $12
Ilford HP5 1-element HP5 Plus 400 B&W print trad. B&W $12

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Jan 27, 2019 15:48:57   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
crazydaddio wrote:
What tools, processes and tricks do you use to protect your best gear in nasty environments?

Background for question:
I recently took the Fam to Dominican Republic and we all went dirt buggying in the rainforest. I wanted some high end shots and with the variable light from being under the canopy to the beach, I brought 2 pieces of my gear that I could afford to lose (ie I dont ues them for paid work). My Canon70D and the Sigma 50mm1.4Art.

I protected the kit in 2 levels of plastic bags and took the kit out for pics during stops. It rained quite a bit during the photo ops so putting the kit back in the bag was like locking the fox in the chickenhouse.

In the end, I had dirt and moisture in the bag, LCD and top buttons on the 70D quit working (still able to take photos). All features returned to functioning again except cant download from the camera (use SD card reader so no issue).....and I am still digging dirt out of my ears. The excursion was a little like swimming through a mud puddle.

Attached is one of the photos.

Comments related to "tech", "process to protect" and any tricks/tips would be appreciated....
What tools, processes and tricks do you use to pro... (show quote)


Only three choices in my opinion. Weatherproof Panasonic or Olympus or the Olympus TG-5. I have shot on FAMs also and found the smaller 4/3rds fits better to the FAM style of travel. For the picture you provided, the TG-5 or similar camera would be best, but the weatherproof Olympuses and Panasonics are not wimps in weather and probably would have weathered what you showed in the picture. I have shot all day long in the rain with my former E-M5 and now my E-M1 mrII. I wash off any salt spray, sand, and dirt under gently running water from the faucet and then towel dry. Olympus said they were weatherproof and I took them at their word. I do not baby my camera and lens in times of rain, wind, snow, sand, dust, and dirt. My cameras so far have proved everything Olympus claims.

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Jan 27, 2019 16:00:47   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
bsprague wrote:
After watching me fuss over camera care for years, my wife gave me an Olympus TG-5 "tough" camera. She could see that camera care and fussing would get in the way of both of us having fun. My first reaction was that I thought it was a silly little thing. I had to force some excitement over receiving the gift. My thoughts included that the sensor was too small to ever get any quality. It has silly features like 4K video, a compass, GPS track logger, microscope mode and, yes, a flashlight! When you get it dirty you are supposed to give it a bath in the sink. The track logger puts a file on the card usable to put location data into the files from your other "real"cameras.

I resisted using it. Now it is my favorite "fun" camera. Last week I went skiing with my granddaughter. On complete automatic (with fill flash), I got an epic photo of her. It was a bright day at high noon on snow! Mt. Rainier is the background!

I don't know how Olympus does it. The overall picture quality is beyond what a small sensor camera can do.
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If you want another test, try getting the macro flash attachment. Absolutely amazing ability.

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Jan 27, 2019 16:36:50   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
crazydaddio wrote:
What tools, processes and tricks do you use to protect your best gear in nasty environments?

Background for question:
I recently took the Fam to Dominican Republic and we all went dirt buggying in the rainforest. I wanted some high end shots and with the variable light from being under the canopy to the beach, I brought 2 pieces of my gear that I could afford to lose (ie I dont ues them for paid work). My Canon70D and the Sigma 50mm1.4Art.

I protected the kit in 2 levels of plastic bags and took the kit out for pics during stops. It rained quite a bit during the photo ops so putting the kit back in the bag was like locking the fox in the chickenhouse.

In the end, I had dirt and moisture in the bag, LCD and top buttons on the 70D quit working (still able to take photos). All features returned to functioning again except cant download from the camera (use SD card reader so no issue).....and I am still digging dirt out of my ears. The excursion was a little like swimming through a mud puddle.

Attached is one of the photos.

Comments related to "tech", "process to protect" and any tricks/tips would be appreciated....
What tools, processes and tricks do you use to pro... (show quote)


Unfortunately, Canons are known for their lack of resistance to water. Tony and Chelsea Northrup once took a couple of 5D IIIs on a job in the snow, sleet, and freezing rain. They had Lumix cameras with them, too. Both 5D IIIs quit working when they got wet, but the Lumix gear just kept going.

I use a Lumix GH4. It is weather-resistant, and so are my 12-35mm and 35-70mm f/2.8 zoom lenses (24-200mm FF equivalent field of view). I've used the system in 12F and 101F weather, and it's been rained on several times. I spilled a mug of hot black coffee on the camera once. It has never quit on me, overheated, frozen up, or leaked. The G9 and the GH5 and GH5s are similarly weather-resistant, although even better sealed. Panasonic has made several other lenses weather-resistant, too.

I carry two kitchen size trash bags under the foam floor of my camera bag, for emergencies. I have clear glass filters, ND3 and ND8 filters (an absolute necessity for decent video work!), and circular polarizers. My zooms ALWAYS have hoods attached, but I only use filters when I truly need them for protection or effects. The clear glass goes on at the beach, or around any process that could throw off debris, sparks, particulates or liquids. I also use it at events where I'm working in a crowd.

I do have one UV filter, but I never use it below 5000 feet. If I still used film, that would be a different story. If I'm photographing anything with a point light source in a relatively dark field (think: stars), ALL the filters stay in the bag. Using filters in that case is just asking for lens flares and ghost images.

