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Nikon 24-120 f/4 vs. Tamron 24-70 f2.8 G2
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Dec 4, 2018 11:07:01   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Those of us that do not care for the quality of images from the newer 24-120, “do not know how to shoot. End of story.” Bold statement. Can it be backed up with facts? 🤔. You are saying that many of the photographers in this group are inexperienced hacks, lacking knowledge and skill?

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Dec 4, 2018 11:13:42   #
Sladecam Loc: Vancouver, BC
 
I too have the latest generation of Nikkor 24-120 f4 which came paired with my D750 three years back. Aware of the historical criticism of prior iterations of the lens, I can only say that I have been very pleased with my version. I sold that D750 body (kept the lens) and I’ve now had a D850 for a year. Love the new combo just as much. Now, that said, would I like the extra stop down to 2.8? Yes. I have both Tamron’s 15-30 2.8 (G1) and 70-200 2.8 (G2) and love them both. As has been well documented, they’re superb performers and tremendous value. If I didn’t have the 24-120, the Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 would be my first choice to round out that trinity...and it may happen yet.

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Dec 4, 2018 11:21:20   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
Those of us that do not care for the quality of images from the newer 24-120, “do not know how to shoot. End of story.” Bold statement. Can it be backed up with facts? 🤔. You are saying that many of the photographers in this group are inexperienced hacks, lacking knowledge and skill?


You are freely generalizing what I said.

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Dec 4, 2018 11:23:00   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
billnikon wrote:
You are freely generalizing what I said.


Not really. I was directly quoting what you wrote.

No big deal.

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Dec 4, 2018 12:12:27   #
RonM12 Loc: Washington State
 
billnikon wrote:
I own the latest version of the Nikon 24-120 f4. I have been extremely happy with the image quality of this lens. An f4 lens on today's Nikon camera's (especially the D850) is no longer an issue. An f4 lens can be shot at a higher ISO on your D850 with NO problems. As a result of today's camera's to handle higher ISO's, f2.8 lens does not have the advantage over a f4's as it once did because Nikon camera bodies do a much better job at higher ISO's than they used to.
I love this site and love when folks downgrade a Nikon lens over a Tamron. It tells me they know little about photography. The quality that a lens delivers is largely due to the experience and level of professionalism displayed by the photographer, not the lens, especially if we are talking about a gold ring lens like the Nikon 24-120. Anyone who says they are not pleased with that lens simply does not know how to shoot. End of story.
My advice, save your money for a nice new Nikon 70-200 2.8 or, even better, the older version of the Nikon 24-70 2.8 G. There is a reason many wedding photographers use this as a go to lens for most of their shots.
Look at this Nikon 24-70 g lens, mint in the box off ebay, what a deal, and best of all, it is a Nikon and it won't let you down.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-Nikkor-AF-S-24-70mm-f2-8-G-ED-USA-model-Excellent-condition/163404332354?epid=101740680&hash=item260ba83d42:g:jJcAAOSwCPZb~5BK:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true
I own the latest version of the Nikon 24-120 f4. I... (show quote)


Thanks for the feedback. The 24-120 is my most often used lens. Having recently move from a D810 to the D850, it may be that the D850 is a little less forgiving by magnifying mistakes made by me. I prefer to stick with in my case, Nikon glass. Some of the reviews I’ve read on 3rd party lenses have been quite good. While saving a few dollars is nice, when spread out over several years it becomes less of a factor for me. And, I’d suspect manufacturer lenses have a higher resale value over comparable 3rd party lenses. That being said, most of the reviews on the Tamron 24-70 G2 have been quite good. The Nikon 24-70 g lens may be a viable option, though I’m spoiled and like my VR at times.
Thanks again.

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Dec 4, 2018 14:32:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Same link I posted above, Bill.


It hit my daily YouTube link feed this morning...

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Dec 4, 2018 14:44:40   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
burkphoto wrote:
It hit my daily YouTube link feed this morning...


Is this something you can subscribe to for specific subjects?

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Dec 4, 2018 16:35:18   #
msandersal Loc: Alabama Gulf Coast
 
I have used the 24-120 Nikon for heavy professional use since I got the D850 a year ago. I am happy with everything about it. I shoot panoramic group photos of Senior classes with it and have no trouble with every face being in sharp focus on the 12x36 prints that I sell.

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Dec 4, 2018 18:06:30   #
NikonZSeriesMike Loc: Naples, FL
 
I purchased a Nikon D750 along with the Nikon 24-120. I used the 24-120 for a year and was pleased with it. I then sold the 24-120 and purchased a Tamron 24-70 F/2.8 G2. It’s been a fabulous lens. It’s sharp and I love the extra stop and VC. Since then I purchased a Tamron 70-200 F/2.8 G2 and it’s a fine lens. Excellent build quality on both and a great price as well.

