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Oct 18, 2018 09:15:45   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Even f/22 would not get everything in focus on that subject at that distance.

Mike

There was no EXIF data or information on the lens used and it is not clear to me how close the lens was to the subject or even whether the image was cropped. If it was a macro lens and he was extremely close I would certainly agree. Barring any detailed information though I would not assume out of hand that the whole image could not have been taken in focus.

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Oct 18, 2018 09:35:18   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
Generally I liked the photo but see where you are concerned. I think it should be flipped which I did and think it made a difference in its perception. When I was learning composition drawing the eye from lower left to upper right was highly recommended. Hope you didn't mind with my adjustment of your photo. If you do I apologize. See the attached photo.



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Oct 18, 2018 10:26:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
MCHUGH wrote:
Generally I liked the photo but see where you are concerned. I think it should be flipped which I did and think it made a difference in its perception. When I was learning composition drawing the eye from lower left to upper right was highly recommended. Hope you didn't mind with my adjustment of your photo. If you do I apologize. See the attached photo.


To me, this simple change makes a significant difference making the keep / delete decision more difficult.

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Oct 18, 2018 10:33:10   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
Congratulations for experimenting and discussing your (no doubt) increasing knowledge of photo composition and exposure, very unlike those among us who use "auto" exclusively. I hope your journey into our wonderful and creative art will continue to inspire real thinking and experimentation, as you have demonstrated in your leaf photo. Good luck.

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Oct 18, 2018 13:25:00   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
I've viewed your leif photo both in my browser, and in a viewer program I have. I feel this photo is of no value, as you have pointed out the focus point is way off to make it even a artistic shot in any way. First, you have stripped the EXIF data from the shot. This action tells me alot about your motive for submitting this shot to the member of UHH. What are you trying to accomplish with this shot? Are you trying to find a market for this type of photography? You need to think about the physics of photography when trying accomplish a marketable artistic shot. How do you think this would look blown up to a large print? The out of focus area would be accented, and the "in focus" part would be minimal. The Leif is a small subject in its self, and the grains of sand are not the subject of the photo. You need to work on getting the entire lief, and sand in focus.

B

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Oct 18, 2018 13:30:13   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
mwsilvers wrote:
There was no EXIF data or information on the lens used and it is not clear to me how close the lens was to the subject or even whether the image was cropped. If it was a macro lens and he was extremely close I would certainly agree. Barring any detailed information though I would not assume out of hand that the whole image could not have been taken in focus.


Ah, yes. Right you are. It could have been severely cropped.

By the way, from reading another post by the same person, I think this was taken with a cell phone.

Mike

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Oct 18, 2018 13:44:03   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
I've viewed your leif photo both in my browser, and in a viewer program I have. I feel this photo is of no value, as you have pointed out the focus point is way off to make it even a artistic shot in any way. First, you have stripped the EXIF data from the shot. This action tells me alot about your motive for submitting this shot to the member of UHH. What are you trying to accomplish with this shot? Are you trying to find a market for this type of photography? You need to think about the physics of photography when trying accomplish a marketable artistic shot. How do you think this would look blown up to a large print? The out of focus area would be accented, and the "in focus" part would be minimal. The Leif is a small subject in its self, and the grains of sand are not the subject of the photo. You need to work on getting the entire lief, and sand in focus.

B
I've viewed your leif photo both in my browser, an... (show quote)


I think that we should assume that this new member is sincerely trying to learn. Why speculate about their motive?

How would one go about getting the entire leaf and sand in focus, do you suppose, while filling the frame? Stacking is the only way I would attempt to achieve that, and that would not necessarily be the best approach anyway. The OP is a newbie here using a cell phone and has not been able to purchase their first camera yet, I believe.

"Leaf." It is a picture of a leaf, not of a "lief." Spellcheck strikes again, since "lief" is actually a word in English, although it is archaic. It is an adverb meaning "gladly." I would lief go on, but I think I have said enough already.

Let's welcome and encourage new members.

Mike

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Oct 18, 2018 14:29:32   #
Anhanga Brasil Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil
 
mwsilvers wrote:
No EXIF data so we can't tell what your aperture was set to. I'm guessing that f/5.6 to f/8 would have kept everything in focus. As it is, the blurred foreground and stem doesn't create the leading lines it needs to draw the viewer's eyes to the grains of sand. As a result, the blurred part of the leaf is a distraction.


IIRC, UHH will delete EXIF on every thumbnail images by default, unless
the OP select the "Store Original" option.
Since all of those pages are easily found on the WWW, non-members will
not have access to the EXIF by "Save image as..." option with the mouse's
right button.
Tried in other thumbs and got no EXIF.
Just a FYI.
Sorry for disturbing the flow of the discussion.

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Oct 18, 2018 16:42:32   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
I think that we should assume that this new member is sincerely trying to learn. Why speculate about their motive?

How would one go about getting the entire leaf and sand in focus, do you suppose, while filling the frame? Stacking is the only way I would attempt to achieve that, and that would not necessarily be the best approach anyway. The OP is a newbie here using a cell phone and has not been able to purchase their first camera yet, I believe.

"Leaf." It is a picture of a leaf, not of a "lief." Spellcheck strikes again, since "lief" is actually a word in English, although it is archaic. It is an adverb meaning "gladly." I would lief go on, but I think I have said enough already.

Let's welcome and encourage new members.

Mike
I think that we should assume that this new member... (show quote)


Yes of course...welcome. However, there are among the hoggers those that do background checks on prior postings. Then with "lief" hold you to task and bring wrath and shame to your posting. Her name escapes me for the moment.

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Oct 18, 2018 17:30:09   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
I would have liked to see the whole leaf in focus. Just my opinion.

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Oct 18, 2018 18:35:30   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Sorry, but this is a shot that would have been deleted if I had taken it. Not interesting to me.

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Oct 18, 2018 19:34:35   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
A study of decay...a decomposition if you will...belongs in the compost heap
hassighedgehog wrote:
Sorry, but this is a shot that would have been deleted if I had taken it. Not interesting to me.

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