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Jan 27, 2019 17:10:17   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
Unfortunately, Canons are known for their lack of resistance to water. Tony and Chelsea Northrup once took a couple of 5D IIIs on a job in the snow, sleet, and freezing rain. They had Lumix cameras with them, too. Both 5D IIIs quit working when they got wet, but the Lumix gear just kept going.

I use a Lumix GH4. It is weather-resistant, and so are my 12-35mm and 35-70mm f/2.8 zoom lenses (24-200mm FF equivalent field of view). I've used the system in 12F and 101F weather, and it's been rained on several times. I spilled a mug of hot black coffee on the camera once. It has never quit on me, overheated, frozen up, or leaked. The G9 and the GH5 and GH5s are similarly weather-resistant, although even better sealed. Panasonic has made several other lenses weather-resistant, too.

I carry two kitchen size trash bags under the foam floor of my camera bag, for emergencies. I have clear glass filters, ND3 and ND8 filters (an absolute necessity for decent video work!), and circular polarizers. My zooms ALWAYS have hoods attached, but I only use filters when I truly need them for protection or effects. The clear glass goes on at the beach, or around any process that could throw off debris, sparks, particulates or liquids. I also use it at events where I'm working in a crowd.

I do have one UV filter, but I never use it below 5000 feet. If I still used film, that would be a different story. If I'm photographing anything with a point light source in a relatively dark field (think: stars), ALL the filters stay in the bag. Using filters in that case is just asking for lens flares and ghost images.
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Thanks for filling us in on the Panasonic cameras. I know that all but the Olympus E-M10 series are weatherproof. I wasn't sure which of the Panasonics were. Sounds like you have had the similar weather and other accidents (I accidentally spilled hot coffee on my E-M1 mrII; once it was rinsed and dried, it was ready to go).

For most rain, dust, and dirt situations, I use an artificial chamois to remove the majority of water from the front element, followed by microfiber towel and lens cloth. It is easier to wring more water out of them than a cotton handkerchief (as I found out the hard way).

Do you have a particular method for water removal from the front element?

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Jan 27, 2019 19:39:55   #
PierreD
 
Suggestion of the day: Before a trip during which you will take pictures in harsh environments, make sure that your camera can handle it. If not, then either no camera or another model.

Other have already commented that the Olympus TG-5 (and some others) is a top choice.

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Jan 28, 2019 00:42:45   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Bill_de wrote:
Check the price on underwater housings. It could be cheaper to replace the gear.

Personally I would have used whichever camera I owned that had the best weather sealing. Part of the reason they are expensive is so you don't have to worry about them.

I still use a 500mm that was caked in ice from being on an ocean beach during a snow storm that turned into an ice storm. It was over my shoulder on a tripod during the walk back to the car. We were a group of six with good Canon and Nikon gear. We put the stuff in our cars with towels under and over. Not a single piece of gear had any ill effects. This was around 20 years ago. Weather sealing is even better today.

Reminds me of a neighbor who had a nice new Jeep and got stuck in a snow storm. He had decided to take his wife's Hyundai coupe rather than mess up his Jeep. He never lived that one down.


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He could have been stuck just as easy with his jeep... My jeep always had a winch on the front.

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Jan 28, 2019 06:26:07   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
Bigmike1 wrote:
I would not have gone to the Dominican Republic. Problem solved.


My thoughts too. And 10k to do buggy riding in a jungle. 10k is a lot for Dominican vacation unless paying for the whole party. To each their own.

I agree with many not to take your good gear in those conditions.

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Jan 28, 2019 07:06:52   #
Grnway Loc: Manchester, NH
 
Bipod wrote:
Tips to keep a camera dry and prevent corrosion:
* Pack it inside plastic a food storage container along with a fresh dessicant pack
* A zip-lock bag with a dessicant pack can also be used, but won't last as long
* Most hotels have plastic showe caps that can be used to cover a camera in the rain.
* At night in your hotel, take the camera out of its case and allow it to dry
* Take the batteries out of the camera when it is not in use
* Do not touch electrical contact surfaces with your hands

Most (all?) have a constant , tiny current drain to operate the clock. In a damp
environment, this creates constant corrosion.

Sealed containers or bags without a dessicant pack are a bad idea--they trap moisture.

Or leave the good camera home and take a few disposable cameras instead.
The lenses are plastic, but the film is very good. You'll worry a lot less
about a camera that only cost around $10.

CAMERA LENS FILM PROCESSING PRICE
Kodak Fun Saver 2-element T-MAX 800 color print C41 $8
Ilford XP2 1-element XP2 400 chromogenic B&W print C41 $12
Ilford HP5 1-element HP5 Plus 400 B&W print trad. B&W $12
Tips to keep a camera dry and prevent corrosion: b... (show quote)


All excellent points! When I take my camera to any outdoor activity, I bring a gallon (or larger, depending on lens size, food storage bag. I never thought to throw a silica gel pack in there, but i will now.
My camera (Fuji xt-2 &3) bodies and lenses are all weather sealed, but that doesn't mean I want to test that.

From the looks of your gear, you obviously are used to very high IQ. Frankly, I'm surprised that you consider that Sigma 1.4 Art lens to be "expendable"! That's a sweet lens!

I would seriously consider the previously suggested camera purchases instead of taking the attitude of considering a 70D and the Sigma lens "expendable."

I would also consider a newer cell phone with a Lifeproof, or similar case. The IQ of an iPhone, Samsung, Google, or anything within the last few years is amazing! For the type of photo you took, this would have surprisingly good IQ

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Jan 28, 2019 09:27:48   #
rwww80a Loc: Hampton, NH
 
Buy a used Nikonos!

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