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Does Shooting video with a DSLR wear out the shutter?
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Dec 22, 2018 22:27:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
larryepage wrote:
Several have mentioned poor audio as a detriment to recording video. I would agree that using the internal microphone(s) is not optimal (it picks up camera operating noises great). But the D300s, D810, and D850 all have capability via the menu to turn off the AGC and manually set audio levels. The D810 and D850 can connect external microphones or even a mixer. So with some simple planning and care, there is no reason for audio to be a problem. I'd have to believe that at least some other cameras would have to have similar capabilities.
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Certain Sony and Panasonic mirrorless cameras do a GREAT job with both video and audio. There is a special audio interface for the GH5 that has limiters and level controls and balanced line XLR inputs. Many photographers feed it the pass-through output from a digital recorder, so they have two different level tracks to use.

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Dec 22, 2018 22:32:32   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
fotoman150 wrote:
Well there’s the Manual and then there’s boots on the ground. I wanted a different perspective and a comment as to what happens to the camera when it’s used for video. There are things that the manual doesn’t explain fully.

Was the answer to your question not in the owners manual?

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Dec 22, 2018 23:24:16   #
NikonRocks Loc: Sydney
 
I use my Nikon D7200 extensively for videography. To circumvent the time limitations imposed by the firmware, I stream the output in DX mode at a sensor scan rate of 50FPS via the camera's HDMI connector to an ATOMOS Ninja 2 recorder. FWIW, the Ninja 2 is now obsolete but works a treat for my needs. I also remove both SD cards just to ensure I will be recording to external devices. The recorder is setup to encode the video stream in ProRes LT (my preference) and the data is saved onto a 240GB SSD having sufficient write speed to take the data streaming into it. The HDMI input to the recorder includes 2 channel audio as well as the video pumped out by the camera's EXPEED 4 processor. The sound comes from the output of a SARAMONIC SR-PAX-2 2 channel mixer which is fed into the camera's 2 channel audio input. I use high quality microphones as input to the mixer. This is reflected in the quality of the sound that accompanies the video. The input sound level of the camera is set at 40% which naturally infers that auto gain is disabled. In fact all camera settings are set to manual so I have complete control over all inputs and outputs including lens focusing.

I have recorded sessions lasting 1.5 hours with all equipment running off local batteries without having any equipment shut down because of temperature limitations. The environment is indoors where the temperature rarely exceeds 28 degrees Celcius. In general, what is comfortable for me is comfortable for my equipment.

The D7200 was originally bought as a replacement for an earlier Nikon DX model as photography was all I had in mind at the time. Reading 3rd party literature on the capabilities of this camera piqued my interest in this other dimension of photography that the camera could produce and I was hooked from then on. Best of luck with your own exploration of how to capture and present the world around us.

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Dec 23, 2018 01:03:09   #
fotoman150
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Was the answer to your question not in the owners manual?


No it didn’t say whether the shutter would be adversely effected or if the shutter count would increase with each frame.

After looking through the manual again I can’t find the cautionary statements. I know they are there somewhere.

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Dec 23, 2018 09:55:23   #
1963mca
 
I've actually only used my D90 once for video. My wife is a fan of Diana Gabaldon's Outlander books so we attended the 2013 Fergus Scottish Games in Ontario since Diana was the main speaker. This was the first (and only) time I ever used video on the D90. I found there is a 2GB limit on the record time for the video format I was using, which gave me a roughly 20 minute record time. At the end of the 20 minutes, the recording stopped, but I was immediately able to restart recording for another 20 minutes, as it just started writing a new filename of 2GB. Did this several more times as the entire seminar was a little over an hour long, and I only lost a few seconds between the 20 minute sequences. Did it hurt the camera? Not that I can tell, bought the camera in 2008 and still using it today with no problems. The camera did get a little warm during the hour long shoot, but the manual said it would get warm and not to worry.

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Dec 23, 2018 13:05:06   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
Cumulative time includes all the time the camera is on and in live mode, not just while recording video.


So, what's the problem? Shut the camera off and let it cool down. Besides 20 minutes of video is quite a bit, unless you're doing a commercial type shoot. Then, yes, I'd recommend a dedicated video camera.

