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Nov 19, 2018 09:11:27   #
Senior Photog
 
Oh no, I was correcting MY error.
Anyone can hit a wrong key.

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Nov 19, 2018 09:18:44   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Senior Photog wrote:
Oh no, I was correcting MY error.
Anyone can hit a wrong key.


I get it, but my comment regarding AWFUL spelling, grammar, and syntax errors seen here still stands.
In some cases there have been posts that were so tangled I couldn't tell what the member was talking
about.Some people don't care, but my rule is to reread before clicking SEND. I invite all posters to try
this sometime. You'll be amazed at what you find. >Alan

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Nov 19, 2018 09:39:54   #
Senior Photog
 
I recently canceled my Face Book
account. It was MUCH worse on FB!

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Nov 19, 2018 10:34:14   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
That depends in my mind in "your style". I believe I have a "style", I take my pictures in my "Style" and because some like my style they buy my pictures. I guess it is called, picture style. What's wrong or correct, it is style. Other wise all pictures would look the same and the camera companies would have the camera automatically take the picture because the are capable of doing that in the cameras.

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Nov 19, 2018 10:44:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
camerapapi wrote:
Shooting landscapes it has been always customary to use a small lens opening so that everything from foreground to background is in focus. Using a larger aperture to blur the foreground is more selective focus than landscape photography.


If all photographers, or any kind of artist, only did what has always been "customary" art would never progress.

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Nov 19, 2018 13:56:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Senior Photog wrote:
Oh no, I was correcting MY error.
Anyone can hit a wrong key.


(Glad she's recovering!)

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Nov 19, 2018 14:22:45   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Isolating a subject in landscape photography can be tough. So much more in the scene can pull at the eye. Here's one example where I tried to isolate a waterfall. My eye still gets pulled around in the foreground. I should have opened my aperture more. In wildlife it's so much easier as the subject is Much Smaller than the scene.


Really like the waterfall. The foreground foliage framing would work in or out of focus. Bird Pic is so unusual - the Boket is pleasing. Both pics make a difference FOR their difference!

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Nov 19, 2018 14:42:54   #
wbchinook Loc: Everson WA
 
I found this article interesting. Don't know if it is relevant.

https://photographylife.com/landscapes/double-the-distance-method-explained?utm_source=Photography+Life+Newsletter&utm_campaign=889fcc8fb8-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_74d1711c3d-889fcc8fb8-184004721#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=double-the-distance-method-explained

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Nov 19, 2018 16:06:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Delderby wrote:
There is a school of thought that prefers a Landscape to be sharp from the nearest blade of grass in the foreground to the furthest distant hills in the background. I probably agree - but I find that more often lately my shots are not true Landscape but more Scene, with the subject likely to be middle ground. In such circumstance I find sharp foreground, and sometimes sharp background, can easily distract, and wish I could create a sort of “foreground boket” - but I put up with shortening the DOF which takes the eye straight to middle ground without looking for leading lines. This gives me the choice of sharp middle and background, or just sharp middle.
Not for dedicated pixel peepers rejoicing in sharpest detail, perhaps overlooking artistic intention?
There is a school of thought that prefers a Landsc... (show quote)



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Nov 19, 2018 17:26:52   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I disagree with the idea that everything HAS TO BE in sharp focus from foreground to background. I'll shoot f/2.8 in order to have my subject (usually in the foreground) in focus and the background out of focus. As far as I'm concerned, it's a landscape photo. Had I shot the scene at f/16 it would have been too busy and the subject would have been competing with the background. There are other times that I will shoot at f/16 in order to have the whole scene in focus (or at least most of it). I choose my aperture setting depending on what effect I'm seeking to achieve.

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Nov 19, 2018 18:09:23   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
My advice- Know the rules, know the nomenclature, familiarize yourself with the terms and slang that photographers use to communicate with each other but DON'T GET HUNG UP ON ANY OF IT! Sometimes the etymology gets too thick.

There is concept in photography called SELECTIVE FOCUS- that means you, as the photgraher get to select what is in focus and what is not. If you are out shooting "landscapes" and decide you want to do a photographic study of a single blade of grass or a pebble- that is your prerogative. Focus is one of tools you can use to isolate a subject or bring an entire vista into razor sharp accutance. OK- if you enter that pebble shot in a landscape contest, you may run into a snag or a panoramic landscape in a macro competition- well- you get it!

Also, while I am at it- there are so many misconceptions about aperture and depth of field especially when it comes to large format film photography of yore! True enough, some of the old view camera lenses were kinda slow- some of the famous ones were f/9.5 maximum aperture. So, their sweet spot kicked in on around f/16, however f/64 in many formulas was refraction hell. Introducing Captain Theodore Scheimpflug and his principle where by tilting the front standard of a view camera thereby altering the plane of focus the photographer can maxamize depth of field at more moderate apertures. A similar method could minimize D.O.F. even at smaller apertures. Image and perspective management is a big deal in large format work.

So..the most effective and impactful photographs usually make a clear statement. Again, you are the author and get to make whatever statement you would like to express. If you statement is very succinct and to the point, viewers may more easily understand its meaning. If it is abstract, more complex, chaotic, tense or unclear-well let the chips fall where the may. It's up to you- as an artist-you da bozz!

For me, as a commercial photographer it's different-SOMETIMES! Oftentimes I have to visually interpret someone else's statement. The client, the art director or the account executive becomes the arbiter of the image and I just sit back and become the technician. This is where categorization and specifics come into play. Someone else then decides what's in or out of focus, what needs to be emphasized, whether it is a close up detail shot or a wide view etc. It's more fun, for me, when the just throw the job at me and leave me to my own devices. Sometimes team efforts are enjoyably as well. Preconceived ideas can be a technical challenge but that's OK too.


Scene- Landscape?- no big difference to me. It's just when I am at Thanksgiving dinner and one of my obtuse relatives tee-me off, my wife doesn't say "don't make a landscape" she says "calm down and "don't make a scene!

Iconic photgraher Helmet Newton called some of his nude studies "landscapes"! So there you go!

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Nov 19, 2018 18:16:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
...when I am at Thanksgiving dinner and one of my obtuse relatives tee-me off, my wife doesn't say "don't make a landscape" she says "calm down and "don't make a scene!...
rotfl

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Nov 19, 2018 21:25:19   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
Senior Photog wrote:
Weston also used a roll film camera.
I believe it was larger than 6x7.
In his book he referred to depth of field.
That's what I always called it. I know termonology changes. Does anyone remember 'ASA' numbers? 😊


If it was roll film, it most likely 6 X 9 (2 1/4 X 3 1/4), as 6 X 7 was not even "thought of" back then.

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Nov 19, 2018 21:52:44   #
Senior Photog
 
Correct. I didn't say it was 6x7. I said it was larger than 6x7. I didn't remember
those other formats.

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Nov 20, 2018 00:10:38   #
Selene03
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's an interesting article on Foreground Bokeh:
https://fstoppers.com/education/complete-guide-epic-foreground-bokeh-102211

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Hi Linda from Maine, this was an interesting read!!! Thanks!

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