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Jan 20, 2019 16:23:01   #
jcboy3
 
phcaan wrote:
Oh, my, he hit a little closer to home than is comfortable for you?


Not even close, and your attempt is just as laughable.

In a war of words, there is no blood.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:27:19   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
So you admit that the democrats would rather let people go without pay than do anything to help if that help was proposed by a republican.


That wasn’t “help” and any reasonable person sees through it. It’s funny, as lame as it was, pence is already backpedaling. I love how gullible you are.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:29:27   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
Are you drinking again? The President is willing to make concessions in order to come to some agreement but Nancy simply said that there will never be a wall in the border, so who is extending the shut down?


TEMPORARY concessions for a PERMANENT wall. Are you really that stupid?

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Jan 20, 2019 16:39:19   #
jcboy3
 
wooden_ships wrote:
That wasn’t “help” and any reasonable person sees through it. It’s funny, as lame as it was, pence is already backpedaling. I love how gullible you are.


Democrats could propose some key items like permanent DACA and restored TPS. That would likely get rejected initially as the Coulter/Lumbaugh crowd screams. Which would drag out the shutdown while making it appear that progress was being made.

But there is a bigger issue here, and that is whether Democrats can let Trump use government shutdown as a negotiating tactic. Because if they let him do it once, he will do it again and again. There are a lot of spending bills that can be used for that tactic. Plus the national debt limit. So they must stand firm against it.

I just wish they were a bit better at telling this story. Between these issues:

1) The ~$1.6 billion in border security funds that haven't been spent in the past year (or two),

2) the fact that this shutdown over the wall affects border security (by shutting down Justice, Homeland Security, and the Coast Guard),

3) the fact that they don't yet know what type of wall to build (and they're talking fence now, anyway, which doesn't work very well),

4) AND the issue of negotiating with an extortionist (Trump)

No Negotiating with Terrorists and Extortionists

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Jan 20, 2019 16:39:37   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
But the democrat will offer nothing, so who is holding up progress now?


Trump owns the shutdown and is still to blame for its continuation.

Trump’s offer was nothing more than a photo-op offer, no substance... just more deceptions and his lemmings somehow “think” the deal should be accepted.

The Republican Party will never recover in our lifetime. It has been outed as the party of haters, liars and racists.

This is a quote from an RNC activist:
“We’re in a demographic death spiral,” said Republican consultant John Weaver, a top aide to former Ohio GOP Gov. John Kasich. “If we were Coca-Cola or Delta or any product on the market, would you be happy that your customers, your base of support, were old, white and closed-minded?”

Enough said; you trump lemmings are ruining the conservative movement the USA needs to survive the 21st century. We’re spending ourselves into fiscal bankruptcy. It started with trump’s moral bankruptcy and trump supporters are to blame for the worsening slide into chaos.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:42:22   #
jcboy3
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump owns the shutdown and is still to blame for its continuation.

Trump’s offer was nothing more than a photo-op offer, no substance... just more deceptions and his lemmings somehow “think” the deal should be accepted.

The Republican Party will never recover in our lifetime. It has been outed as the party of haters, liars and racists.

This is a quote from an RNC activist:
“We’re in a demographic death spiral,” said Republican consultant John Weaver, a top aide to former Ohio GOP Gov. John Kasich. “If we were Coca-Cola or Delta or any product on the market, would you be happy that your customers, your base of support, were old, white and closed-minded?”

Enough said; you trump lemmings are ruining the conservative movement the USA needs to survive the 21st century. We’re spending ourselves into fiscal bankruptcy. It started with trump’s moral bankruptcy and trump supporters are to blame for the worsening slide into chaos.
Trump owns the shutdown and is still to blame for ... (show quote)


Except Coulter was immediately critical of the proposal as "amnesty". If Trump keeps this up, eventually some air traffic controller or TSA inspector is going to get sloppy from overwork or worry about their finances, and we will have an incident. Trump "owns" it "proudly". What an ass.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:46:25   #
wooden_ships
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Bills aren't moving because of Ryan (now gone) and McConnell. Democrats have passed a full package of funding bills. Trump says no, McConnell says no. It's a total GOP-owned mess.

