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Jan 5, 2019 17:06:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help

Brittany M. Hughes , @RealBrittHughes
October. 3. 2017

Are you a responsible gun owner who appreciates your Second Amendment rights? Have you recently been accused of supporting mass murder by a Twitter troll who thinks semi-automatic weapons can shoot 4,671 rounds in half a second? Are you tired of being called Hitler at family reunions because you're a member of the NRA?
While arguably very little can dissuade the willfully ignorant, here are five very basic, indisputable facts about guns and public safety that might help you out.

1. About 0.003 percent of all U.S. guns are used in homicides each year.
According to the most recent data available from the CDC, there were 11,008 firearm-related homicide deaths in 2014. That’s a rate of about 3.5 people for every 100,000, or roughly 0.003 percent of the total U.S. population.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that one gun was used per homicide. Given that there are an estimated 310 million guns in circulation, this would mean that roughly 0.004 percent of all firearms in the United States were used in a homicide in 2014.
Broken down another way, that’s one gun out of every 28,161. If you adjust for the fact that a single gun is often used in more than one homicide, that number drops even lower.

2. You’re much more likely to fall to your death than get killed by gunfire.
Contrary to hyperbolized left-wing talking points, death by gun homicide isn’t a very common cause of death among Americans. In fact, firearm homicides didn’t even make the list of top 15 causes of death in the United States in 2014. CDC data shows you were about three times more likely to die from a fall than you were of being shot to death in 2014.

3. While gun ownership has doubled, gun homicides have dropped by half.
Additionally, the likelihood of you getting shot to death hasn’t increased with the rise in gun ownership – in fact, quite the opposite. While gun ownership in the United States rose by about 56 percent between 1993 and 2013, the firearm-related homicide rate dropped by half over the same time frame.

4. “Big scary guns” are used to kill people far less than ordinary handguns.
According to the most recent FBI data, 9,616 people were murdered with firearms in 2015. Of these, 6,477 – about two-thirds – were shot to death with a handgun.
Only 252 people (about 0.00008 percent of the entire U.S. population) were murdered with rifles, marking the lowest number in five years. In fact, 1,292 more people were stabbed to death than shot with rifles in 2015.
If you’re one of the tragically inept who erroneously blames an inanimate object rather than the human perpetrator for a crime, then based on that faulty logic, you’d be better off banning handguns than scary-looking AR-15s. Except that you can’t, given a slew of recent court decisions upholding that handgun ownership is a constitutional right under the Second Amendment for law-abiding citizens, and considering that the criminals doing all the killing wouldn't pay attention to your ban, anyway.

5. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the general public since 1986.
Does your anti-gun naysayer in your life want to ban military-grade assault weapons that can mow down a crowd of people with a single pull of the trigger? Good news – we already have!
It was called the Hughes Amendment, and it was added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. The amendment largely outlawed the possession, sale and transfer of machine guns, save for those that were grandfathered in (and now must be registered). These extremely expensive weapons can only be legally obtained from a licensed dealer following an extensive background check and an arduous application process (which does not come with automatic approval).
Handy note: this amendment is also the same one that banned “sawed-off” shotguns.

Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety. What they’re not O.K. with is having their constitutional rights threatened by a liberal mob that's mentality devoid of basic facts.

So now you have some.



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Jan 5, 2019 17:44:26   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help

Brittany M. Hughes , @RealBrittHughes
October. 3. 2017

Are you a responsible gun owner who appreciates your Second Amendment rights? Have you recently been accused of supporting mass murder by a Twitter troll who thinks semi-automatic weapons can shoot 4,671 rounds in half a second? Are you tired of being called Hitler at family reunions because you're a member of the NRA?
While arguably very little can dissuade the willfully ignorant, here are five very basic, indisputable facts about guns and public safety that might help you out.

