Morning light versus evening light
Oct 13, 2018 14:08:45 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I'm trying to remember how people learned photography pre-internet 
In my case it was - reading books and magazines, joining camera clubs, and going out and shooting (and taking notes of the lighting conditions and camera setttings).
Oct 13, 2018 14:14:13 #
John N wrote:
Bingo! vzI would have thought the more important issue is where the sun is going to be?
Oct 13, 2018 14:18:28 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Instead of asking this question you should be out forming your own Opinion... Talking about photography does little to hone your skills. Pick up the camera and get busy..........
I agree with you, but you and I may not have the same life constraints that the OP has. And maybe he has tried doing his homework but just can't seem to get it right. He may feel he is expecting something from the light that isn't there (even if it is there). Yes, he does need to get out there and shoot. But maybe we will point him in the right direction.
Oct 13, 2018 16:46:43 #
gvarner wrote:
What subjects would look better in each, or does it make a difference? Assume the target subject can be photographed in either. I would be interested in your preference. Thanks. I'm thinking that each has its own special quality.
I think it all comes down to at what times you like to be out and shoot, the quality of light is about the same, if you can hit the right moment!
Oct 13, 2018 19:20:29 #
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Instead of asking this question you should be out forming your own Opinion... Talking about photography does little to hone your skills. Pick up the camera and get busy..........
Actually, discussion is a big part of learning . . .
Oct 13, 2018 19:22:32 #
Ronsh wrote:
Very nice, may I ask where?
Thanks! It's the Three Bridges view, from Fort Montgomery, looking south at the Bear Mt Bridge, the pedestrian bridge and the railroad bridge - and the Hudson River.
Oct 13, 2018 19:32:58 #
Apaflo wrote:
Even operating a camera is very technical. It is too technical for many people.
The idea that photography is not extremely technical is just not well considered.
The idea that photography is not extremely technical is just not well considered.
That’s about the most vague and silly statement I have ever seen.
Are you saying that you cannot take a decent image without understanding a lot of technical stuff? That’s nonsense! If it were true then very few images captured on film in the last century would be worth looking at.
Oct 13, 2018 19:42:18 #
gvarner wrote:
What subjects would look better in each, or does it
make a difference? Assume the target subject can
be photographed in either. I would be interested in
your preference. Thanks. I'm thinking that each
has its own special quality.
What subjects would look better in each, or does it
make a difference? Assume the target subject can
be photographed in either. I would be interested in
your preference. Thanks. I'm thinking that each
has its own special quality.
My preference depends on when I get up, or how
late I'm up from the night before ... I think I may
have used morning light once or twice, or maybe
more[?] when I was still up from the night before.
At any rate, in my limited exposure to mornings,
I have seen some stuff that can't be found later
in the day. But that doesn't mean the photos are
better cuz it was by morning light. Morning stuff
I've observed that won't be there later includes
valley fog, joggers, eagles fishing, morning dew,
morning frost, etc.
Midday sunshine is not very good for photos but
the bookends of the daylight hours seem, to me,
to be equally aesthetic and usable, in terms of
illumination, even tho the available subjects will
sometimes be different.
Which ends of day do you see here ? Both ends
are included:
Oct 13, 2018 20:19:49 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
SteveLew wrote:
Both sunrise and sunset offer different attributes. Often the decision gets made by a shooter's personal desire that they are either a morning person or are better in the evenings. Also, as already mentioned, often times where the sun rises or sets is critical.
Hence the rise of TPE, Sun Locator, Compass Pro, and other apps to help the photographer be in the right place at the right time. Prior to the digital age, it often was camp out at a certain spot and wait to see how the scene changed to pick the right moment. Sometimes for a whole week. Either that or be lucky as all get out.
I personally think the main difference between morning light and evening light is temperature - literal temperature. All other factors being the same, the sun's heat during the day produces a somewhat subtle atmospheric difference between sunrise and sunset. It is not the only factor, but it is the most consistent factor since it occurs day in and day out.
And, yes, the type of person, morning or evening, is definitely a factor. I think all of us have beat the sun up at times for a shot. And bunches of us have stayed up for that sunset or night sky shot. But I have seen people asleep at both because it was not their normal schedule of life. As long as I was there, I made sure they didn't miss their shooting opportunity. I would hope someone would do the same for me.
Oct 13, 2018 20:23:54 #
Apaflo wrote:
Even operating a camera is very technical. It is too technical for many people.
The idea that photography is not extremely technical is just not well considered.
The idea that photography is not extremely technical is just not well considered.
I disagree - especially for digital and modern cameras.
My son's girlfriend (at the time) was doing a fine arts degree and they only spent one morning studying the camera the camera.
From my personal experience it was a lot easier than learning calculus (where I strugled and learnt what a migraine was).
Oct 13, 2018 20:34:01 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
Apaflo wrote:
Another source of pre-Internet information was from the many photography magazines.
New photographers did not just go out and shoot photographs to learn all on their own. There were formal classes at colleges and informal classes at camera clubs too.
Learning only by making mistakes is foolish when learning from the mistakes of others is so easy!
New photographers did not just go out and shoot photographs to learn all on their own. There were formal classes at colleges and informal classes at camera clubs too.
Learning only by making mistakes is foolish when learning from the mistakes of others is so easy!
So true. A lot of people expect all the information on the internet to be accurate and, therefore, do not think they need books, school, clubs, and practice. I missed out on lots of mistakes because of learning from a professional photographer who made one go out and shoot specific things with specific settings under specific conditions. They were set up to show how easy it was for things to be done right and be done wrong. His two students learned a lot from what had been his mistakes.
Oct 13, 2018 21:52:15 #
Radioactive wrote:
I like sunrises, the wind is usually calm making it ideal for reflections on the water.
Radioactive says, >>"the wind is usually calm"<< ..... I live in an area where the wind is usually crazy.
Enjoy.
Marion
Oct 14, 2018 09:21:42 #
dino21
Loc: McAllen, TX
I am learning too but one thing I have found that is extremely helpful to me, if you have a "smart phone" is an AP called LightTrac. I had to pay a few dollars for it but it is very helpful in that it tells you the angle, heigth and direction of the sun (and moon for that matter) for any location present time or future time. It shows you the length of shadow and shows you where exactly the sun will rise and the length of shadows at any particular time. Seems like a useful and informative tool to me and I have began using it myself. At least check it out.
Oct 14, 2018 15:36:56 #
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Instead of asking this question you should be out forming your own Opinion... Talking about photography does little to hone your skills. Pick up the camera and get busy..........
You hit the nail on the head!
Oct 14, 2018 18:52:10 #
Photography is absolutely hands on experience.. Of all people you should know Floyd, knowing everything about a camera Does Not result in good picture taking. The OP's question was so vague it boggles my mind. He needs to go out into the world and at least sit and watch sunsets and sunrises and see how the light differs. While he's out there maybe pick a subject that he may like and try to photograph. Hopefully he's brought his camera along and can Experiment, or at least press the shutter release...............Was he able to capture what he saw, is it a white balance problem, is it a focus problem, is it to dark, is it to light. Ask us a Question, don't ask us what to shot in what light and explain why We Like it. It's time to pull away from the UHH titty and try something for goodness sakes......... The OP has been a member since 2014 it's not like he's new to the hobby......
Apaflo wrote:
This is a topic where honing your skills with experiments without first getting at least some education may be nearly worthless. An informal discussion such as exists here on UHH is perhaps sufficient for most photographers. But really serious photography my require a degree in meteorology to know how to predict or interpret actual confitions.
Reading threads like this one before going out to experiment is essential.
Reading threads like this one before going out to experiment is essential.
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