Trump conspired and colluded. And collusion is a crime...look it up.

McConnell is trump’s butt boi. McConnell’s wife is Secretary of Transportation. Trump can humiliate her anytime he wants and so McConnell does what trump demands.

Yeah, the swamp is certainly being drained.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:48:06   #
wooden_ships
 
Angmo wrote:
He was never sent a bill to sign. Dems did nothing. They hate you and your country.

You can’t veto something you didn’t get. You can’t collide unless you’re Teddy Kennedy running for President. He begged Russia for help. Lol


You make-up more lies than trump; you’re just a fraud posing as a vet. You admitted that’s not your picture when you were outed. LOL

How’s your 8 year old daughter. That lie was a whopper!

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Jan 20, 2019 16:52:17   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
"Conspired and colluded"? I'll go with it when it is proven, indited, tried, and convicted. Hatred has no legal standing in the American judicial system.
Trump made it clear he will not sign any bill that excludes funds for border security, the dems know this and choose to ignore this and present bills denying any provision for border security. In addition they refuse to even discuss any possible resolution to come to any agreement. All the while complaining that thousands of people are going without a pay check, but when a bill is put forth to help these people they refuse it. So I contend that the democrats are as much at fault for the shutdown as the republicans.
"Conspired and colluded"? I'll go with i... (show quote)

The dems voted along with the Republican near unanimously ona bill trump said he would sign. Unfortunately ‘lil Ann Coulter scared the pants off trump and he is doing nothing out of fear of her.

Some leader... rofl

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Jan 20, 2019 16:54:04   #
wooden_ships
 
“Hater hate truth and fact...”

That explains you hatred then...

Angmo wrote:
Dems are the new communists, rascists, leftist liberal marxists, Nazis, socialists and several other terms the evil lefties call them selves. Unamerican. Haters of freedom and liberty.

Hundreds of millions are dead because of lefties. They show no remorse. Just get indoctrinated into the big lie. “The Big Lie”. Read the book.

Caution. It is full of truth and fact.

Haters hate truth and fact.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:56:05   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
Or anyone who disagrees with them.


Nope; just those who try and lie to us. Reasonable dialogue would be met with reason but you trump supporters admire the liar in chief and seek to make others believe... it’s not going to happen.

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Jan 20, 2019 16:59:06   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
And you think that when a young girl is taken by human traffickers and forced into prostitution that she can leave any time she pleases? She is beaten, drugged, and sometimes murdered if she fails to perform as her captors wish, you con tend this is not slavery? If you do, you are making some pretty shady exceptions, or do you approve of such treatment of women? Would you not support an effort to stop such practice?


Are you seriously suggesting that democrats approve of human trafficking? If so you have completely gone off the rails.

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Jan 20, 2019 17:04:03   #
wooden_ships
 
Angmo wrote:
Hey, the majority of illegal aliens when legal will register Republican. So they can help stop what happened in their socialist countries from polluting ours.

So now, lefties will pay for the wall.


Not Mexico? You bought into that lie as well...

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Jan 20, 2019 17:07:28   #
wooden_ships
 
phcaan wrote:
Oh, my, he hit a little closer to home than is comfortable for you?


And Angamo is a weasel-he has admitted his picture is of someone else in uniform. That’s Mr. Reliable for you, Mr. Honesty.

You’d do well not to associate with such a fraud.

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Jan 20, 2019 17:13:24   #
Angmo
 
wooden_ships wrote:
You make-up more lies than trump; you’re just a fraud posing as a vet. You admitted that’s not your picture when you were outed. LOL

How’s your 8 year old daughter. That lie was a whopper!


Never stated it was my pic, Mr fantasy. Anyone with a brain knows who that real man is.

Beta lefties, not so much. You’ve never served. Chesty is my brother. You are an unworthy wretch in comparison to us real men.

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