1. About 0.003 percent of all U.S. guns are used in homicides each year.
According to the most recent data available from the CDC, there were 11,008 firearm-related homicide deaths in 2014. That’s a rate of about 3.5 people for every 100,000, or roughly 0.003 percent of the total U.S. population.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that one gun was used per homicide. Given that there are an estimated 310 million guns in circulation, this would mean that roughly 0.004 percent of all firearms in the United States were used in a homicide in 2014.
Broken down another way, that’s one gun out of every 28,161. If you adjust for the fact that a single gun is often used in more than one homicide, that number drops even lower.

2. You’re much more likely to fall to your death than get killed by gunfire.
Contrary to hyperbolized left-wing talking points, death by gun homicide isn’t a very common cause of death among Americans. In fact, firearm homicides didn’t even make the list of top 15 causes of death in the United States in 2014. CDC data shows you were about three times more likely to die from a fall than you were of being shot to death in 2014.

3. While gun ownership has doubled, gun homicides have dropped by half.
Additionally, the likelihood of you getting shot to death hasn’t increased with the rise in gun ownership – in fact, quite the opposite. While gun ownership in the United States rose by about 56 percent between 1993 and 2013, the firearm-related homicide rate dropped by half over the same time frame.

4. “Big scary guns” are used to kill people far less than ordinary handguns.
According to the most recent FBI data, 9,616 people were murdered with firearms in 2015. Of these, 6,477 – about two-thirds – were shot to death with a handgun.
Only 252 people (about 0.00008 percent of the entire U.S. population) were murdered with rifles, marking the lowest number in five years. In fact, 1,292 more people were stabbed to death than shot with rifles in 2015.
If you’re one of the tragically inept who erroneously blames an inanimate object rather than the human perpetrator for a crime, then based on that faulty logic, you’d be better off banning handguns than scary-looking AR-15s. Except that you can’t, given a slew of recent court decisions upholding that handgun ownership is a constitutional right under the Second Amendment for law-abiding citizens, and considering that the criminals doing all the killing wouldn't pay attention to your ban, anyway.

5. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the general public since 1986.
Does your anti-gun naysayer in your life want to ban military-grade assault weapons that can mow down a crowd of people with a single pull of the trigger? Good news – we already have!
It was called the Hughes Amendment, and it was added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. The amendment largely outlawed the possession, sale and transfer of machine guns, save for those that were grandfathered in (and now must be registered). These extremely expensive weapons can only be legally obtained from a licensed dealer following an extensive background check and an arduous application process (which does not come with automatic approval).
Handy note: this amendment is also the same one that banned “sawed-off” shotguns.

Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety. What they’re not O.K. with is having their constitutional rights threatened by a liberal mob that's mentality devoid of basic facts.

So now you have some.
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help br br Brittany ... (show quote)




"Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety." Archy

Your meme says nomenclature is the most important thing.



"I don't know much about Mexican food but this taco bowl is going to pay for the wall."



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Jan 5, 2019 21:15:58   #
Rose42
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help

Brittany M. Hughes , @RealBrittHughes
October. 3. 2017

Are you a responsible gun owner who appreciates your Second Amendment rights? Have you recently been accused of supporting mass murder by a Twitter troll who thinks semi-automatic weapons can shoot 4,671 rounds in half a second? Are you tired of being called Hitler at family reunions because you're a member of the NRA?
While arguably very little can dissuade the willfully ignorant, here are five very basic, indisputable facts about guns and public safety that might help you out.

1. About 0.003 percent of all U.S. guns are used in homicides each year.
According to the most recent data available from the CDC, there were 11,008 firearm-related homicide deaths in 2014. That’s a rate of about 3.5 people for every 100,000, or roughly 0.003 percent of the total U.S. population.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that one gun was used per homicide. Given that there are an estimated 310 million guns in circulation, this would mean that roughly 0.004 percent of all firearms in the United States were used in a homicide in 2014.
Broken down another way, that’s one gun out of every 28,161. If you adjust for the fact that a single gun is often used in more than one homicide, that number drops even lower.

