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Nov 30, 2018 09:29:14   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Yet your dear NRA refuses to support gun control. You are the one supporting killing folks in real life as you support the NRA, which I do not.

So anyone willing to shoot santa and takes this seriously is a sick puppy.


I imagine ,in your eyes, gun control is total confiscation...BTW I am a LIfe NRA Member and am not supporting killing anyone ( who dont need killing)

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Nov 30, 2018 09:33:08   #
FrumCA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Yet your dear NRA refuses to support gun control. You are the one supporting killing folks in real life as you support the NRA, which I do not.

So anyone willing to shoot santa and takes this seriously is a sick puppy.

The only sick puppy here is you with your sadly twisted views and equally sorry jokes.

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Nov 30, 2018 09:37:12   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Thread is in very poor taste...

But given the OP, is anyone surprised?

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Nov 30, 2018 09:39:38   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
mwalsh wrote:
Thread is in very poor taste...

But given the OP, is anyone surprised?


no..

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Nov 30, 2018 09:52:19   #
EyeSawYou
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Tell that to the folks killed.


Tell that to the families of those murdered that couldn't defend themselves in gun free zoned schools.

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Nov 30, 2018 09:54:31   #
EyeSawYou
 
Rongnongno wrote:
At midnight a bearded man in weird clothes will come into your castle and leave suspicious packages.

For $9.99 only get our promotional toy like firearm and shoot the bastard before he lands on your roof.

This year will be hot for santa. No one will see the red on his clothes.

Be safe folks and load them up!!!


Somebody needs to rip that 1970s "Jokes for Dummies" book out of your hands.

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Nov 30, 2018 09:57:55   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
I think in a show of defiance we should all post unauthorized pictures on his threads....

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Nov 30, 2018 12:30:26   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Tell that to the families of those murdered that couldn't defend themselves in gun free zoned schools.


Are you saying you want guns in schools?

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Nov 30, 2018 12:39:57   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
I think it was being facetious. No disrespect to you, there are others who stand by the right to walk into a Walmart and buy a gun, no matter what atrocities may come from having a gun. I'm thinking more of accidental shootings rather than some of the others. Regardless, it's all a symptom of gun rights. I could be wrong in my interpretation of course.


It comes down to knowledge, training etc., plus attitude.
Anyone with a gun, just like any other tool has to have knowledge, training and the correct mental state to use it safely.
In my home town school got out at 3PM, by 3:15 during hunting season you saw kids (mostly boys, but a few girls) walking, riding bikes or in the back of the family pickup truck with their guns heading to the woods and wild land along the Ohio river to hunt. No one worried because they knew those kids had been trained in safety, hunting and how to use their guns. Any family that didn't do that got a visit from their friends and were talked to, often ending with someone else training their kids. The few kids who still couldn't be trusted either never got to go hunting or only with an adult supervising.
The principal of the High School (grades 9-12) told the students to not leave guns in their cars, bring them to him and he would lock them in the supply room until school was over. But they only had until 3:15 to pick them up or he would be gone - hunting - and they couldn't get their gun back until the next school day.
Oh, and about half of the boys and many girls enlisted in the military after high school or college with most doing one enlistment but a few of every graduating class staying in until retirement. Service was a tradition for the majority of families in our area. Then many became peace officers, fireman, doctors, nurses, ministers and teachers. At my 15 year reunion I found that over 1/2 of my graduating class had gone into one of those fields on at least a part time basis.

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Nov 30, 2018 12:45:43   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Are you saying you want guns in schools?


Yes, that will solve mass murder at schools across America.

