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Nov 18, 2018 14:24:40   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
tomcat wrote:
I do the same and cradle my lens in my palm. But this lens is heavy and attached to an even heavier D3s. So I have to take it from my eye and give my arms a rest. Sometimes in going back and forth cradling this beast, I am holding the whole shebang in various positions and my fingers or palm or etc will hit those switches and move them. A lot of times I find my shutter speed has also been changed by my thumb inadvertently hitting that evidently when I take the camera away from my eye and chimp (I shoot with shutter and aperture in manual). Alas, a klutz now in my old age....
I do the same and cradle my lens in my palm. But t... (show quote)


I know what you mean. I keep changing the focus point my right hand here of thumb. My lens switches is close to the body on my 55-200, so no problem on them.

I don't like the tape ideas. How about a piece of paper wrapped around with a rubber band?

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Nov 18, 2018 14:28:52   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
tomcat wrote:
It is indeed absolutely true. It happens more frequently now as I get older. Yesterday, I lost about 50 shots because the switch on the lens had been moved to manual---from A/M to M/A and thence to M. Only my Sigma lens has a very hard positive click.



Shame on Nikon!.

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Nov 18, 2018 15:19:27   #
User ID
 
tomcat wrote:
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by the day over my fumbling fingers. I have a problem with the switches on my Nikon 70-200mm lens barrel being moved off of the set points by my fingers. I often find that I have moved the A/M switch to the M position and 20 shots are OOF before I get a chance to chimp. Or I move the VR switch to off and again run off several exposures without VR on. I have thought of one final solution----superglue the darn things in place. But the next owner may not like that. Or get a huge rubber band to go around the barrel and cover access to those switches. I have seen some covers at B&H.

What do you do to prevent this?
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by th... (show quote)


I have actually glued switches ... to prevent tampering,
household type, not on a lens :-(

The heavy rubber bands DO work. They might seem
expensive at about $5 for a rubber band, but they do
actually earn their keep. Tape also works.

No offense intended, but I suggest you also work on
the awareness thing. OK, VR is not noticeable by eye,
but OOF ? Not seeing the AF activation and "OK" LED ?

Answers like "hectic action subjects", and "pressure
situation" will NOT fly. It's only pictures, or at most it's
only money. IOW, think of firefighters or combat GIs.
Hectic ? Pressure ? Yup, and life or death. People learn
to keep all the ducks in a row even under really trying
conditions. You are people, right ? You can do it.

One other thing that I do quite a bit of ... I increase
the visibility of control markings to avoid failures to
notice whether they have changed. I use nail polish,
in bold basic colors ... the cheapest, about $1 each.
Example:



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Nov 18, 2018 16:12:43   #
tomcat
 
User ID wrote:
I have actually glued switches ... to prevent tampering,
household type, not on a lens :-(

The heavy rubber bands DO work. They might seem
expensive at about $5 for a rubber band, but they do
actually earn their keep. Tape also works.

No offense intended, but I suggest you also work on
the awareness thing. OK, VR is not noticeable by eye,
but OOF ? Not seeing the AF activation and "OK" LED ?

Answers like "hectic action subjects", and "pressure
situation" will NOT fly. It's only pictures, or at most it's
only money. IOW, think of firefighters or combat GIs.
Hectic ? Pressure ? Yup, and life or death. People learn
to keep all the ducks in a row even under really trying
conditions. You are people, right ? You can do it.

One other thing that I do quite a bit of ... I increase
the visibility of control markings to avoid failures to
notice whether they have changed. I use nail polish,
in bold basic colors ... the cheapest, about $1 each.
Example:
I have actually glued switches ... to prevent tamp... (show quote)


When my granddaughter starts flying on the parallel bars and I start shooting, it's all that I can do to keep the AF target focus on her and keep her in focus. The routine is over in about 1-2 mins, so there's no time for chimping. I can't take my eye off of her long enough to hunt around the viewfinder looking for a green light. What I usually do is to turn on the beep so that I can hear if focus is locked. But that doesn't work in AF-C, so I have to rely on the camera auto-focusing on it's own. But it won't happen again because I got some gaffer tape and taped it down for now. Thanks for the reply, though. :))

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Nov 18, 2018 16:44:11   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
That's what gaffer tape was invented for!