2. You’re much more likely to fall to your death than get killed by gunfire.
Contrary to hyperbolized left-wing talking points, death by gun homicide isn’t a very common cause of death among Americans. In fact, firearm homicides didn’t even make the list of top 15 causes of death in the United States in 2014. CDC data shows you were about three times more likely to die from a fall than you were of being shot to death in 2014.

3. While gun ownership has doubled, gun homicides have dropped by half.
Additionally, the likelihood of you getting shot to death hasn’t increased with the rise in gun ownership – in fact, quite the opposite. While gun ownership in the United States rose by about 56 percent between 1993 and 2013, the firearm-related homicide rate dropped by half over the same time frame.

4. “Big scary guns” are used to kill people far less than ordinary handguns.
According to the most recent FBI data, 9,616 people were murdered with firearms in 2015. Of these, 6,477 – about two-thirds – were shot to death with a handgun.
Only 252 people (about 0.00008 percent of the entire U.S. population) were murdered with rifles, marking the lowest number in five years. In fact, 1,292 more people were stabbed to death than shot with rifles in 2015.
If you’re one of the tragically inept who erroneously blames an inanimate object rather than the human perpetrator for a crime, then based on that faulty logic, you’d be better off banning handguns than scary-looking AR-15s. Except that you can’t, given a slew of recent court decisions upholding that handgun ownership is a constitutional right under the Second Amendment for law-abiding citizens, and considering that the criminals doing all the killing wouldn't pay attention to your ban, anyway.

5. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the general public since 1986.
Does your anti-gun naysayer in your life want to ban military-grade assault weapons that can mow down a crowd of people with a single pull of the trigger? Good news – we already have!
It was called the Hughes Amendment, and it was added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. The amendment largely outlawed the possession, sale and transfer of machine guns, save for those that were grandfathered in (and now must be registered). These extremely expensive weapons can only be legally obtained from a licensed dealer following an extensive background check and an arduous application process (which does not come with automatic approval).
Handy note: this amendment is also the same one that banned “sawed-off” shotguns.

Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety. What they’re not O.K. with is having their constitutional rights threatened by a liberal mob that's mentality devoid of basic facts.

So now you have some.
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help br br Brittany ... (show quote)


I noticed the revolver ejecting brass before I saw the caption.

Gun control isn't about saving lives - it never was. Its about more control over our lives. Once we give something up we won't get it back.

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Jan 6, 2019 08:01:17   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Gun control is about tyranny and nothing more.

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Jan 6, 2019 08:49:32   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Just what is an assault weapon? A military assault RIFLE can be semi-or 3 tap - or full auto. And is not available to the general public (as has been said above). IN reality an assault WEAPON is a made up term to confuse the public into believing that scary looking guns are full auto. AS a home cook I have a large collection of kitchen knives--From 10" inch cooks knives to small paring knives, as well as a few cleavers. Are they assault knives. Should they be banned as I have cut myself with many of them. They are most certainly deadly, as I keep them razor sharp. I even have a 'hunting and a filleting knife. In fact there is 50 times risk of dying in a car wreck that by a rifle. You are far more at risk of death while driving to the gun store that from a gun. maybe we should ban assault cars.

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Jan 6, 2019 08:51:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
boberic wrote:
Just what is an assault weapon? A military assault RIFLE can be semi-or 3 tap - or full auto. And is not available to the general public (as has been said above). IN reality an assault WEAPON is a made up term to confuse the public into believing that scary looking guns are full auto. AS a home cook I have a large collection of kitchen knives--From 10" inch cooks knives to small paring knives, as well as a few cleavers. Are they assault knives. Should they be banned as I have cut myself with many of them. They are most certainly deadly, as I keep them razor sharp. I even have a 'hunting and a filleting knife. In fact there is 50 times risk of dying in a car wreck that by a rifle. You are far more at risk of death while driving to the gun store that from a gun. maybe we should ban assault cars.
Just what is an assault weapon? A military assault... (show quote)


I believe in GB now your knives ARE considered assault knives and are banned unless you register them and have a license to possess them.

