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Nov 16, 2018 13:10:39   #
patman1 Loc: Pataskala, Ohio
 
All good advice, but what do you do if you cant make contact, we all no that GPS and cell phones loose signals all the time especially if you off the beaten path. Being ex army whenever im going into wooded or mountain areas, beside carrying my cell phone, always carry a compass, will always get you home, small easy to carry. In the event i come across dubious chacters I always travel with my dog, fends off bad ppl as well as other animals out there.

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Nov 16, 2018 13:21:13   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
RWebb76 wrote:
You bring up quite a few issues in a short post. One of your concerns is falling, summoning help, etc. I carry a cellphone and back up battery pack. (It also has a small flashlight on it.) I also carry the Garmin inReach GPS system (because quite often I am in the hills where there is no cell coverage) which has an SOS capability and the ability to send txt messages via satellite. I have used the system several times include in foreign countries and at sea (fishing when our communications systems were out.) I cannot recommend it enough. I think Garmin just published they had their 3000th save via inReach SOS.

I like photographing with other people, so I belong to a photo club where we have outings. I also suggest you consider using the Meetup App which may have photo outings near you. We use it for hiking and a host of other meetups. It can be a lot of fun. Having other people around will certainly give you a sense of comfort.

As far as being robbed, in spite of flippant one liner rhetoric by town-taming gun slingers or the anti-gun crowd folks, carrying a gun is an option. 35 years of law enforcement in a big city, I have some experience. But carrying a gun is a huge responsibility that exposes one to potential liability, possibly added danger, etc. I wish I had a dollar for every time someone told me their dad taught them to shoot. My dad taught me to throw a football, but not necessarily play the game. When gun-play is at hand it requires not only firearms proficiency, but tactical proficiency and a survival mindset that not everyone has. In short, it is a huge decision that I think far too many people take lightly. The use of lesser weapons, such as pepper (OC) spray is a viable option. It may deter an attacker, a vicious dog and will not inflict a fatal wound on you if you are disarmed. Again, you have to practice and pre-plan for its use.

If someone were to rob (take by force or fear) me of my camera gear, I would allow them to take it if I were not in jeopardy of serious injury or death. Same thing with invasions into my home. We plan on barricading ourselves in a bedroom, calling the police and allowing the bad guys to take what they want. They threaten us, then obviously the scenario has changed and deadly force is an option.

Someone mentioned carrying a 2nd wallet. I do that in foreign countries in case of pickpockets, street robberies, etc. So far, not takers. I have those bogus credit cards from mail offers and a few dollars and foreign money in the wallet.

I have traveled widely, and walked many parts that were somewhat sketchy. I am always pleasantly surprised that most people are nice and respectful. To live in fear is a terrible thing. Prepare for potential bad situations, properly equip yourself, place some faith in the fact that most people are good and have some faith in a higher authority (if you are of that belief.) Go have fun with photography.
You bring up quite a few issues in a short post. ... (show quote)


Great comments, particularly about the responsibilities of carrying and using a fire arm. I wish all the uninformed anti-gun loonies and the gun totin' cowboy wannabees would read and heed these comments---but probably won't cuz they don't fit their pre-conceived, ill-informed concepts of an actual situation.

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Nov 16, 2018 16:27:25   #
hcmcdole
 
Angmo wrote:
Ouch! How’s the wife doing today?


She is hobbling around in her Ortho-Boot (looks like half a storm trooper with just one boot on). She is hoping to be cleared to wear shoes next week but the surgeon will determine if she is ready to graduate to the next level.

We visited the fire station earlier today and gave them some gift certificates as an appreciation gift. It was good to talk to them under different circumstances than the first time when she was yelling in pain.

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Nov 16, 2018 17:19:10   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
RWebb76 wrote:
You bring up quite a few issues in a short post. One of your concerns is falling, summoning help, etc. I carry a cellphone and back up battery pack. (It also has a small flashlight on it.) I also carry the Garmin inReach GPS system (because quite often I am in the hills where there is no cell coverage) which has an SOS capability and the ability to send txt messages via satellite. I have used the system several times include in foreign countries and at sea (fishing when our communications systems were out.) I cannot recommend it enough. I think Garmin just published they had their 3000th save via inReach SOS.

I like photographing with other people, so I belong to a photo club where we have outings. I also suggest you consider using the Meetup App which may have photo outings near you. We use it for hiking and a host of other meetups. It can be a lot of fun. Having other people around will certainly give you a sense of comfort.

As far as being robbed, in spite of flippant one liner rhetoric by town-taming gun slingers or the anti-gun crowd folks, carrying a gun is an option. 35 years of law enforcement in a big city, I have some experience. But carrying a gun is a huge responsibility that exposes one to potential liability, possibly added danger, etc. I wish I had a dollar for every time someone told me their dad taught them to shoot. My dad taught me to throw a football, but not necessarily play the game. When gun-play is at hand it requires not only firearms proficiency, but tactical proficiency and a survival mindset that not everyone has. In short, it is a huge decision that I think far too many people take lightly. The use of lesser weapons, such as pepper (OC) spray is a viable option. It may deter an attacker, a vicious dog and will not inflict a fatal wound on you if you are disarmed. Again, you have to practice and pre-plan for its use.

