ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

I propose we get rid of guns completely.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

What a dumb ass and ridiculous post. Not even Attic material, just stupidity material.

Dennis

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

There are too many legal guns in our country. Plus most law enforcement types would
not participate in gun confiscation, they understand the 2nd Amendment.
Or...

Oh... your from someplace that doesn’t have the 2nd Amendment and are living in a form of tyranny.
You don’t have any guns that can be controlled. How could you understand having a god given right taken away from from yourself?
The answer to protecting kids in schools is a good person with a gun.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

It is mainly the person and their attitude.

Back in 1966 I joined the Regular Army (means I wasn't drafted) and I took this oath (I already had the attitude from how I grew up.):

Military Oath of Enlistment
I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Note, it has no expiration date! Most of us read it as the "...Constitution and people of...".

Combine that with my beliefs of duty to family and loved ones and of "in loco parentis" when I was a teacher and it means that if necessary I would risk my own safety or even life to protect my family, my students and other innocents.

Many today do not understand that attitude. Several years ago I saw a TV news article in which a Grandfather was shot when he had a gun battle with a group of home invaders whom he drove off. A reporter stuck a microphone in his face as the Para Medics were putting him in the ambulance and asked why he took that risk - he asked if his family was safe and when told they were he whispered "Good, es bueno". The reporter and the news anchor on the TV news could not understand that.
The man was a naturalized citizen and immigrant from Mexico - "todos para familia"! I taught in East Los Angeles, my students totally understood that. On any given day you could see former students with a visitors badge on their uniform visiting on campus. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, Sheriff, Police we had and saw them all among our former students on a daily basis.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

There is no god. If there were, every country would have the "god given right" to allow guns for all.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Almost as cruel and opportunistic as Lord Fluffy in Pittsburgh.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

How coincidental, I happened to read just yesterday, the murder rate in London just surpassed the murder rate in NYC. How strange when, supposedly, London doesn’t allow handguns and rifles and shotguns are highly regulated and monitored. Could it be that gun owners are correct when they tell lawmakers, Pass all the gun laws you want. They only work for law abiding citizens. America has over 25,000 gun laws. Not one of them has ever stopped one person from killing another.

Dennis

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Good to know you don’t know there is a god.
Now for something completely different.
Science.....
How about your primal instinct right to protect yourself?
Yes, I know in some states they keep buckets of rocks in classrooms
to stone what ever bad guy with a gun that comes into a classroom.
Should we at least upgrade our schools with pointed sticks? Long ones, like pikes?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

👍👍👍

Well said,

Dennis

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

All serving a two year term in public service or the military would produce a country with citizens that understand what it takes to keep a country great, many would also receive training in employment needed skills. A country with an oversupply of college diplomas in liberal arts is a country with a lot of unemployable grads.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Just how do you propose to do this....should be an interesting reply...

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

The only benefit of the draft would be to temper the rah rah, gung ho volunteer mono-culture with different ideas about being a soldier.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Ever since I was in elementary school and read about Switzerland and a few others who do that I have thought it would be a good idea.
And the author Robert Heinlein agreed. His book Starship Troopers features a future where only those who do service in the military or other fields are full citizens and vote, run for or hold office or get first chance at government jobs like police, fireman, EMT and certain types of teaching jobs. (some of those also count as service) Everyone else has full civil/human rights and protections plus anytime they decide they want to be full citizens they can volunteer to serve. The main character is the son of an international businessman and multi-millionaire who goes into the military and becomes an officer to pay society back for how well his family has it. At the end of the book his unit is getting replacements after taking a lot of casualties fighting an alien species and his new Sgt Major who walks in is ... his father... who volunteered and based on his having built and run a major company is made a Sgt Major after training. I seem to remember his explanation was he realized he needed to serve just as much or more than his son.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

Our main problem (which I have already stated earlier in this thread) is with knife crime. Clearly if we had your gun culture there would be a much bigger problem with gun crime. Would you like to guess at how many extra people would be wounded or dead today if every knife crime was instead committed with a gun?

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

I agree with this.