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Jan 6, 2019 11:10:56   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help

Brittany M. Hughes , @RealBrittHughes
October. 3. 2017

Are you a responsible gun owner who appreciates your Second Amendment rights? Have you recently been accused of supporting mass murder by a Twitter troll who thinks semi-automatic weapons can shoot 4,671 rounds in half a second? Are you tired of being called Hitler at family reunions because you're a member of the NRA?
While arguably very little can dissuade the willfully ignorant, here are five very basic, indisputable facts about guns and public safety that might help you out.

1. About 0.003 percent of all U.S. guns are used in homicides each year.
According to the most recent data available from the CDC, there were 11,008 firearm-related homicide deaths in 2014. That’s a rate of about 3.5 people for every 100,000, or roughly 0.003 percent of the total U.S. population.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that one gun was used per homicide. Given that there are an estimated 310 million guns in circulation, this would mean that roughly 0.004 percent of all firearms in the United States were used in a homicide in 2014.
Broken down another way, that’s one gun out of every 28,161. If you adjust for the fact that a single gun is often used in more than one homicide, that number drops even lower.

2. You’re much more likely to fall to your death than get killed by gunfire.
Contrary to hyperbolized left-wing talking points, death by gun homicide isn’t a very common cause of death among Americans. In fact, firearm homicides didn’t even make the list of top 15 causes of death in the United States in 2014. CDC data shows you were about three times more likely to die from a fall than you were of being shot to death in 2014.

3. While gun ownership has doubled, gun homicides have dropped by half.
Additionally, the likelihood of you getting shot to death hasn’t increased with the rise in gun ownership – in fact, quite the opposite. While gun ownership in the United States rose by about 56 percent between 1993 and 2013, the firearm-related homicide rate dropped by half over the same time frame.

4. “Big scary guns” are used to kill people far less than ordinary handguns.
According to the most recent FBI data, 9,616 people were murdered with firearms in 2015. Of these, 6,477 – about two-thirds – were shot to death with a handgun.
Only 252 people (about 0.00008 percent of the entire U.S. population) were murdered with rifles, marking the lowest number in five years. In fact, 1,292 more people were stabbed to death than shot with rifles in 2015.
If you’re one of the tragically inept who erroneously blames an inanimate object rather than the human perpetrator for a crime, then based on that faulty logic, you’d be better off banning handguns than scary-looking AR-15s. Except that you can’t, given a slew of recent court decisions upholding that handgun ownership is a constitutional right under the Second Amendment for law-abiding citizens, and considering that the criminals doing all the killing wouldn't pay attention to your ban, anyway.

5. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the general public since 1986.
Does your anti-gun naysayer in your life want to ban military-grade assault weapons that can mow down a crowd of people with a single pull of the trigger? Good news – we already have!
It was called the Hughes Amendment, and it was added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. The amendment largely outlawed the possession, sale and transfer of machine guns, save for those that were grandfathered in (and now must be registered). These extremely expensive weapons can only be legally obtained from a licensed dealer following an extensive background check and an arduous application process (which does not come with automatic approval).
Handy note: this amendment is also the same one that banned “sawed-off” shotguns.

Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety. What they’re not O.K. with is having their constitutional rights threatened by a liberal mob that's mentality devoid of basic facts.

So now you have some.
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help br br Brittany ... (show quote)


Why do democrats have a desire to take away other people’s rights?

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Jan 6, 2019 11:17:19   #
kd7eir Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help

Brittany M. Hughes , @RealBrittHughes
October. 3. 2017

Are you a responsible gun owner who appreciates your Second Amendment rights? Have you recently been accused of supporting mass murder by a Twitter troll who thinks semi-automatic weapons can shoot 4,671 rounds in half a second? Are you tired of being called Hitler at family reunions because you're a member of the NRA?
While arguably very little can dissuade the willfully ignorant, here are five very basic, indisputable facts about guns and public safety that might help you out.

