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Dec 21, 2018 23:27:33   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Innershield1 wrote:
That's an option I didn't consider. I have the monthly plan on my home Mac which I can access from anywhere with internet service. I was curious just how much GBs do I need to accomplish that.


If you are using the subscription version of Lightroom / Photoshop, you only need the bandwidth when you download the program itself, and any updates. All processing is done locally. The full Classic CC Lightroom suite is about 2 gigs, Photoshop an additional 2.2 gigs. Every time you download an update, it should be a little less than these amounts. On average, an update is released each month for Lightroom, less frequently for PS, but you don't need to download each one if you don't want to.

Processing photos uses no bandwidth at all, just your computer's memory and storage space.

Andy

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Dec 22, 2018 06:47:09   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Innershield1 wrote:
I am in a area where internet is very expensive. I have Photoshop and would like to know how many GBs do I need to do PP. No video, stills only. Rodeo, landscape, social photos. Have D810 and others, like to shoot RAW if it doesn't affect amount of GBs. Thanks




Agree with others. Once you have the application, the Internet is not involved in your
post processing. It only applies when you want to upload or download your files to
another Web location (like cloud backup). If you don't know what cloud backup is, Google it. >Alan

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Dec 22, 2018 07:28:45   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Innershield1 wrote:
Because I have access to PS on a monthly basis, are you saying I can download the program w/o further cost??


No, just pay the monthly cost of $10

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Dec 22, 2018 07:33:11   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Innershield1 wrote:
I am in a area where internet is very expensive. I have Photoshop and would like to know how many GBs do I need to do PP. No video, stills only. Rodeo, landscape, social photos. Have D810 and others, like to shoot RAW if it doesn't affect amount of GBs. Thanks



To add onto TriX's excellent response, is your question about bandwidth or storage requirements? Which version of software are you using?

Gigabyte (GB) is a term used for storage, gigabit (Gb) is a term often used for bandwidth and/or throughput. You may have a modem or router which offers 1 gigabit/sec speed (125 megabytes per second) when using a wired connection between the computer and the router, but your internet service may only provide a 50 megabit/sec (6.25 megabyte/sec) - or less - connection.

What do you have now?

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Dec 22, 2018 07:35:11   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Innershield1 wrote:
I am in a area where internet is very expensive. I have Photoshop and would like to know how many GBs do I need to do PP. No video, stills only. Rodeo, landscape, social photos. Have D810 and others, like to shoot RAW if it doesn't affect amount of GBs. Thanks


You only need the internet once a month to verify the license (CC version) or when you need cloud storage/online clipart....otherwise for local storage no internet is needed ... the s/w is installed locally not in the cloud.

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Dec 22, 2018 07:35:14   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Innershield1 wrote:
I am in a area where internet is very expensive. I have Photoshop and would like to know how many GBs do I need to do PP. No video, stills only. Rodeo, landscape, social photos. Have D810 and others, like to shoot RAW if it doesn't affect amount of GBs. Thanks


It depends.. once the programs are downloaded, all Adobe needs is to verify your login. Actually, according to Adobe, if you successfully login once, the login is (theoretically) good for 30 days. The idea is that you can login with a laptop or whatever and then process in the boonies. Now, this does not include sending photos up to the cloud. I almost never use the "cloud" part of Lightroom, except to put processed photos where a customer might preview them. As for processing in the field, you can do anything on the Adobe Cloud Apps that you can do at home, as long as you have logged in that once in 30 days. This is according to Adobe... in practicality, I haven't tried to see how long. I generally have I-net access at cabins, hotels, and motels when I travel so it is irrelevant to me.

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Dec 22, 2018 07:47:55   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
You also may want to look at Paint.net, another free program, and, other than the internet download, there is no need for the internet in using it.

Dik

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Dec 22, 2018 08:02:19   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yep.

But a connection to the Internet becomes necessary when Adobe releases improvements and upgrades to its software.
jerryc41 wrote:
Don't you just download the program once and then process on you own at-home computer? If so, the Internet is irrelevant once you have the program.

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Dec 22, 2018 08:11:11   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
anotherview wrote:
Yep.

But a connection to the Internet becomes necessary when Adobe releases improvements and upgrades to its software.