If someone were to rob (take by force or fear) me of my camera gear, I would allow them to take it if I were not in jeopardy of serious injury or death. Same thing with invasions into my home. We plan on barricading ourselves in a bedroom, calling the police and allowing the bad guys to take what they want. They threaten us, then obviously the scenario has changed and deadly force is an option.

Someone mentioned carrying a 2nd wallet. I do that in foreign countries in case of pickpockets, street robberies, etc. So far, not takers. I have those bogus credit cards from mail offers and a few dollars and foreign money in the wallet.

I have traveled widely, and walked many parts that were somewhat sketchy. I am always pleasantly surprised that most people are nice and respectful. To live in fear is a terrible thing. Prepare for potential bad situations, properly equip yourself, place some faith in the fact that most people are good and have some faith in a higher authority (if you are of that belief.) Go have fun with photography.
You bring up quite a few issues in a short post. ... (show quote)


Very well said. Thank you for this.

Mike

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Nov 16, 2018 17:30:36   #
Angmo
 
hcmcdole wrote:
She is hobbling around in her Ortho-Boot (looks like half a storm trooper with just one boot on). She is hoping to be cleared to wear shoes next week but the surgeon will determine if she is ready to graduate to the next level.

We visited the fire station earlier today and gave them some gift certificates as an appreciation gift. It was good to talk to them under different circumstances than the first time when she was yelling in pain.


Great news. Best of luck! The most remote I had been was the Himalaya Mountains. They run east west. I trekked from south through them to the north.

The Photography Monster needs frequent feeding! Never got hurt but there, if you get hurt out there can take days for someone to get help to you. GPS signal would be helpful but helicopters in Nepal won’t fly unless you show them the money.

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Nov 16, 2018 19:21:48   #
hcmcdole
 
Angmo wrote:
Great news. Best of luck! The most remote I had been was the Himalaya Mountains. They run east west. I trekked from south through them to the north.

The Photography Monster needs frequent feeding! Never got hurt but there, if you get hurt out there can take days for someone to get help to you. GPS signal would be helpful but helicopters in Nepal won’t fly unless you show them the money.


We were in Thailand earlier this summer. Cut myself on some barnacle encrusted rocks but a little blood never hurt anyone. I have a couple nasty scars to show for this trip. HAHA!

Be careful out there in the remote areas - hopefully, help would get to you in time (days might be a tad too long). At least the cold should keep you comfortably numb?

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Nov 17, 2018 16:46:06   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
lev29 wrote:
Pepper spray sounds like a good idea in a compact form and I don’t believe a state permit is required anywhere! Besides, as those Hogs who are NRA members would point out, just like their revered POTUS reiterated in commenting on that Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting, "If an armed guard had been, this shooting could’ve been avoided."

Isn’t he wise? So there you go, JHS, just hire an armed bodyguard and you’re sure to be okay ... unless, of course, you and the guard are surprised by an armed criminal, and then you’ll just be dead anyway.

If permitted, how about carrying mace around with you, or maybe a Tazer? No, that’s probably insufficient. And a .357 peashooter? Why stop there? Bring an Uzi or a bazooka with you. That’s the ticket!

Seriously, JHS, I suggest you do what I do: keep a charged cellphone with you and don’t visit neighborhoods alone where thugs lurk, no ifs, ands, or buts. Sure beats packing heat!
Pepper spray sounds like a good idea in a compact ... (show quote)


Just watched a video of three guys beat up an older guy took his car and his phone.
A 357 is more than enough but a much smaller lighter 380 is much more practical and easy to use. A cell phone will not help, maybe to call an ambulance if they don't take it also.

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Nov 17, 2018 17:02:18   #
lbrande
 
MauiMoto wrote:
Just watched a video of three guys beat up an older guy took his car and his phone.
A 357 is more than enough but a much smaller lighter 380 is much more practical and easy to use. A cell phone will not help, maybe to call an ambulance if they don't take it also.


Use the cellphone as a weapon...edge first into the neck. I'm more concerned in that there is a video, but no assistance for the gentlemen.

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Nov 17, 2018 19:08:42   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
lbrande wrote:
Use the cellphone as a weapon...edge first into the neck. I'm more concerned in that there is a video, but no assistance for the gentlemen.


Absolutely! I have seen plenty of cellphone footage where people choose to get a video instead of assist. This last one I just saw was surveillance camera footage released for the public to identify the criminals. These are of course mostly in gun free zones where criminals run amok with little to no risk of an armed victim, sorry no such thing as an unarmed victim, but you get the gist.

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