If you were manager of the “Landscape Section”....
I would say #2 is a landscape. To me the subject is the environment in which a mill is located; a part of the landscape.
Linda From Maine wrote:
Orientation: I have many vertical landscapes
It would be the position and the size of the mill. In Uuglypher's posting, all elements lead us directly to the mill.
The whole point of the composition seems to be the mill. In dsmeltz's topic that opened this entire "thing" about a landscape forum, someone posted a barn that was a small part of the composition with huge mountains behind. That would be a landscape IMO with the hand of man demonstrating scale - vast rugged landscape vs. puny human presence.
But the value of discussing this one picture is (IMO again) that we are evaluating whether the photographer was successful. And to know if he was successful requires us to understand his
intent when taking the picture.
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Linda, This image (from a former life) is 100% nature, it is also 100% about the waterfall. Would it also qualify as "landscape"?
Magnificent shot and workmanship!
Rich1939 wrote:
Linda, This image (from a former life) is 100% nature, it is also 100% about the waterfall. Would it also qualify as "landscape"?
I.M.O. Yes. Just as much about nature and about the wetland winter reeds in #3 and about nature and about the terraced rock-scape in #7.
Dave
[quote=Linda From Maine]Yes, and that's why I added, So if up to me, #2 would stand and I would hope to promote discussion about what is the subject and why/why not it is a "landscape."
I'm not positive of Uuglypher's purpose in posting this topic...??
Sorry, Linda, not to have spelled it out. It’s purpose is to elicit exactly the sorts of responses that it has, (and, I hope, many more responses from others in UHH) to get a better handle on what the general sense of what “landscape “ means to the majority of responders from UHH.
Dave
Or it might broaden it beyond our conventional understanding - it mentions close-up and fisheye lenses.
But it does suggest another criterion - static subjects (although moving water should not disqualify an image) and ambient light (the presence of city lighting could be considered ambient).
But you can easily see why trying to nail down a specific specification may be more trouble than it's worth.
Now I think I know where the term “microscopic” offered in the definition in the original thread came from..
Another excellent on-line gallery of landscapes can be found by Googling “Landscape imagery” > Images
Dave
Might it not be more efficient to list what wouldn't be acceptable in a UHH forum section on landscapes.
1-Yes
3-Yes
4-No
5-No
6-Yes
7-Yes
8-Yes
9-No
10-No
I agree with the above. I originally thought "yes" to #2 but Linda from Maine has me wavering on that one.
Linda From Maine wrote:
Just so you know, Dave, I've declined the nomination
There is not yet a final definition, but at this point in time if I were the one to choose:
1. yes
2. no
3. yes
4. no, only because I agreed with your comment about close-ups vs vast and because there is a Close-up Forum already
5. no
6. emphatically yes (abstracts!)
7. yes
8. yes
9. no
10. no
The only difference between mine and Bob Malarz: #2. The subject of that photo is the mill, not the landscape. BUT!!!! Let me quote IDGuy, who just posted the following to my thread:
"It is over-controlling and demeaning to remove someone’s post unless they are offensive or obviously in error. You’ll for sure discourage that poster and possibly others if they find out about the one person judge and jury."So if up to me, #2 would stand and I would hope to promote discussion about what is the subject and why/why not it is a "landscape."
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I agree with Bob Malarz too, but Linda, why do you question #2 as a landscape? How would you label it, if not a Landscape? I read your subsequent post re intent and think I understand your reservations. Just wondering what you think would be an appropriate label or category. I shoot a lot of pictures that have buildings or man made objects set in landscapes - sometimes I use them elements and sometimes as focal points, but I have always considered them to be landscapes.
Rich1939 wrote:
Linda, This image (from a former life) is 100% nature, it is also 100% about the waterfall. Would it also qualify as "landscape"?
Wowsa, great impact for me! In my own topic, an edited draft includes "Landscape photography is primarily about nature: the vast outdoor spaces in the world, including the sea or other bodies of water." I don't see how you can separate water from the land on which it exists.
But, happily, my opinion doesn't matter because we now - finally - have volunteers to manage the new section
repleo wrote:
but Linda, why do you question #2 as a landscape? How would you label it, if not a Landscape?...
That's an excellent question, Phil! I can accept the photo as landscape when offered no satisfactory alternative, but it still doesn't speak to me as well representing the "the vast outdoor spaces in the world" or even just "outdoor spaces" because I'm stuck on the importance of the mill as subject (I expanded on that earlier in this thread). Now I see why some discussion in dsmeltz's topic went into "landscape" vs. "scene." It's a scene!
But it's all moot as there are now several volunteers putting together the section - and their emphasis may be nothing like I offered in my own topic.
Thanks for making me think!
DWU2
Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
Linda From Maine wrote:
Apparently so. I'm holding out for #2 not being a landscape
Linda, is that because it features a man-made central subject? What, then, to do about urban landscapes?
DWU2 wrote:
Linda, is that because it features a man-made central subject? What, then, to do about urban landscapes?
The
subject (as I see it) is man-made, yes. The land is just "there" IMO.
Urban landscapes were mentioned in the draft as being acceptable for the new forum, but I'm not the moderator (others have accepted the challenge - yippee!).
Here is an old photo of mine I would classify as urban landscape, even though I have not yet read any references as to how the experts define
DWU2
Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
Linda From Maine wrote:
The
subject (as I see it) is man-made, yes. The land is just "there" IMO.
Urban landscapes were mentioned in the draft as being acceptable for the new forum, but I'm not the moderator (others have accepted the challenge - yippee!).
Here is an old photo of mine I would classify as urban landscape, even though I have not yet read any references as to how the experts define
It's hard to know where to draw the line. Although it's no blue-ribbon winner, what about this one, with landscape in foreground and urban in background?
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