1. About 0.003 percent of all U.S. guns are used in homicides each year.
According to the most recent data available from the CDC, there were 11,008 firearm-related homicide deaths in 2014. That’s a rate of about 3.5 people for every 100,000, or roughly 0.003 percent of the total U.S. population.
For the sake of argument, let’s assume that one gun was used per homicide. Given that there are an estimated 310 million guns in circulation, this would mean that roughly 0.004 percent of all firearms in the United States were used in a homicide in 2014.
Broken down another way, that’s one gun out of every 28,161. If you adjust for the fact that a single gun is often used in more than one homicide, that number drops even lower.

2. You’re much more likely to fall to your death than get killed by gunfire.
Contrary to hyperbolized left-wing talking points, death by gun homicide isn’t a very common cause of death among Americans. In fact, firearm homicides didn’t even make the list of top 15 causes of death in the United States in 2014. CDC data shows you were about three times more likely to die from a fall than you were of being shot to death in 2014.

3. While gun ownership has doubled, gun homicides have dropped by half.
Additionally, the likelihood of you getting shot to death hasn’t increased with the rise in gun ownership – in fact, quite the opposite. While gun ownership in the United States rose by about 56 percent between 1993 and 2013, the firearm-related homicide rate dropped by half over the same time frame.

4. “Big scary guns” are used to kill people far less than ordinary handguns.
According to the most recent FBI data, 9,616 people were murdered with firearms in 2015. Of these, 6,477 – about two-thirds – were shot to death with a handgun.
Only 252 people (about 0.00008 percent of the entire U.S. population) were murdered with rifles, marking the lowest number in five years. In fact, 1,292 more people were stabbed to death than shot with rifles in 2015.
If you’re one of the tragically inept who erroneously blames an inanimate object rather than the human perpetrator for a crime, then based on that faulty logic, you’d be better off banning handguns than scary-looking AR-15s. Except that you can’t, given a slew of recent court decisions upholding that handgun ownership is a constitutional right under the Second Amendment for law-abiding citizens, and considering that the criminals doing all the killing wouldn't pay attention to your ban, anyway.

5. Fully automatic weapons have been illegal to the general public since 1986.
Does your anti-gun naysayer in your life want to ban military-grade assault weapons that can mow down a crowd of people with a single pull of the trigger? Good news – we already have!
It was called the Hughes Amendment, and it was added to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. The amendment largely outlawed the possession, sale and transfer of machine guns, save for those that were grandfathered in (and now must be registered). These extremely expensive weapons can only be legally obtained from a licensed dealer following an extensive background check and an arduous application process (which does not come with automatic approval).
Handy note: this amendment is also the same one that banned “sawed-off” shotguns.

Contrary to a common left-wing allegation, most knowledgeable gun owners are more than happy to engage in a discussion about gun ownership and its impact on public safety. What they’re not O.K. with is having their constitutional rights threatened by a liberal mob that's mentality devoid of basic facts.

So now you have some.
Here Are Five Basic Facts to Help br br Brittany ... (show quote)


I'll only destroy PART of your lying bullshit in order to let others help destroy you. BTW - Get some CURRENT DATA everything you posted is ancient! I understand that you had to cherry-pick from data as old as 19 YEARS to facilitate your LIE, but that is still no excuse.

The CDC’s Wonder database shows that in 2017, 39,773 people in the US lost their lives at the point of a gun. When adjusted for age fluctuations, that represents a total of 12 deaths per 100,000 people – up from 10.1 in 2010 and the highest rate since 1996.

In 2017 403 people were killed with rifles.

The Hughes Amendment did NOT prohibit the ownership of fully automatic weapons. It prohibited owning those manufactured after May 19, 1986.