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Nov 18, 2018 17:59:38   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Any tape, especially the Gorillas, will leave a sticky residue on the lens that will attract dust and crud. Might you work on training your fingers, as the easiest solution. Putting wide rubber bands on will protect the buttons, but won't those pesky fingers have something else to hassle.

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Nov 18, 2018 18:22:57   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tomcat wrote:
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by the day over my fumbling fingers. I have a problem with the switches on my Nikon 70-200mm lens barrel being moved off of the set points by my fingers. I often find that I have moved the A/M switch to the M position and 20 shots are OOF before I get a chance to chimp. Or I move the VR switch to off and again run off several exposures without VR on. I have thought of one final solution----superglue the darn things in place. But the next owner may not like that. Or get a huge rubber band to go around the barrel and cover access to those switches. I have seen some covers at B&H.

What do you do to prevent this?
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by th... (show quote)


Does this happen often? I've moved a lens switch by accident a few times over the years but it's so infrequent that it's not really an issue. If its happening a lot you may have to consider reviewing your camera and lens holding technique. I've never heard of this being a significant issue.

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Nov 18, 2018 19:03:41   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
tomcat wrote:
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by the day over my fumbling fingers. I have a problem with the switches on my Nikon 70-200mm lens barrel being moved off of the set points by my fingers. I often find that I have moved the A/M switch to the M position and 20 shots are OOF before I get a chance to chimp. Or I move the VR switch to off and again run off several exposures without VR on. I have thought of one final solution----superglue the darn things in place. But the next owner may not like that. Or get a huge rubber band to go around the barrel and cover access to those switches. I have seen some covers at B&H.

What do you do to prevent this?
Folks, I am getting more and more aggravated by th... (show quote)

Just check your lens settings before shooting, just like the camera before starting it up and keep the fingers away from the swithches, that should be a very easy thing to to! I never have my fingers near the switches when shooting! The only fingers that are always in place, are my thumb for the focus and one finger working the zoom ring!

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Nov 18, 2018 20:24:58   #
User ID
 
John_F wrote:


Any tape, especially the Gorillas, will leave a sticky
residue on the lens that will attract dust and crud. ........


Gaffer's tape is not just "any tape". If tape leaves sticky
residue all over a set, the best boy will have an unusual
problem cleaning up after his gaffer.

If a tape leaves sticky residue, it's not real gaffer's tape.


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Nov 18, 2018 20:34:54   #
User ID
 
amfoto1 wrote:

Yep. I have black gaffer tape on several lenses that
are prone to accidentally switching. I've done the
same on camera bodies, too, with switches that I
kept bumping (the mode dial on older Canon DSLRs
is one example.... later models have a lock and a
release button to prevent that).

Gaffer tape doesn't leave residue. (Electrical tape
and duct tape do.)


Just wanna say "Amen" to your recommended
choice of tape ... cuz reading the whole rest of
the thread, folks hereabouts seem to not know
shinola about tape :-(

FWIW, if you leave gaffer's tape to bake in the
summer sun for a few seasons, it will leave a
hardened white cement-like residue. I did use
it to permanently weather seal a truck cap but
then I chose to remove the cap when I junked
the truck ....

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Nov 18, 2018 20:50:53   #
tomcat
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Does this happen often? I've moved a lens switch by accident a few times over the years but it's so infrequent that it's not really an issue. If its happening a lot you may have to consider reviewing your camera and lens holding technique. I've never heard of this being a significant issue.