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Dec 23, 2018 14:31:31   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
fotoman150 wrote:
My initial google search turned up differing opinions. The consensus seems to be that the shutter is stuck open and the frames taken are electronic so the sensor may heat up but the shutter count will only go up by one actuation each time you put the camera in video mode.

This has not stopped people from advertising DSLRs for sale by saying they have not been used extensively for video, as if this increases the value.

My Canon 5D Mark II manual says not to use it for video for long periods.

I did a search for this on UHH but did not come up with anything valid.

Your thoughts?
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You are correct. The mechanical shutter itself gets little use during video.... it just opens and closes once per video clip.

However, shooting video puts a lot of time on electronic components (far more than the brief instant they're active during most still photos).

The sensor, A/D converter, the electronics that hold the mirror up and the shutter open.... pretty much everything other than the shutter... run continuously during video (and Live View, for that matter).

So a camera that's been used a lot for video may have very few "clicks" on it... i.e., a very low shutter count... but actually have a lot of use on various electronic components and be near the end of its life.

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Dec 23, 2018 19:00:33   #
fotoman150
 
amfoto1 wrote:
You are correct. The mechanical shutter itself gets little use during video.... it just opens and closes once per video clip.

However, shooting video puts a lot of time on electronic components (far more than the brief instant they're active during most still photos).

The sensor, A/D converter, the electronics that hold the mirror up and the shutter open.... pretty much everything other than the shutter... run continuously during video (and Live View, for that matter).

So a camera that's been used a lot for video may have very few "clicks" on it... i.e., a very low shutter count... but actually have a lot of use on various electronic components and be near the end of its life.
You are correct. The mechanical shutter itself get... (show quote)


Yeah I think I’ll use a dedicated videocam and save my DSLR.

I actually tried to use it for video and shit some footage of my cat. It was very clunky. Not easy to switch between stills and video. I hoped I could just press a button and start recording. I had to go through quite a bit of settings in the menu system.

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Dec 24, 2018 00:51:43   #
Beachbum14
 
I Just bought a used cannon rebel T5i with a 18-55 lens my first camera hope its a good stater camera any thoughts ?

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Dec 24, 2018 00:53:13   #
fotoman150
 
fotoman150 wrote:
Yeah I think I’ll use a dedicated videocam and save my DSLR.

I actually tried to use it for video and shit some footage of my cat. It was very clunky. Not easy to switch between stills and video. I hoped I could just press a button and start recording. I had to go through quite a bit of settings in the menu system.


I just saw where I spelled shoot wrong. It appears I shit videotape. LOL

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Dec 24, 2018 01:05:44   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I just saw where I spelled shoot wrong. It appears I shit videotape. LOL


That could have hurt!

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Dec 24, 2018 01:07:18   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Beachbum14 wrote:
I Just bought a used cannon rebel T5i with a 18-55 lens my first camera hope its a good stater camera any thoughts ?


Great beginner camera.
(Especially since you already bought it)
But this thread is about the shutter wear on DSLR cameras when used for video.
Start a new topic!
Welcome!

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Dec 25, 2018 12:23:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SteveR wrote:
So, what's the problem? Shut the camera off and let it cool down. Besides 20 minutes of video is quite a bit, unless you're doing a commercial type shoot. Then, yes, I'd recommend a dedicated video camera.


Many folks like me want one camera system to do it all — stills and video. I do roughly equal amounts of each.

Interviews and documentary footage, lectures, and corporate presentations may exceed 30 minutes, easily.

I’ve used eight different video cameras or camcorders over the years. I hated their form factors.

First the dSLR, and now mirrorless hybrid cameras, are a dream come true — one menu to learn, one set of lenses to buy, one bag to carry for everything... and a form factor that feels right to me.

Oh, and switching modes? On the Lumix GH4, there’s a movie mode on the mode dial. Once you configure the camera menus for the kind of video you need for a project, one move of the mode dial switches from stills to video.

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Dec 25, 2018 13:21:53   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
The Nikon D5 is another example... It records 4K UHD video, but shuts off in under five minutes to cool down.

do you know the same thing about the D500 ?? thank you.

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