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Dec 4, 2018 20:48:24   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Kodachrome and the accompanying process is long gone. Basically it was, well- an oversimplification- a slow speed fine grain black and white material, kinda like Panatomic-X with couplers that accepted the dyes that were imbibed during the processing. The only reason I can see processing Kodachrome as black and white film is to retrieve lost images on unprocessed film. I have no idea of the quality that would be obtainable. I do not recommend shooting old Kodachrome and processing it as black and white for any serious or important work.

Ektachrome ain't all that bad, at least in is former "Professional" incarnations. The latter versions were somewhat improved as to their color palette and the old green/blue/cyan kinda tint was gone for the most part. Some of the pro films were supplied with accompanying data with recommended filter packs as starting points to acheive accurate color reproduction. This of course, was at the end of the run and then it all went out of production. I have no idea which version they brought back. At one point I switched over to Fujichrome- it was generally warmer to neutral rather than cooler and began to becom more popular among commercial photographers. That's when Kodak changed their technology and warmed up Ektachrome. Again, I have no idea which (Kodak) version they have reissued. I am not sure but I think Fujichrome is no longer in production.

Seems to me that the entire color slide culture is gone. Even if chrome films reappear on the market, there is now a dearth of specialized slide mounts and all the related supplies. There are plenty of projectors on the used market but new ones are out of production. I remember creating slideshows with multiple projectors, dissolve controls and specialized soundtrack and programming recorders- all gone! Nowadays it can all be done digitally.

There are some nice color negative films that have replaced Kodacolor. Two current versions in production are Portra 160 and 400. Unfortunately C41 processing and basic proofing is becoming less accessible and expensive. I can't see the advantage of shooting color negative film and scanning to print- might as well just go digital all the way.

Of course it's sad to see some of our old favorites disappear. I shot Kodachrome for many years, shot thousands of (E-6) chromes in large format in my commercial business and exposed thousand of rolls of C-41 material for weddings and portraiture. Good news is, I can reproduce any of my color palettes or degrees of saturation in digital work withou all the muss and fuss in the darkroom.

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Dec 4, 2018 22:00:10   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Kodachrome and the accompanying process is long gone. Basically it was, well- an oversimplification- a slow speed fine grain black and white material, kinda like Panatomic-X with couplers that accepted the dyes that were imbibed during the processing. The only reason I can see processing Kodachrome as black and white film is to retrieve lost images on unprocessed film. I have no idea of the quality that would be obtainable. I do not recommend shooting old Kodachrome and processing it as black and white for any serious or important work.

Ektachrome ain't all that bad, at least in is former "Professional" incarnations. The latter versions were somewhat improved as to their color palette and the old green/blue/cyan kinda tint was gone for the most part. Some of the pro films were supplied with accompanying data with recommended filter packs as starting points to acheive accurate color reproduction. This of course, was at the end of the run and then it all went out of production. I have no idea which version they brought back. At one point I switched over to Fujichrome- it was generally warmer to neutral rather than cooler and began to becom more popular among commercial photographers. That's when Kodak changed their technology and warmed up Ektachrome. Again, I have no idea which (Kodak) version they have reissued. I am not sure but I think Fujichrome is no longer in production.

Seems to me that the entire color slide culture is gone. Even if chrome films reappear on the market, there is now a dearth of specialized slide mounts and all the related supplies. There are plenty of projectors on the used market but new ones are out of production. I remember creating slideshows with multiple projectors, dissolve controls and specialized soundtrack and programming recorders- all gone! Nowadays it can all be done digitally.

There are some nice color negative films that have replaced Kodacolor. Two current versions in production are Portra 160 and 400. Unfortunately C41 processing and basic proofing is becoming less accessible and expensive. I can't see the advantage of shooting color negative film and scanning to print- might as well just go digital all the way.