It has nothing to do with a "holding technique" when I'm shooting. The lens rests in the palm of my hand. The switches never get moved while I am shooting. It's when I am through shooting a particular gymnastics routine, rest up, and then go to the next routine. While I am holding, transporting and moving my heavy camera and lens around, my fingers, thumb, palm, whatever brush up against the switches and move them. The 70-200mm lens is 3.2 lb and the D3s is about 3.1 lb, so together I am holding and wielding about 6.3 lb and sometimes this involves cradling the lens while my arms are resting or walking around. When I lay the system down for a rest and then pick it back up, there is a chance that I hit a switch. I also shoot with a 200-500mm lens that never gives me a problem with the switches and their layout, so I am thinking that the 70-200mm lens is not ergonomically designed for me.

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Nov 18, 2018 21:01:47   #
tomcat
 
speters wrote:
Just check your lens settings before shooting, just like the camera before starting it up and keep the fingers away from the swithches, that should be a very easy thing to to! I never have my fingers near the switches when shooting! The only fingers that are always in place, are my thumb for the focus and one finger working the zoom ring!


You should try hand holding 6.3 lb of camera and lens for 3 hours of gymnastic exercise routines and you might find that you have to occasionally set the thing down to rest. When I pick it back up, I must be hitting those switches with my fingers because I have great technique while holding the beast during shooting. The lens barrel rests in the palm of my hand so I'm not moving them while shooting. It's the incidental contact while resting. Thanks for your suggestions though

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Nov 18, 2018 21:05:34   #
tomcat
 
User ID wrote:
Just wanna say "Amen" to your recommended
choice of tape ... cuz reading the whole rest of
the thread, folks hereabouts seem to not know
shinola about tape :-(

FWIW, if you leave gaffer's tape to bake in the
summer sun for a few seasons, it will leave a
hardened white cement-like residue. I did use
it to permanently weather seal a truck cap but
then I chose to remove the cap when I junked
the truck ....


right now, I'm doing the gaffer tape stuff until I can get those rubber bands in. I hope to never leave it in the sun!!
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Just wanna say "Amen" to your recommende... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2018 05:34:09   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
tomcat wrote:
It has nothing to do with a "holding technique" when I'm shooting. The lens rests in the palm of my hand. The switches never get moved while I am shooting. It's when I am through shooting a particular gymnastics routine, rest up, and then go to the next routine. While I am holding, transporting and moving my heavy camera and lens around, my fingers, thumb, palm, whatever brush up against the switches and move them. The 70-200mm lens is 3.2 lb and the D3s is about 3.1 lb, so together I am holding and wielding about 6.3 lb and sometimes this involves cradling the lens while my arms are resting or walking around. When I lay the system down for a rest and then pick it back up, there is a chance that I hit a switch. I also shoot with a 200-500mm lens that never gives me a problem with the switches and their layout, so I am thinking that the 70-200mm lens is not ergonomically designed for me.
It has nothing to do with a "holding techniqu... (show quote)

This sounds different from your original post, from which I understood you were accidently moving the switches while shooting. Since you now say that is not the case I have to wonder, what is physically preventing you from resetting them when you start shooting again?

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Nov 19, 2018 08:27:06   #
tomcat
 
Leitz wrote:
This sounds different from your original post, from which I understood you were accidently moving the switches while shooting. Since you now say that is not the case I have to wonder, what is physically preventing you from resetting them when you start shooting again?


Nothing physically is preventing me, ha. Just too many MRIs in the past couple of years I suppose is making me scatter-brained. In my earlier post, I guess when I said "moving switches while shooting", I was referring to the entire action of picking up the camera/lens, holding it to my eye, then stopping while waiting for my granddaughter to start, and then resting my arms between sets. So somewhere along the way, I am moving them. So I could indeed check them if I physically would go through the act of reviewing them before shooting, but again, I'm not sure when this actually occurs. As several posters have pointed out, it is aggravating that Nikon would design them to be so easily moved. I have a Sigma and Tamron and both of these lenses have more resistant switches. On some occasion, I have noticed that my shutter speed is moved from 1/500 to 1/640, so my fingers do move all over when I am holding this beastly rig. It's just a combination of the ungainly center of gravity and me. So I need the physical restrains from moving these switches and I think the gaffer tape will help right now. I ordered some of those large rubber bands and I'll try those. Thanks for your suggestions and concern; I do appreciate them.

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