deepdiverv Loc: arizona

Photos from my D850 and 200-500mm nikon lens

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Lens recommendations for theD850.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/5585760175/nikon-releases-official-d850-lens-recommendation-list
http://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/the-d850-blog/the-best-lenses-for-the.html
http://cameratimes.org/best-lenses-nikon-d850/

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

I have the D850 and here is what I have found. There is little room for error. Make sure your shutter speed is high enough and use good glass.

I had the 200-400 and found it to be inadequate on the D850 while fine on my D5. I ended up trading it in for the 180-400 and there was a significant improvement.

The D850 produces stellar results but is very unforgiving. You bought a pro camera, pair it with pro glass.

Having said that, it really depends on what you will be shooting. Action, sports, wildlife, you may be disappointed. Still life on a tripod, you may be ok.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

richardsaccount

The assumption that because of the large megapixel count of the Nikon D850 sensor, a super sharp lens is required.
This was started by Nikon. They want to sell as many very expensive and often less solidly constructed (than earlier Nikkor lenses) as they can.

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

I quote Madeline Kahn in Young Frankenstein, “It’s Twue, It’s Twue!”
Better the glass, the better the results.

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

I am sure you are referring to the Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR. From what I know because I have not used the lens it is a very good quality sharp lens to use in ANY Nikon body.

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

To clarify...my comments are specifically around the 200-500mm f5.6 zoom. The OP identified it when he stated the price as $1300, even though he had erroneously called it an f4.

And Bob...your question is around sharpness. Others have commented about weathersealing, which is valid. Since this is an "extending" zoom, it must by design draw air (and by extension whatever is in the air) into itself each time you zoom to the longer focal lengths. So you do need to consider whether it will work well over the long haul in the environments where you plan to use it

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

While it does not "require" new lenses, a lens with higher resolution capability will look better on a higher mp camera. A good lens will not look any better on a high mp camera, but an amazingly sharp lens will definitely look better on a high mp camera.

The DXO Mark score is often misunderstood. A 28-300 records a P-mpx of 7, 10 and 11 on a 12 mp D3, a 24 mp D600 and a 36 mp D810. The lens isn't any sharper on the D810 than it is on a D3.

On a D3, with a score of 7 p-mpx, the lens will take advantage of 58% of the 12 mp - or put another way, it would behave like a "perfect" lens on a 7 mp camera.

On a D600, at 10 p-mpx - it will only use 42% of the camera's 24 mp, and on a D810, a score of 11 only utilizes 32% of the pixels in the camera.

On the other hand, a lens like a Zeiss APO Sonnar T 135 F2 will show 12 mp on a D3, 22mp on a D600, and 35 on a D810.

The 28-300 lens isn't any sharper, really, on the 36 mp body compared to the 12 mp body - but the lens is a better fit for the lower mp body. The 135 F2 is as close to a perfect lens as you can get - showing scores of 12, 22 and 35 p-mpx on the trio of cameras.

The Zeiss lens is so sharp that it seems to come close to exceeding the resolution of the 36 mp D810 - utilizing 97% of the camera's resolution, while the 28-300 is a complete dud at using only 32%.

There is no question that the sharper lens will return far better results on a high mp camera. These two links provide some good information on which lenses work well with the D850.

http://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/the-d850-blog/the-best-lenses-for-the.html

http://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/the-d850-blog/more-about-appropriate-d850.html

And this is a great explanation of what P-mpx actually means and how to use it.

https://petapixel.com/2012/12/17/perceptual-megapixel-mtf-charts-boiled-down-to-a-single-number/

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Yes, but why do they want to sell sharper lenses?

Because the newer sharper lenses will better show off the camera's exceptional resolution. After all, buying a 28-300 (my favorite dog to kick) for a D850 is like buying cheap narrow tires for your Bugatti. It just doesn't make sense. Do you really disagree that sharper lenses will perform better on higher MP cameras?

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

It's not a wonder camera. And those who say it is, could you show a 300-400% crop instead of the full frame shot.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

And as good as these are, imagine how much better they would be with a 400mmF2.8 or the new 500mmF4!

larryepage Loc: North Texas area

If you look at it by rows and columns, there are just about 11% more rows of pixels in the sensor of the D850 than in the sensor of the D810. And each row has about 11% more pixels. This is not a huge difference by any means. Resolution of the D850 is not "revolutionary" compared to the D810 or D800. There is absolutely no technically supportable reason to be panicking today over what lenses will work. The same parameters that have been relevant for the past 5 or 6 years are still appropriate today.

As I've stated before, I use both a D810 and a D850. They produce very similar results, except that the D850 seems to have slightly better dynamic range at high ISOs. I have a friend who was on assignment for National Geographic this past spring and summer. He also has both a D810 and D850, and created a number of large prints from his assignment. Unless he were to tell you which body he used, I'd challenge anyone to identify which body was used to capture which image.

There is no question that the D850 is a fine camera. I do not yet have any reason to believe that it is inherently any finer than the D810.

It seems to me that we may need to just slow down, take a deep breath, and turn loose of at least some of the hype and worry.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

How sharp is sharp enough? Most human eyes can only resolve to a certain point. And most lenses exceed that resolving power. So unless you are going to use magnification, print posters, or crop minute areas of the frame, most every modern lens will deliver images that are sharp to human vision.

art pear Loc: North Dakota

That lens is great with the 850.