Animal Auto Eye Focus?
Nov 26, 2018 16:18:35 #
Interesting concept, just wondering how well it will work and how far down the chain they can take this application? Sony recently announced at Photokina plans for their Eye AF that is currently limited to detecting human eyes, to also detect the eyes of animals. They gave a short demonstration of this working on birds and mammals, but provided no further details on whether or not it would be limited to certain types of animals....No concrete date was given for the support of Animal Eye AF. However it was mentioned that it may be coming in early 2019.... Guess if it works half as good as their current human eye AF technology does, it would be a definite benefit?????
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Nov 27, 2018 07:29:59 #
I have used the Eye AF on my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II when photographing ducks. It seemed to help, but I did not do any serious evaluation or comparison with regular AF.
Nov 27, 2018 08:31:27 #
Blaster34 wrote:
Sony recently announced at Photokina plans for their Eye AF that is currently limited to detecting human eyes, to also detect the eyes of animals.
I can see the potential for jokes here. Would this feature be especially useful for certain family members at group gatherings? If the "human eye" feature doesn't work on someone, does that indicate something about him?
Nov 27, 2018 08:32:41 #
I have had that idea since a number of cameras and phones had the feature for human eyes. It will have to be fast enough so probably not good for BIF right away. I assume the feature will extend over all of their higher end cameras?
Blaster34 wrote:
Interesting concept, just wondering how well it wi... (show quote)
Nov 27, 2018 09:38:41 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can see the potential for jokes here. Would this feature be especially useful for certain family members at group gatherings? If the "human eye" feature doesn't work on someone, does that indicate something about him?
LOL, Lots of options for that...
Nov 27, 2018 09:44:24 #
OllieFCR wrote:
I have had that idea since a number of cameras and phones had the feature for human eyes. It will have to be fast enough so probably not good for BIF right away. I assume the feature will extend over all of their higher end cameras?
BIF's, seems that might be a little complex right now but the technology will probably be developed. Higher end cameras? Auto Eye Focus is even now in some of the Sony Bridge cameras so I presume they'll also include this new technology as those develop, so they say. Technology keeps marching on and usually faster than we can keep up.
Nov 27, 2018 09:55:48 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Blaster34 wrote:
Interesting concept, just wondering how well it wi... (show quote)
For portraits photographers, wedding photographers, wildlife, yes. I have a Nikon D500 and D850, I use group auto focus which uses the center 16 spots or cross sections, Nikon shows you four squares in a group, as long as one of the four is on a bird in flight I am in sharp focus which includes the eye of the bird. Not so sure about using this focusing system for portraits, haven't tried it. But on wildlife, my keep rate once acquired is 98%. Nikon put a separate focusing engine in the D500, D850, and the D5. Focusing is much more accurate and quicker with this system. Nikon also has an eye priority system that focuses on the eye. Not sure it is comparable to the Sony system, only time will tell. The shot below was a grab shot, the Green Heron just showed up, I lifted the camera, put the group of four on the bird and opened up on it. Like I said, the focusing system on the new series of Nikon's is outstanding and has been well received by professionals around the world. There is a new sheriff in town, and his/her name is NIKON.
Nov 27, 2018 10:50:12 #
billnikon wrote:
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Superb picture Bill! Nice focus system and according to reports, equivalent to the Sony A9....not sure about the A9's EF system though, never handled one although reviews say the Sony EAF system is fantastic for portraits and weddings, especially when in the silent mode, hope it can be incorporated into animal eyes....New sheriff in town? Maybe, well at least until the next new Canon or Sony Sheriff arrives....technology continues to advance. Cheers..
Nov 27, 2018 12:13:56 #
Is this the same concept that Canon used in the A2E in the early 90's? If so it sucked in shooting sports and so so in everything else.
Nov 27, 2018 14:24:36 #
a6k
Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
FWIW, I recently took a few shots of one of our cats and since I had DMF and Peaking turned on I noticed that it did focus on her eye even though the spot (focus indicator) was mid-cat. I have not noticed this before and don't know how it would work with birds unless they were close.
RX10 m4.
RX10 m4.
Nov 27, 2018 14:34:04 #
gmango85 wrote:
Is this the same concept that Canon used in the A2E in the early 90's? If so it sucked in shooting sports and so so in everything else.
Dunno about the Canon A2E, it works fantastically in the Sony series with the AF system...obviously this one doesn't suck, its almost always spot on . As for animals, guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we!
Nov 27, 2018 14:37:03 #
a6k wrote:
FWIW, I recently took a few shots of one of our cats and since I had DMF and Peaking turned on I noticed that it did focus on her eye even though the spot (focus indicator) was mid-cat. I have not noticed this before and don't know how it would work with birds unless they were close.
RX10 m4.
RX10 m4.
Not sure either, just brought it up for discussion. Sony has been working the algorithms and technology, guess we'll see sometime time next year. I might try my 6500 on my wife's cats and see what happens...thanks, appreciate the info...cheers
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