Chris T wrote:
Kodachrome is history, now - as with the reorganization - there is no more in-house processing facility for Kodachrome. But, Kodak Alaris has re-introduced the entire Ektachrome line (I believe.)
Not the entire Ektachrome line. Just Ektachrome Professional 100 in 35mm 36 exposure rolls. They were also going to reintroduce it in Super 8 and 16mm but I cannot confirm that. B&H lists the super 8 only and that is marked back ordered. The 35mm is relatively available. Kind of like the early days of the Nikon D850.
I always preferred Kodachrome. It was a much warmer film.
Petesfixit wrote:
In the early 80s, I couldn't afford to shoot much Colour, but from what I remember ektachrome tended toward blue, fujichrome towards green and yellow, Kodachrome more towards red. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Personally I always liked the ektachrome the way it looked but apparently I am alone on this?
Agfachrome and color both had a slight reddish tint. Especially flattering for blonde and redhead subjects who were not as nicely rendered by Kodak GOLD, or the Fuji emulsions favoring the olive tinted skin tones. Also good for Western landscapes. Amazing them film daze: A different Picture style in each box!
Those synchronized multi projector shows were works of engenuity and artful timing and image mixing. Add music and you've got 'em hypnotized. And if you're the one contracting such a show, a BLOWN budget.
C
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
drmike99 wrote:
Not the entire Ektachrome line. Just Ektachrome Professional 100 in 35mm 36 exposure rolls. They were also going to reintroduce it in Super 8 and 16mm but I cannot confirm that. B&H lists the super 8 only and that is marked back ordered. The 35mm is relatively available. Kind of like the early days of the Nikon D850.
Oh, I see … so, no more "Hi-Speed" Ektachrome 160 then?
You know, it seems funny saying that, doesn't it? … In the current digital era - where "high speed" is more reflective of a dig cam reaching ISO 51200 (or above) …
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Photocraig wrote:
Agfachrome and color both had a slight reddish tint. Especially flattering for blonde and redhead subjects who were not as nicely rendered by Kodak GOLD, or the Fuji emulsions favoring the olive tinted skin tones. Also good for Western landscapes. Amazing them film daze: A different Picture style in each box!
Those synchronized multi projector shows were works of engenuity and artful timing and image mixing. Add music and you've got 'em hypnotized. And if you're the one contracting such a show, a BLOWN budget.
C
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Fujifilm had olive-tinted skin tones, did it, Craig? … Well, made in Japan - so, perhaps it was a way of offsetting the supposed "yellow" skin tones. Actually, I've never found that. The Japanese, to me - always come across as whiter than white. So, Fuji favoring olive skin tones - as a way of "neutralizing" all skin types - makes some sense, I suppose.
The warmth (read - overly red) of Agfachrome - made sense, if you were primarily a portrait shooter, but it was a bit upsetting when shooting landscapes. Personally, I prefer a more bluish cast (vis a vis Ektachrome) as most of my pics ARE landscapes … and most (not all) feature large expanses of both sky and water - which, of course - are blue, to begin with …
Interesting. I got out some old slides a year or so ago, shot in the seventies, projected once or twice and dark stored since.. I used a variety of film, depending on need and on price, and I was surprised with I saw. The ones that faded the most were (drum roll) Kodachromes! Ektachromes not so much. Don't know why, but it was no problem because I rarely used Kodachrome as it always came out 30 points too magenta.
I did shoot a lot of landscapes with Agfa. Loved the wonderful treatment of grays and browns in the forest, with out too much subduing of the green. Velvia was always too green for me,
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Bill P wrote:
Interesting. I got out some old slides a year or so ago, shot in the seventies, projected once or twice and dark stored since.. I used a variety of film, depending on need and on price, and I was surprised with I saw. The ones that faded the most were (drum roll) Kodachromes! Ektachromes not so much. Don't know why, but it was no problem because I rarely used Kodachrome as it always came out 30 points too magenta.
I did shoot a lot of landscapes with Agfa. Loved the wonderful treatment of grays and browns in the forest, with out too much subduing of the green. Velvia was always too green for me,
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Were the Kodachromes processed in Rochester, or somewhere else, Bill?