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Dec 4, 2018 19:08:11   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
RonM12 wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. The 24-120 is my most often used lens. Having recently move from a D810 to the D850, it may be that the D850 is a little less forgiving by magnifying mistakes made by me. I prefer to stick with in my case, Nikon glass. Some of the reviews I’ve read on 3rd party lenses have been quite good. While saving a few dollars is nice, when spread out over several years it becomes less of a factor for me. And, I’d suspect manufacturer lenses have a higher resale value over comparable 3rd party lenses. That being said, most of the reviews on the Tamron 24-70 G2 have been quite good. The Nikon 24-70 g lens may be a viable option, though I’m spoiled and like my VR at times.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the feedback. The 24-120 is my most oft... (show quote)


VR has it's advantages if you hand holding at a slow shutter speeds. When I did wedding photography I always used flash. Most of the time the flash head was aimed up and behind me for a very NATURAL LIGHT looking shot as if I had not used flash. I never had to worry about shooting slow and having blurred images as the flash speed froze the action and I did not have to be concerned about VR. I still own the g and have hardly ever had a situation where camera shake or a slow shutter speed ruined a shot. BUT, that being said the E series VR version covers it all. But for now, I will stick with my g
And you are correct about Nikon holding their value. Yes, the Tamron is cheaper (and their is a good reason, but that's for another post) and in a few years the Tamron will be worth MUCH less than the Nikon, Nikon will hold it's value much better than third party glass. So, you are actually better off with a Canon, Sony, or Nikon lens in the long run. PLUS, the Canon, Sony, and Nikon will hold their tolerances much longer than third party glass.

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Dec 4, 2018 19:31:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Is this something you can subscribe to for specific subjects?


No, it works like Google AdSense. They give you more of what you already watched. However, you can subscribe to anyone’s channel and they email you about each new post.

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Dec 4, 2018 21:10:02   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
The image quality of the Nikon 24-120 f/4 is excellent. Great walking around lens.

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Dec 5, 2018 06:23:47   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
DavidPine wrote:
The image quality of the Nikon 24-120 f/4 is excellent. Great walking around lens.



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Dec 6, 2018 13:59:31   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
I've had the D810 and 24x120, f/4 combination for over a year and have had ample opportunity to use them together. The combo works well for me and I would buy the package again. For what it's worth, here's two typical examples.


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Dec 6, 2018 15:41:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
billnikon wrote:
VR has it's advantages if you hand holding at a slow shutter speeds. When I did wedding photography I always used flash. Most of the time the flash head was aimed up and behind me for a very NATURAL LIGHT looking shot as if I had not used flash. I never had to worry about shooting slow and having blurred images as the flash speed froze the action and I did not have to be concerned about VR. I still own the g and have hardly ever had a situation where camera shake or a slow shutter speed ruined a shot. BUT, that being said the E series VR version covers it all. But for now, I will stick with my g
And you are correct about Nikon holding their value. Yes, the Tamron is cheaper (and their is a good reason, but that's for another post) and in a few years the Tamron will be worth MUCH less than the Nikon, Nikon will hold it's value much better than third party glass. So, you are actually better off with a Canon, Sony, or Nikon lens in the long run. PLUS, the Canon, Sony, and Nikon will hold their tolerances much longer than third party glass.
VR has it's advantages if you hand holding at a sl... (show quote)


Value is relative to purpose. If reselling is in your future, resale value retention is a consideration. If low cost, yet reliable operation in a business setting is a primary consideration, resale value is practically irrelevant.

In 2004, at the school portrait company I worked for, we had a choice. We could by Canon's excellent 24-70mm f/2.8 zooms for 330 cameras. At that point, the lowest price at which we could get them in bulk was just over $1000, which included a one year US warranty. But alternatively, we could get Tamron's excellent 28-75mm f/2.8 for $339 in quantity. The Tamron came with a six year warranty.

We would be using either of these lenses quite heavily! The average camera would be used for around 450 exposures per day, seasonally, for about 30,000 clicks per year, give or take 10,000. So they had to work.

The decision came down to price and warranty. We bought the Tamrons and never looked back. Our testing showed that the Tamron was just as sharp as the Canon at f/5.6 to f/8, the portrait aperture range we wanted to use on our APS-C Canons. It was noisier, but the application didn't require silence.

Some of those lenses were on their third or fourth camera body when our company division was sold to Lifetouch in 2011. VERY FEW ever required warranty service. A handful were repaired for drops or mistreatment (extreme heat from being stored in a car trunk in summer, or extreme cold from being stored in a car trunk in Minnesota winter).

We did have some photographers complain that they were not very sharp at f/16, and practically useless at f/32 (!), but that was because those photographers didn't have a clue about diffraction limiting of sharpness. They were group photographers used to small apertures on 8x10 view cameras! We had to educate them about depth of field calculators...

The newest Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 VC lens is quite sharp, focuses quicker than the old 28-75mm, has excellent stabilization, and is MUCH better built than the lenses we were using a decade ago. It is also half the price of the newest Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8. Tamron still includes a six year warranty.

I have nothing against Nikon... I used Nikon (and Canon) cameras and lenses for 40+ years. But I'm also interested in economy. For about the price of the Nikon 24-70, you can buy the Tamron 24-70 AND their excellent 70-200mm f/2.8 VC zoom. I know what I'd do...

That 28-75mm f/2.8 we used so many of is still available for around $500. Used ones are around $275 to $300. I think they hold their value pretty well.

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