When you undoubtedly make you ad hominem attack because you got NOTHING to back up your LIES, keep in mind that I've had my Federal Firearms License (FFL) since 1985 - that means I've been a federally licensed firearms dealer/manufacturer/gunsmith for the 33 years - hardly some "anti-gun liberal!

What I AM anti about is LIARS!

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Jan 6, 2019 11:46:03   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
kd7eir wrote:
I'll only destroy PART of your lying bullshit in order to let others help destroy you. BTW - Get some CURRENT DATA everything you posted is ancient! I understand that you had to cherry-pick from data as old as 19 YEARS to facilitate your LIE, but that is still no excuse.

The CDC’s Wonder database shows that in 2017, 39,773 people in the US lost their lives at the point of a gun. When adjusted for age fluctuations, that represents a total of 12 deaths per 100,000 people – up from 10.1 in 2010 and the highest rate since 1996.

In 2017 403 people were killed with rifles.

The Hughes Amendment did NOT prohibit the ownership of fully automatic weapons. It prohibited owning those manufactured after May 19, 1986.

When you undoubtedly make you ad hominem attack because you got NOTHING to back up your LIES, keep in mind that I've had my Federal Firearms License (FFL) since 1985 - that means I've been a federally licensed firearms dealer/manufacturer/gunsmith for the 33 years - hardly some "anti-gun liberal!

What I AM anti about is LIARS!
I'll only destroy PART of your lying bullshit in o... (show quote)


Why are you paying attention to this drivel. It is just a poorly disguised attempt to deflect from the Russian stooge Trump. Easier to discuss gun control than defend this Putin puppet.

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Jan 6, 2019 11:53:34   #
Angmo
 
yhtomit wrote:
Why do democrats have a desire to take away other people’s rights?


To Control every aspect of your life. So they gotta start with guns. They know guns are the constitutions defense of tyranny.

Dems want tyranny.

Dems always lie about their actual goals. If they told the truth about themselves, no one would vote for them.

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Jan 6, 2019 13:55:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
yhtomit wrote:
Why do democrats have a desire to take away other people’s rights?


Power over others lives.

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Jan 6, 2019 14:28:33   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Trump Is Radioactive So Many Republicans Want Nothing to Do With Him

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Jan 6, 2019 15:30:00   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
kd7eir wrote:
I'll only destroy PART of your lying bullshit in order to let others help destroy you. BTW - Get some CURRENT DATA everything you posted is ancient! I understand that you had to cherry-pick from data as old as 19 YEARS to facilitate your LIE, but that is still no excuse.

The CDC’s Wonder database shows that in 2017, 39,773 people in the US lost their lives at the point of a gun. When adjusted for age fluctuations, that represents a total of 12 deaths per 100,000 people – up from 10.1 in 2010 and the highest rate since 1996.

In 2017 403 people were killed with rifles.

The Hughes Amendment did NOT prohibit the ownership of fully automatic weapons. It prohibited owning those manufactured after May 19, 1986.

When you undoubtedly make you ad hominem attack because you got NOTHING to back up your LIES, keep in mind that I've had my Federal Firearms License (FFL) since 1985 - that means I've been a federally licensed firearms dealer/manufacturer/gunsmith for the 33 years - hardly some "anti-gun liberal!

What I AM anti about is LIARS!
I'll only destroy PART of your lying bullshit in o... (show quote)


He was talking about RIFLES not handguns. More people are killed by knives, blunt objects, hands or fists than rifles or long guns of any type, according to recent FBI stats

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Jan 6, 2019 15:49:27   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
In CA anything in your hand lifted above your shoulder is considered a deadly weapon - yes anything-
boberic wrote:
He was talking about RIFLES not handguns. More people are killed by knives, blunt objects, hands or fists than rifles or long guns of any type, according to recent FBI stats

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Jan 6, 2019 19:28:56   #
Angmo
 
Harvey wrote:
In CA anything in your hand lifted above your shoulder is considered a deadly weapon - yes anything-


Leftie policies prove this:



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