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Dec 3, 2018 18:45:28   #
erbiv Loc: Ellijay, GA ...retired from Anchorage, AK
 
Very, very nice!

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Dec 4, 2018 06:06:06   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
Beautiful work

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Dec 4, 2018 06:07:11   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Very good, love the rays...

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Dec 4, 2018 06:16:11   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 

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Dec 4, 2018 06:34:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Beautiful!!!
--Bob
Cany143 wrote:
Seen as black and white, shot on film and developed as black and white, finished as digital.

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Dec 4, 2018 08:06:46   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 

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Dec 4, 2018 08:08:15   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
Cany143 wrote:
Seen as black and white, shot on film and developed as black and white, finished as digital.


Inspiring!

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Dec 4, 2018 08:29:01   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Cany143 wrote:
Seen as black and white, shot on film and developed as black and white, finished as digital.


Nice very nice.

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Dec 4, 2018 08:39:43   #
Manny Jay Loc: Colorado
 
CREPUSCULAR That's the word for the suns rays through the clouds. Thanks, Manny!

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Dec 4, 2018 09:09:07   #
cabunit Loc: SE Connecticut
 
Outstanding scene. Powerful and evocative, and another reminder of why I so love the West (on the few occasions when I can get out there).

I love the control I have with digital software that I never had with film, but perhaps I just don't have sophisticated perception. So I'm curious as to whether you also made a digital original of the scene, and what advantages you saw in the film version, because I've never made a direct comparison. Of course, by the time you scan a negative and post it on line, the differences may be difficult to see.

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Dec 4, 2018 09:22:13   #
OneShot1 Loc: Wichita, KS, USA
 
Power and majesty!

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Dec 4, 2018 10:40:35   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
MAGICAL LOOKING....Thank You

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Dec 4, 2018 11:14:55   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
cabunit wrote:
Outstanding scene. Powerful and evocative, and another reminder of why I so love the West (on the few occasions when I can get out there).

I love the control I have with digital software that I never had with film, but perhaps I just don't have sophisticated perception. So I'm curious as to whether you also made a digital original of the scene, and what advantages you saw in the film version, because I've never made a direct comparison. Of course, by the time you scan a negative and post it on line, the differences may be difficult to see.
Outstanding scene. Powerful and evocative, and an... (show quote)


Thanks for your comment, cab. Just as much, thanks for your question. Especially so since questions often lead to answers, and answers sometimes lead to other questions and on and on, and the next thing you know, a discussion --an exchange of ideas-- is happening, or had happened. And if the participants were genuinely interested in the topic, there's a better than passing chance that discussion might continue, even after the exchanging parties had parted, y'know what I mean?

I didn't shoot a digital version of the scene because digital cameras didn't exist (at least in any regular person, non-high tech setting sort of way) at the time. And I couldn't shoot the scene in color because I didn't have any color film, all I had was b&w film loaded in my (5" x 7" view camera) film holders. For years before and years after the time I took this shot, the majority of what I shot was large format b&w, and it really didn't have much to do with having any special sophistication, it had to do with economics. I could afford boxes of b&w sheet film, and the chemistry to develop it, and I'd assembled a home darkroom sufficient to print b&w, but I couldn't afford to do the same with color.

The perception part you mentioned is pretty actual, though. I'm pretty convinced that it does take a 'different way of seeing' to shoot b&w than it does to shoot color. Roll film, whether 35mm or medium format, were alright of course, and I certainly used those, too, but the drawback with those was that a roll could only receive one particular development, whereas sheet film could be developed very specifically, and the differences in the image quality between prints made from small format and large format were, I felt, legion.

Afterward, for twenty years or so, the majority of what I shot would best be described as technical and/or documentary. I used LF b&w at times still, after re-adapting even further some of my exposure/development norms, but in the field and in their intended and final use, 35mm color transparency film became necessary, and was just the logical choice. That required scanning though, and that led to software. Inevitably, the next logical (and economic) step was digital cameras and the advent of even more sophisticated software packages, and here we are today.

Once upon a time, I think I was pretty ok in a darkroom. At least my boss --the guy who ran the A/V department at the university who employed me (part-time; I kept my 'regular' job because however good or bad I might have been at any aspect of photography, I needed a workable income) as 'the' b&w printer-- didn't fire me. I learned a lot there, and I like to think that I can apply some of that learning to what I do today, now that I'm retired and have the time and means to indulge myself a little more.

How about you?

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Dec 4, 2018 11:55:38   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Wow!

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Dec 4, 2018 12:02:36   #
gilpog
 
Wonderful image. Love your shades of grey. Well done.

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