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Nov 30, 2018 13:01:16   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
robertjerl wrote:
It comes down to knowledge, training etc., plus attitude.
Anyone with a gun, just like any other tool has to have knowledge, training and the correct mental state to use it safely.
In my home town school got out at 3PM, by 3:15 during hunting season you saw kids (mostly boys, but a few girls) walking, riding bikes or in the back of the family pickup truck with their guns heading to the woods and wild land along the Ohio river to hunt. No one worried because they knew those kids had been trained in safety, hunting and how to use their guns. Any family that didn't do that got a visit from their friends and were talked to, often ending with someone else training their kids. The few kids who still couldn't be trusted either never got to go hunting or only with an adult supervising.
The principal of the High School (grades 9-12) told the students to not leave guns in their cars, bring them to him and he would lock them in the supply room until school was over. But they only had until 3:15 to pick them up or he would be gone - hunting - and they couldn't get their gun back until the next school day.
Oh, and about half of the boys and many girls enlisted in the military after high school or college with most doing one enlistment but a few of every graduating class staying in until retirement. Service was a tradition for the majority of families in our area. Then many became peace officers, fireman, doctors, nurses, ministers and teachers. At my 15 year reunion I found that over 1/2 of my graduating class had gone into one of those fields on at least a part time basis.
It comes down to knowledge, training etc., plus at... (show quote)


I can't disagree with what you say, though I question hunting with the wide availability of meat. That's an aside of course. What you say makes a lot of sense. It's no secret that London has a problem with knife crime. Sadly, when weapons are easily available, there are people who will make the most of them in their criminal pursuits. Thais what's happening in London. Then of course there are mentally unstable people, and irresponsible people who let their young children find their guns. Society cannot be trusted as a whole any more. There are too many exceptions to the responsible people.

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Nov 30, 2018 13:01:34   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
yhtomit wrote:
Yes, that will solve mass murder at schools across America.


Unbelievable.

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Nov 30, 2018 13:10:18   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
yhtomit wrote:
Yes, that will solve mass murder at schools across America.


But only trained, trustworthy volunteer personnel. No one forced to carry, no one with a "wrong" attitude, no one without training.
At one school I worked one of the Auto Shop teachers was a veteran and a Sgt in his towns Police Reserve. He had a letter putting him on 24/7 duty and instructed to always have his badge, ID and gun. People at the school knew that if needed call his classroom or send a runner and he would respond to help the campus police officer or on his own if needed. He also had a short list of people that he was prepared to give his backup gun to in an emergency (all veterans, the Principal was a former Marine and a few of the rest of us were also veterans). For a while we also had an LAPD officer teaching a special class called "Youth and The Law". He, the auto shop teacher, the principal, the campus officer and those of us he trusted were all part of an informal "reaction team". We never had to do anything, even the gang bangers were well behaved on our campus. If they had had a law allowing teachers to be armed there were several of us who would have volunteered. And all of the ones I knew, I would have trusted.
It would have made me better prepared to protect my students - "in loco parentis" - in place of the parents - was always one of my main views of my position as a teacher. I would protect my students as if I was their parent and I trusted/hoped that my children's teachers would do the same.

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Nov 30, 2018 13:19:43   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
I can't disagree with what you say, though I question hunting with the wide availability of meat. That's an aside of course. What you say makes a lot of sense. It's no secret that London has a problem with knife crime. Sadly, when weapons are easily available, there are people who will make the most of them in their criminal pursuits. Thais what's happening in London. Then of course there are mentally unstable people, and irresponsible people who let their young children find their guns. Society cannot be trusted as a whole any more. There are too many exceptions to the responsible people.
I can't disagree with what you say, though I quest... (show quote)


Well, it took decades for the attitudes to break down and with an effort (mostly in education) it could be reversed, but it would also take decades to fully reverse it.
We could with effort return to the days when all good citizens were ready and able to protect and defend their nation and other people.
It works in Switzerland and a few other nations. In fact in Switzerland they all serve and when they retire out of the Swiss Militia they get their weapon to keep. Very few armed robbers etc in Switzerland. You have to be pretty stupid to try and hold up someone who might have a government issued assault rifle under the cash register - and knows how to use it!

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Nov 30, 2018 13:54:30   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
Unbelievable.


How do you propose we stop a bad guy with a gun in a classroom?

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