Same with Paint.net

Dik

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Dec 22, 2018 08:16:58   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
With the monthly service, you download LR Classic and turn off the cloud syncing in LR CC. Then your only need for the internet is for updates.

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Dec 22, 2018 08:47:15   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mizzee wrote:
With the monthly service, you download LR Classic and turn off the cloud syncing in LR CC. Then your only need for the internet is for updates.


Also, if you are using a laptop, you may be able to do your updates, etc. at a drive-in or other store that that provides free wi-fi..

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Dec 22, 2018 10:10:07   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
If you use Affinity Photo which costs $50 which you will OWN and not SUBSCRIBE to, you won't need to concern yourself about having internet access whatsoever. I've used PhotoShop for well over 20+ years at work and I find Affinity Photo to be every bit as feature rich in all aspects. Visit some of the Affinity Photo tutorials and reviews on YouTube to see for yourself.

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Dec 22, 2018 10:51:25   #
pappleg
 
Agree that internet speed affects only your downloads for program upgrades in the subscription model. The fact that you are using a 36mp D810 and especially if you shoot Raw will give you files in the 30-50mb range as previously noted. I just upgraded from a 21" iMac
with 8gb of ram to a new 27" iMac with 40gb of ram. Since I use a 45mp camera my old setup was amazingly slow-doing a three Raw image HDR took about 45 minutes. I have not yet done an HDR on my new mac but loading images is now blazingly fast. Consensus for working at reasonable speeds is a machine with at least 32gb of ram to properly drive LR/PS. Pat


TriX wrote:
Sounds like a couple of different questions here and some confusion. First, as has been said, you only need to access the internet once a month or so to validate the license if you’re storing your photos locally.

If you chose to store your photos in “the cloud”, then you need the same amount of space there as you do if storing locally. A single raw file can be anywhere from 25-50 MB depending on the particular body, and a JPEG at high quality may average 10 MB per shot or more depending on several factors. If you have decent internet speed, then the
cloud can be an excellent place for your 3rd DR (disaster recovery) copy of your data.

If you store your photos in the cloud, your internet upload speed will determine how long it takes to upload a photo or download one. Your internet speed can be checked using a free ap such as Ookla speed test which you can download and run. The download speed (which is what is advertised) will be substantially faster than the upload speed. Note that the speed will be in mega BITs (Mb) per second while your photo files are in mega BYTES (MB). 1 mega byte (MB) = 8 mega bits (Mb). As a rule of thumb, you can conservatively estimate that your actual upload and download speeds for photos will be 50% of your tested speeds. It may be higher, but that’s probably worst case. You can then calculate how long it will take to upload or download your photos if you use the cloud for storage.

Example: suppose your internet tests at 100 Mb/sec download and 20 Mb/sec upload. Assume you want to upload 100 25 MB raw files (2.5 GB total). If your actual internet upload speed is 10 Mb/sec (50% of 20 Mb upload speed), then it will take you 20 seconds per photo to upload (and 4 seconds per photo to download) or 2,000 seconds (or ~33 minutes) to upload the 2.5 GB and a little over 6 minutes to download the same amount. Your actual performance may be better than 50% of the rated speed, but that is a (very) conservative estimate.

Hope that helps...
Sounds like a couple of different questions here a... (show quote)

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Dec 22, 2018 11:04:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Basically, the power you need resides in the computer. In the case of Photoshop, the only internet connection one needs is simply to verify that the "dues" have been paid. However, one does need the connection to download the program and its updates. After that, it could run independent of the internet, except for license checking.
--Bob
Innershield1 wrote:
I am in an area where internet is very expensive. I have Photoshop and would like to know how many GBs do I need to do PP. No video, stills only. Rodeo, landscape, social photos. Have D810 and others, like to shoot RAW if it doesn't affect amount of GBs. Thanks

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Dec 22, 2018 11:10:36   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
aellman wrote:
Agree with others. Once you have the application, the Internet is not involved in your
post processing. It only applies when you want to upload or download your files to
another Web location (like cloud backup). If you don't know what cloud backup is, Google it. >Alan


A lot like asking, "How much do I need to spend on a car?" The answer: somewhere between $14,000 and well over $200,000.



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