Lumix G9 or Nikon D500?
Nov 14, 2018 12:35:49 #
Cdouthitt wrote:
DSLR people will tell you to get the d500. Mirrorless people will tell you to get the G9.
What we need are responses from people who have both.
Nov 14, 2018 17:34:31 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Bill Koepsel wrote:
Looking for a new camera. Any ideas on which one would be better? A camera which might do birds and landscapes equally as good?
Bill
Bill
Nikon hit a home run for birds in flight photography with the pairing of the D500 and the 200-500 mm f5.6 lens. Just read the reviews, they speak for themselves. I am currently at a keeper rate of 98% and have not looked back. I sold my Nikon 200-400 f4 and 300 2.8 because this combo was soooooooooooooooo much better. I have included some grab shots taken with the 200-500.
And, the 200-500 is currently on sale and Adorama is throwing in a free Manfrotto tripod, what a sweet deal.
https://www.adorama.com/l/?searchinfo=nikon+200-500mm+f%2f5.6
Nov 14, 2018 18:46:17 #
I just ordered the Nikon 200 mm to 500 mm on your recommendation. Hope you haven't steered me wrong. 98% keeper rate???
Nov 14, 2018 18:48:45 #
How's it do on large prints ?
HardwareGuy wrote:
I am into my second month with my G9 after having ... (show quote)
Nov 14, 2018 19:34:41 #
Screamin Scott wrote:
How's it do on large prints ?
If you’ve never made a 40x30 from a full Micro 4/3 image, you’re in for a pleasant surprise.
Remember, your full HDTV is 1920x1080 pixels (<2.1MP), and a 60” HDTV screen looks fine from 5-8 feet away.
A 4K TV is 3840x2160 pixels (<8.3MP). You can view a 60” 4K screen from 30” away, and it will look gorgeous.
If you pixel peep any print from any affordable format, you can find something you might not like. If you view it from 1 - 1.5 times its diagonal measurement, the “normal” viewing distance, chances are, it will look fine.
I ran a large format digital print operation in a professional lab for several years. We made thousands of prints from 16x20” up to 40x60” from surprisingly small files (8.2MP to 12.1MP). They looked quite nice from that diagonal distance.
Nov 14, 2018 20:36:49 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Retired CPO wrote:
I just ordered the Nikon 200 mm to 500 mm on your recommendation. Hope you haven't steered me wrong. 98% keeper rate???
The photographer makes the lens, a lens never made a photographer.
I use GROUP AUTO FOCUS, continuous auto focus, center weighted metering, aperture priority at 7.1 or 8, minimum shutter speed of 1/1500 sec. for anything moving. 1/2000 sec. is better.
Nov 14, 2018 20:56:44 #
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Having a certain size sensor required increasing ISO ?
And in particular becuz it was a small sensor ? Could
you clarify or expand on that ?
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Deanie1113 wrote:
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a very lightweight system that I loved, HOWEVER,
since it was a MFT, I had to bump up my ISO all the
time and it was annoying.............
a very lightweight system that I loved, HOWEVER,
since it was a MFT, I had to bump up my ISO all the
time and it was annoying.............
Having a certain size sensor required increasing ISO ?
And in particular becuz it was a small sensor ? Could
you clarify or expand on that ?
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Nov 14, 2018 21:18:04 #
User ID wrote:
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Having a certain size sensor required increasing ISO ?
And in particular becuz it was a small sensor ? Could
you clarify or expand on that ?
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Having a certain size sensor required increasing ISO ?
And in particular becuz it was a small sensor ? Could
you clarify or expand on that ?
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Yeah, that’s BS or a misunderstanding. If anything, you use a LOWER ISO —
> to avoid noise
> because Dual IS 2 provides up to six stops of shake reduction, allowing lower ISO or slower speeds, or some of both
> because you can get more depth of field at a wider f/stop because you’re using a shorter focal length for the same field of view you had on a larger format
> because you can use f/0.95 to f/1.2 maximum aperture lenses wide open to one stop down on Micro 4/3 with excellent results.
Nov 14, 2018 21:22:34 #
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, that’s BS or a misunderstanding. If anything... (show quote)
Not for fast moving subjects.
Nov 14, 2018 22:01:30 #
AlohaBob
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
I'm not a birder, so can't speak to that. I also have never used a D500. I have a G9 - switched from Sony. I shoot basketball with it (my son is a college coach) and portraits. From all I've read, both the D500 and Sony A7iii would do a better job of sports shooting. I don't care. I love my G9; it's fun and it's a much better camera than I am a photographer so it doesn't limit me in any way. My only complaint is noise at 6400 and above, but the advantages far outweigh that for me. Oddly enough it and the Pentax K1 feel better in my fairly large hands of other camera I've ever tried.
Nov 14, 2018 22:35:21 #
tdekany wrote:
Not for fast moving subjects.
True. But not everyone photographs fast action.
For many subjects, the difference between 1/(2x the focal length) for a shutter speed (without Dual IS 2) and 1/(half the focal length) or 1/(a quarter of the focal length) for a shutter speed (with Dual IS 2) will still be fast enough to stop moderate subject movement without camera shake.
If you test a G9 at ISO 3200 against a D500 at ISO 6400 and a D5 at ISO 12,800, you’ll see very similar results when you pixel peep images of the exact same subjects taken with lenses that provide the same field of view.
IF that matters to you, act accordingly. Life is full of little trade-offs. Maybe you need the weight reduction. Maybe you need the low light performance. The good thing is, we can choose. The bad thing is, we have to!
Nov 15, 2018 20:25:50 #
Strodav wrote:
The OP wants to shoot birds, which generally calls for a sharp, long, zoom, which can easily cost more than the camera body. So, I believe the reply I provided was completely appropriate as he will have to do some research of birding glass in addition to a body. How much I spend on my gear is my business, no need for any confessions to anyone with the possible exception of my wife.
Remember than the 2x crop of the G9 gives better reach than the 1.5x crop of the D500 for birding.
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