Bipod wrote:
That's great if its true. But businesses can only do what is financially feasible and
what their investors or stockholders will tolerate.
It's not plausible that a company in Sony's financial situation (and with Sony's focus on
consumer products) spending this much money on a development project that will take 20
years to yield a consumer product and to pay back the investment. Sony cannot afford that.
Stockholders wouldn't stand for it: as soon as word got out, there would be a revolt.
There is another interpretation: this sensor was intended to be the NEXT BIG THING in
digital cameras---but failed to achieve the required image quality. So selling it for industrial
use only is a way to salvage something from the failed project.
You know how sometimes a farmer's melon crop is hit by an early frost and has to be sold as
pig feed? That may be what's happening here. It makes more business sense than your
interpretation. In a public company, the pressure on managment to increase earnings is extreme.
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You don't understand or know how Sony works. Relax, it wont be 20 years, maybe two or three at the most, and when they release it in a camera it will be ready. Your speculation about problems and pressure to make money on this are way over exaggerated . Man , I have been accused of being over-winded, but you take the cake for over reaction to a post. You would make your points clearer without all the hyperbole and exposition. Cheers
Don't get all huffy. I just diasgreed with you.
If you're sure about that, Sony stock SNE closed today at 56.10,
down -1.87 (-3.23%). It's down from its 52 week high of 61.2.
But it's done well over the last five years--might be a bargain.
Or maybe the market knows something you don't know.
Bipod wrote:
Don't get all huffy. I just diasgreed with you.
If you're sure about that, Sony stock SNE closed today at 56.10,
down -1.87 (-3.23%). It's down from its 52 week high of 61.2.
But it's done well over the last five years--might be a bargain.
Or maybe the market knows something you don't know.
Hi pod!! Do you actually take pictures or do you just yack about it?
gwilliams6 wrote:
You don't understand or know how Sony works. Relax, it wont be 20 years, maybe two or three at the most, and when they release it in a camera it will be ready. Your speculation about problems and pressure to make money on this are way over exaggerated . Man , I have been accused of being over-winded, but you take the cake for over reaction to a post. You would make your points clearer without all the hyperbole and exposition. Cheers
Naw, you’re still the CHAMP!!! LoL
And King fanboy too!
In camera tech, 2-3 years IS 20 years !!!
Better only be a year!
SS
SharpShooter wrote:
Naw, you’re still the CHAMP!!! LoL
And King fanboy too!
In camera tech, 2-3 years IS 20 years !!!
Better only be a year!
SS
Ha ha, just get over it all you Nikon and Canon fanboys until you have better mirrorless gear. Maybe next generation. Cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeFBVWHtuX4FANBOYS Cripple Innovation! (Dave McKeegan)
gwilliams6 wrote:
FANBOYS Cripple Innovation! (Dave McKeegan)
If that's true you'll single handedly have Sony stuck in place in no time at all. Too bad, they might do well if you switch brands.
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Bill_de wrote:
If that's true you'll single handedly have Sony stuck in place in no time at all. Too bad, they might do well if you switch brands.
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It was meant more for fanboys of poorer quality competition like the current Nikon and Canon mirrorless releases who cant face the reality that their fav brands are ever second-best, even for an instant. Cheers
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Nalu
Loc: Southern Arizona
When you are shooting slow moving subjects like bicycle riders, you don't need a fast camera like an A9.
SharpShooter wrote:
That’s right guys, I’m looking for all those mirrorless cameras and haven’t seen one yet! I’m talking about serious cameras, not little toy 4/3’s!
I’m on assignment at Laguna Seca(bicycle races) and there are 250 official photographers here. Been here two days and haven’t seen a mirrorless yet. To be honest, haven’t seen a Nikon either!!! LoL
ALL Canons and mostly 70-200’s.
So where are all those mirrorless cameras? If you know where to find them, please let all of us that never see them, know!!!?
On Sunday I shoot the dual slalom event. It has the most photographers.
Maybe I’ll see one on Sunday? Maybe!?! I’ll cross my fingers and keep you posted! LoL
SS
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I shoot Canon, but I can see the potential for mirrorless whether it's Sony, Canon, Nikon or something else. It's evolving. I think the reason for many of not switching is they are married and committed to their systems because they're heavily invested into their lenses. Also some agencies provide the big pricey lenses to their photographers. Another reason for not changing yet is photographers can still get great images with what they already have. Mirrorless may not dominate the pro market now, but it's coming. That's progress and evolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rn04Zsc4_4Video replay of yesterday's great three-way Live Youtube discussion with top pro-shooter/reviewers Photo-Me-Ike (Nikon shooter), That1cameraguy (Canon and Sony shooter and photo educator) and David Oastler (former Nikon now Sony shooter).
They discuss Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Sigma and more. One hour, 30 minutes. Enjoy, Cheers
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
gwilliams6 wrote:
... They discuss Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji, Panasonic, Sigma and more. One hour, 30 minutes. Enjoy, Cheers
No summary for those of us who don't want to spend 90 minutes on YouTube?
skingfong wrote:
I shoot Canon, but I can see the potential for mirrorless whether it's Sony, Canon, Nikon or something else. It's evolving. I think the reason for many of not switching is they are married and committed to their systems because they're heavily invested into their lenses. Also some agencies provide the big pricey lenses to their photographers. Another reason for not changing yet is photographers can still get great images with what they already have. Mirrorless may not dominate the pro market now, but it's coming. That's progress and evolution.
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Skin, I’m not disagreeing with you. It probably IS coming. Then again, so was Sony Beta, the bigger, better mouse trap.
And from what little I’ve seen, looks like ML is great for landscapers and slow moving events. In still-shots one can take advantage of the myriad of functions built into the view finder.
But for very fast action most of those advantages seem to be less effective. If they were half the size would be really cool but they’re not. A 400mm 2.8 lens on a FF is still just that, a big heavy lens.
A lot of options in a camera to accomplish the same thing won’t make the final image better.
A big advantage will be when they start to build in graduated filters and such, but if those things are built into a sensor or a processor won’t make a lot of difference either.
I’m not impressed by do-dads. Like I said, I don’t need 50 ways to take the same photo if I’m getting the same results!!!
I’m seeing more ML cameras in BLOGS than in the field. It seems my events aren’t big enough for ML!!! LoL
SS
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