Hi, Jason - 40 years ago I was a 30-something scuba diver who owned a Nikonos film camera with one strobe. Back in those days what was available from Kodak was Kodachrome (64 ASA), Ektachrome (200 ASA), and one other, (400 ASA). Kodachrome rendered the best color, but at 64 ASA it was tough to get a fully exposed shot particularly if more than a few feet away. Ektachrome was better to get an exposed image, but it tended to make things even more blue. The 400 was the best for image, but too grainy.
Since film technology has changed greatly in 40 years, but as I recall Ektachrome tended to make blues of water at depth even bluer.
Wish I still had the opportunity for clear water scuba. Good luck.
Photocraig wrote:
Agfachrome and color both had a slight reddish tint. Especially flattering for blonde and redhead subjects who were not as nicely rendered by Kodak GOLD, or the Fuji emulsions favoring the olive tinted skin tones. Also good for Western landscapes. Amazing them film daze: A different Picture style in each box!
Those synchronized multi projector shows were works of engenuity and artful timing and image mixing. Add music and you've got 'em hypnotized. And if you're the one contracting such a show, a BLOWN budget.
C
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We were an in-house production group. Yes, we did our best to entrance, hypnotize, brainwash, and otherwise move people to an emotional reaction. Multi-image was so good at that, the CIA used it.
Some of our shows cost $20,000 to $30,000 to produce. Those generally had an intangible payout, but I can tell you, our president and sales VP thought it was huge. They brought in a lot of new business by having us present our shows to visiting prospects who were on the fence. We could give someone an overview of the company and its products and services and depth of expertise in about 12 minutes, and not leave anything out. The president would "ask for the order" right after the visitors saw the show.
These days, 4K video can be used to do essentially the same thing. It's a lot easier to produce!
JWCoop wrote:
Hi, Jason - 40 years ago I was a 30-something scuba diver who owned a Nikonos film camera with one strobe. Back in those days what was available from Kodak was Kodachrome (64 ASA), Ektachrome (200 ASA), and one other, (400 ASA). Kodachrome rendered the best color, but at 64 ASA it was tough to get a fully exposed shot particularly if more than a few feet away. Ektachrome was better to get an exposed image, but it tended to make things even more blue. The 400 was the best for image, but too grainy.
Since film technology has changed greatly in 40 years, but as I recall Ektachrome tended to make blues of water at depth even bluer.
Wish I still had the opportunity for clear water scuba. Good luck.
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Hello JWCoop,
Thank you for the feedback on Ecktachrome.
I guess I got mixed up on why it was recommended for subsea use. I originally thought it was to reduce the blue hue, but I now know that's not the case. Perhaps in those days we wanted a blue hue???
Jason
kdogg
Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV
Used Ektachrome back in the day because I could develop and print (Cibachrome) in my darkroom. Started using Kodachrome a little later on but still preferred Ektachrome.
I shot mountains of Ektachome during the first 25 years of my advertising photography career. It does indeed have a bias towards blue. I would guess that you would want to add an 81B or C filter for under water photography.
Yes, Alaris has re-introduced Ektachrome. I bought five rolls last October and recently shot one. I just sent it out for processing and am eagerly awaiting the results. It is great to have another choice besides Fuji, since I am sure Ektachrome has a somewhat different palette.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
adm wrote:
Yes, Alaris has re-introduced Ektachrome. I bought five rolls last October and recently shot one. I just sent it out for processing and am eagerly awaiting the results. It is great to have another choice besides Fuji, since I am sure Ektachrome has a somewhat different palette.
Agfa's still around, is it not?
I believe that E-6 slide film under the Agfa name is no longer available. They were selling repackaged Fuji Provia under the Agfa name for a while but my understanding is that Fuji is no longer willing to sell the film to Agfa because they do not want anyone underselling them. The film was definitely repackaged Fuji, since the Fuji name was on the film after processing and the results were identical to Fuji Provia. I was able to buy some of this film last year real cheap as a close-out and still have a few rolls left.
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