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Dec 28, 2018 20:34:02   #
jcboy3
 
incognito wrote:
10% lie yes 10 yr not a lie.I think you will end up with egg on your face about Cohen being in Prague in 2016. It comes from a friend of a friend of my third cousin twice removed. It seems like there is no corroborating proof of that.


Everything he said was a lie.

Trump actually requested 2.1%; Congress overrode that to 2.4%.

Pay raises in 2008, 2009, and 2010 were higher.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/dec/27/donald-trump/trump-military-pay-increases-wrong-size-timing/

Trump can't open his mouth without lies spewing forth.

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Dec 29, 2018 02:13:50   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Are you still misrepresenting that? Why won’t you address your “kryptnite” reference... how do you defend the 10% and 10 year lie?

PS - have you been reading about Cohen’s meeting in Prague in 2016. Funny how that little point was included in the Steele Dossier.

Sheesh


I’m not defending any lie.

I’m pointing out that this is spoon fed outrage while the left gives a pass to dishonesty that should cause actual outrage.

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Dec 29, 2018 05:51:04   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
Actually not. go get official inflation numbers. you of course will say they do no reflect reality, but i bet the wage increases in public life for similar jobs is about the same

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Dec 29, 2018 06:24:35   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Social Security and SSI got 2.8% and Trump is boasting about the big raise of 2.6% he got for the military. How do his gullible supporters just accept the lies and deceptions?

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Dec 29, 2018 06:32:47   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Military pay raises in the recent past:

http://www.federalpay.org/military/raises

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Dec 29, 2018 06:41:25   #
wooden_ships
 
incognito wrote:
10% lie yes 10 yr not a lie.I think you will end up with egg on your face about Cohen being in Prague in 2016. It comes from a friend of a friend of my third cousin twice removed. It seems like there is no corroborating proof of that.


10 year is clear without any ability of trump supporters to say otherwise. That would be like saying he never said I will be proud to shut down the government (two weeks ago in the Oval Office of all places).

You and your co-believers can defend Trump right up until the end - much like the band on the Titanic continued to play as they sank into the sea. Trump's presidency is finished, his legacy is failure and worse. The faces with eggs are those of trump supporters who aimed poorly and hit themselves.

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Dec 29, 2018 06:54:39   #
wooden_ships
 
LWW wrote:
I’m not defending any lie.

I’m pointing out that this is spoon fed outrage while the left gives a pass to dishonesty that should cause actual outrage.


The clearest dishonesty is that embodied by trump and enabled by his supporters. Weeks ago the WP counted trump lies and misrepresentation in excess of 7,000. No honest American can condone such atrocious behavior in a person elected to the Presidency. Continued deflections against trump's lying nature and the attempts to throw the problems back onto the liberals is absurd. This whole board in NOT about "my dog is better than your dog", it is about genuine concern for the state of the union. Americans, regardless of party affiliation should be very concerned about what is happening to our democracy. Stop wasting time defending his lies, acknowledge them so we can get Congress to move off the dime. Right now Congressional Republicans are afraid of a vocal minority and are pandering to trump and his base. Such cowardice in Congress! If you continue to turn a blind eye to trump and be his defender, then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.


Read the farewell speeches given yesterday by several Senators including Hatch, Flake et al. If afterwards you remain unconvinced of the danger trump poses then I question where your loyalties truly are.

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Dec 29, 2018 07:56:08   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump boasted he got the troops a 10% raise after they went a decade without a raise. The raise was 2.6% and the troops have received pay increases in each of the past ten years.

So trump supporters, is this just more “fake news” or don’t you care your president is lying guttersnipe?


It was 2.8%.

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Dec 29, 2018 10:18:52   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
The president has nothing to do with the pay raise! Since 2017, it has been equal to ECI, and Trump proposed a raise equal to ECI again in 2019 at 2.6 percent, which the president’s fiscal 2019 budget described as “modest.”

“This pay raise is equal to the increase in the Employment Cost Index (ECI) for wages and salaries, for private industry workers as called for in law, and it is the highest military pay raise in 9 years,” the budget says.

That’s what the president meant to say — “the highest military pay raise in 9 years” — without mentioning, as his budget does, that it is equal to the amount “called for in law.”

In short, you too are a liar!


incognito wrote:
you left out that it was the highest percentage increase in the last nine or ten years.

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Dec 29, 2018 10:21:24   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
LIAR

https://www.federalpay.org/military/raises



LWW wrote:
And that prior years were below inflation ... but truth is Kryptonite to leftists.

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Dec 29, 2018 10:22:22   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
YAWN

JUST ANOTHER TRUMP LIE!


Texcaster wrote:
10% was it?

"They had plenty of people that came up, they said, 'You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3%, we could make it 2%, we could make it 4%,'" Trump told the troops about the latest pay raise. "I said, 'No. Make it 10%. Make it more than 10%.'"
'Cause it's been a long time, it's been more than 10 years. Been more than 10 years, that's a long time," Trump said, repeating the false claim.

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Dec 29, 2018 12:27:49   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump boasted he got the troops a 10% raise after they went a decade without a raise. The raise was 2.6% and the troops have received pay increases in each of the past ten years.

So trump supporters, is this just more “fake news” or don’t you care your president is lying guttersnipe?


Democrats think it’s a strong character trait to lie.
Why are you not worshipping President Donald Trump?
You worship democrat liars.

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Dec 29, 2018 14:19:35   #
wooden_ships
 
yhtomit wrote:
Democrats think it’s a strong character trait to lie.
Why are you not worshipping President Donald Trump?
You worship democrat liars.


By that definition you must be a closet democrat instead of just another trump loving lemming.

Pretty dumb comment of yours wouldn’t you say?

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Dec 29, 2018 14:45:47   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
wooden_ships wrote:
By that definition you must be a closet democrat instead of just another trump loving lemming.

Pretty dumb comment of yours wouldn’t you say?


Infantile brain farts pass for sound reasoning with these people these days. I blame the leadership and a general dumbing down of society to a cartoon level of 'good guys and bad guys'.

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Dec 29, 2018 15:22:25   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trump boasted he got the troops a 10% raise after they went a decade without a raise. The raise was 2.6% and the troops have received pay increases in each of the past ten years.

So trump supporters, is this just more “fake news” or don’t you care your president is lying guttersnipe?



Well, to nit pick........

The past years raises were less than inflation, so it was not an economic raise. It was the single largest raise in a long time (about ten years.....familiar number?) and above inflation.

If it was anyone but Trump the press, and you, would have heard the entire presentation and figured out he moshed the 10 years with the 10%.

Hell, if Obama had done it both of you would have compared it to the multiplying of the biblical fish!

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