Of course it's sad to see some of our old favorites disappear. I shot Kodachrome for many years, shot thousands of (E-6) chromes in large format in my commercial business and exposed thousand of rolls of C-41 material for weddings and portraiture. Good news is, I can reproduce any of my color palettes or degrees of saturation in digital work withou all the muss and fuss in the darkroom.
Kodachrome and the accompanying process is long go... (show quote)


Speaking of multi projector shows. Back in the 74-75 school year when I was teaching basic photography as an emergency replacement for the photo teacher who had become an administrator a large camera shop near the school (they gave me a lot of help) sponsored the traveling Kodak show at a local college's performance hall. They had an 18 wheeler full of gear, if I remember right it was 8 projectors (two man crew on each swapping out slide trays etc) on a four part super wide screen, sound gear out the kazoo and a couple of large studio control/editing boards with several operators all working in sync, fade in fade out swips etc and at one point all eight projectors (one on the top half, one on the bottom half of the 4 sections of the screen. Synced music and narration for the whole show which I seem to remember was about 1 hour. It basically just blew the audience away. One guy who had also seen the early traveling show of "Fantasia" compared the Kodak show to that.

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Dec 5, 2018 06:07:25   #
ELNikkor
 
I shot Kodachrome while I could, but when Ektachrome Plus Professional came out, it became my slide film of choice; wish they had brought that back instead of regular Ektachrome...

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Dec 5, 2018 06:16:29   #
Flash Falasca Loc: Beverly Hills, Florida
 
I don't know your physical limitations but c41 processing is beyond easy, the hard part is keeping the temp right and that is easy with a controlled heating device!! I use a sous vide cooking device to heat a water bath and it becomes simple the rest is easier than black and white ! then just scan the negitives. the chemicals are around $25 and can develop 15 or 20 rolls mabye more. If this is of no interest maybe someone else will find it useful !!


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Dec 5, 2018 07:13:39   #
A.J.R. Loc: Devon, UK
 
No good if your looking for the quality of Kodachrome, but maybe of interest if you have some undeveloped rolls.

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/255669-processing-a-kodachrome-64-in-b-and-w

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Dec 5, 2018 07:40:42   #
Treborteko1 Loc: New Jersey
 
Flash Falasca wrote:
I don't know your physical limitations but c41 processing is beyond easy, the hard part is keeping the temp right and that is easy with a controlled heating device!! I use a sous vide cooking device to heat a water bath and it becomes simple the rest is easier than black and white ! then just scan the negitives. the chemicals are around $25 and can develop 15 or 20 rolls mabye more. If this is of no interest maybe someone else will find it useful !!


Thanks Flash. I'm getting the info down first, then I'll worry about me...:)

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Dec 5, 2018 07:55:57   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Treborteko1 wrote:
Hoggers
I have unfortunately been held captive by two major spine surgeries. But my mind still functions. I've been reading up, on what I gave up years ago. The elegant and invigorating elements of 35mm Kodachrome and Kodacolor photography. I do have a question, does anyone know of a reliable processor?
Any help would be appreciated...:)


While you are recovering watch the movie "Kodachrome"

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Dec 5, 2018 08:25:26   #
Treborteko1 Loc: New Jersey
 
A.J.R. wrote:
No good if your looking for the quality of Kodachrome, but maybe of interest if you have some undeveloped rolls.

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/255669-processing-a-kodachrome-64-in-b-and-w


Thanks A.J.R.
For black and white it looks pretty simple. My interest is to find color processing for Kodachrome. So far a few leads, but no "Birthday Cake."

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Dec 5, 2018 08:26:28   #
Treborteko1 Loc: New Jersey
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
While you are recovering watch the movie "Kodachrome"


Hello Chrisg
I just might do that...:)

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Dec 5, 2018 08:37:57   #
Treborteko1 Loc: New Jersey
 
robertjerl wrote:
Speaking of multi projector shows. Back in the 74-75 school year when I was teaching basic photography as an emergency replacement for the photo teacher who had become an administrator a large camera shop near the school (they gave me a lot of help) sponsored the traveling Kodak show at a local college's performance hall. They had an 18 wheeler full of gear, if I remember right it was 8 projectors (two man crew on each swapping out slide trays etc) on a four part super wide screen, sound gear out the kazoo and a couple of large studio control/editing boards with several operators all working in sync, fade in fade out swips etc and at one point all eight projectors (one on the top half, one on the bottom half of the 4 sections of the screen. Synced music and narration for the whole show which I seem to remember was about 1 hour. It basically just blew the audience away. One guy who had also seen the early traveling show of "Fantasia" compared the Kodak show to that.
Speaking of multi projector shows. Back in the 74... (show quote)


Hello E.L.
I guess you are telling me it just can't be done. But you yourself stated how the quality of kodachrome (and professionals who did the 8 projector show) was primary to comparing Kodachrome to a world standard, Fantasia. If so many did so much with kodachrome, to provide a staple photographic medium, then there should be a resurrection to bring back that virtual art form. I'm sorry E.L. but I'm gettin' all teary eyed over this Kodachrome thing...:)

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Dec 5, 2018 08:51:05   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
www.citizensphoto.com

$10.00 per roll, which includes high res scans.

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Dec 5, 2018 08:58:53   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
A couple of comments of maybe interest.
I had the pleasure of working with a famous photographer Art Beck for food shots in New York for my ad agency.
He would use huge diffused lighting over a still setup and 8x10 Kodachrome sheet film (think it was specially made)

On another issue I owned an AV company that produced very big slide shows for big corporations like Scott Paper and ADP.
The show were banks of 3 projectors and usually at least 4 banks of 3 on custom stands. And they were run by custom computer
systems off of 4 track tape machines and the unit. We could create animation and huge images on many screens. Some of the
bigger shows run by NY companies had a hundred projectors. And we had scaffolding to service the show by expert techs.
My company never used Kodachrome for the slides. I believe we used Fugichrome for all this original photography. The slides
were glass mounted and cleaned by hand. This was the rage in the 80's and slowed down into the 90's.

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Dec 5, 2018 09:43:19   #
Kaylen
 
Check with local or national camera sellers. Your hunt for 35mm processing may be available through mail order or near where you live. Mike's Camera in Colorado and California processes 35mm film but also sells new 35mm film. I'm sure you'll get directed to sources through this inquiry. Kaylen

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Dec 5, 2018 09:43:46   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Treborteko1 wrote:
Hoggers
I have unfortunately been held captive by two major spine surgeries. But my mind still functions. I've been reading up, on what I gave up years ago. The elegant and invigorating elements of 35mm Kodachrome and Kodacolor photography. I do have a question, does anyone know of a reliable processor?
Any help would be appreciated...:)


If you have exposed film in a drawer, know this:

Kodachrome film and color processing are no longer officially available from anyone*. You can find a lab or two who will soup it to Black-and-White.

https://processonephoto.com/kodachrome-processing.htm

*https://shootfilmco.com/blogs/shoot-film-co/kodachrome-processed-in-color-seriously

Kodacolor C-41 processing is still available from most labs who develop Fujifilm color negatives (it’s essentially the same process).

Kodacolor C-22 processing is available in Black-and-White only.

http://www.thecamerashop.com/imagecenter/c22.html

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Dec 5, 2018 10:18:11   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Yes, virtually everyone loved Kodachrome, but it really is gone. So is Plus-X, and Panatomic-X. It only lives as processed film, or if you have any unprocessed
Kodachrome it can still be processed to black & white images. And it "lives" in that Paul Simon song, "Kodachrome".

Kodacolor Negative film or its modern updates can be processed easily with C-41 Chemistry. I'm not sure all labs remember the processing details for actual Kodacolor film as its been replaced by similar films several times.

You might like to know that several models of digital cameras have JPEG file internal processing that duplicates the look of many types of film. I know Fuji cameras may "produce" fujifilm film-like images for favorite fuji films. I would image there are digital cameras that will give you Kodak looking images, including Kodachrome and Kodacolor. It can certainly be done with Photoshop CS or CC software.
Yes, virtually everyone loved Kodachrome, but it r... (show quote)


Yes, Fuji’s film simulation for Kodachrome is called Classic Chrome, and does remind me of the original. Their Velvia, Provia, and Astia film simulations are also great, as is Acros for B&W.

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