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Oct 12, 2018 09:41:40   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
Reality shows you have lost touch. Actually, job recovery has slowed since trump took office. Positive job creation began in January 2009 and has remained positive every month since then. Though still very positive, Job growth “numbers” have actually slowed in 2018

Before anyone goes crazy, that is perfectly understandable because after 9 years of continued job growth, there is low unemployment and relatively fewer jobs available.

The point? Job creation is proportional to economic growth which has been increasing steadily for the past nine years. Obama and Trump policies are only a part of that improving trend. Both Obama and Trump have taken good steps to help the economy recover but it is not totally due to one person or the other; to think otherwise displays a disregard for the facts.

While we’re at it, let’s talk about the deficit under both presidents. Obama’s administration really ran the deficit up. The major cause of that was the cost of unemployment benefits. That had a double hit; revenue outflow for benefits and greatly reduced payroll tax income. Of course the deficit would grow! Unemployment benefits are now a trickle compared to a flood and payroll tax revenue is at a near all time high. So why does the deficit continue to grow?

Good question; think about it because the answer directly hurts your children and grandchildren.
Reality shows you have lost touch. Actually, job ... (show quote)


Odumbo was a disaster economically and his foreign policy was worse. He was in a job that he couldn’t handle, he divided this country like no other president ever has and that includes Trump. Odumbo himself said Trump would never bring those jobs back, he said “what kind of a magic wand does he have. Odumbo did manage to corrupt the FBI and DOJ, he used the IRS to punish conservative groups. He was spying on American citizens. He’s the reason Trump won the election. I’d have to drink an awful lot of kool-aid to see the world as you do. God bless Trump 2020 🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Oct 12, 2018 09:47:30   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
richosob wrote:
They should give Trump a third term for the excellent work in bringing our economy back after 8 years with that Muslim who actually worked at destroying our economy. You have some real mental problems, maybe it’s time to get some help.

You do realize that the economy has been steadily improving over the last 8 years.

When did Trump become President?

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Oct 12, 2018 10:00:55   #
KGOldWolf
 
richosob wrote:
Odumbo was a disaster economically and his foreign policy was worse. He was in a job that he couldn’t handle, he divided this country like no other president ever has and that includes Trump. Odumbo himself said Trump would never bring those jobs back, he said “what kind of a magic wand does he have. Odumbo did manage to corrupt the FBI and DOJ, he used the IRS to punish conservative groups. He was spying on American citizens. He’s the reason Trump won the election. I’d have to drink an awful lot of kool-aid to see the world as you do. God bless Trump 2020 🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Odumbo was a disaster economically and his foreign... (show quote)


I agree that Obama's foreign policy was poor. I believe the current refugee crisis is a direct consequence of "Arab Spring". The rest of what you posted is trump hogwash. For instance, Obama didn't lose those jobs; companies shipped jobs offshore to reduce expenses and take advantage of tax laws passed with their blessing. Be assured, "those jobs" aren't coming back. They were lost and forever gone; not lost to people, "those jobs" were lost to automation. While employment is at a record high level, look beneath the covers, the jobs that were lost paid a lot more.

You invoked "thanking God".... I can't wait until Christian right acknowledges the true lack of character that is trump. They gave him a pass on so many egregious sins just to attain a Supreme Court that will knock down Roe Wade. The Christian Right made a bargain with the devil.... thanking God for trump is "supremely" ironic.

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Oct 12, 2018 11:08:56   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
DaveO wrote:
Are you really that blind?


Are you, Dave?

Do you really think this is the Obama economy?

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Oct 12, 2018 12:03:49   #
bob44044 Loc: Ohio
 
kd7eir wrote:
...and means what he says!

SO, Trump and ALL TRUMPUBLICANS should support his IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT!


Grow up! You didn't have anything to say when the stock market boomed for the last year and a half. Hypocrite.

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Oct 12, 2018 12:09:31   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Are you, Dave?

Do you really think this is the Obama economy?


That’s what Rachel tells them their opinion is.

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Oct 12, 2018 12:29:30   #
bob44044 Loc: Ohio
 
According to the Congressional Joint Economic Committee’s 2015 analysis of the last eight recessions and their aftermaths, “the Obama recovery was the weakest on record.”

Indeed, across his two terms, Obama’s annual GDP growth averaged a low-energy 2.1 percent. By 2016, Obama had taxed, regulated, Obamacared, and lectured businesses down to an annual expansion of just 1.9 percent. Nonetheless, Obama wants a standing ovation for chauffeuring America down the freeway for eight years in a sputtering, backfiring jalopy . . . at 35 miles per hour.

And then something major happened: Donald J. Trump got elected.





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Oct 12, 2018 13:59:17   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
You do realize that the economy has been steadily improving over the last 8 years.

When did Trump become President?


Steadily improving, HAHAHA, You go right on believing that dnc bullcrap. The truth is he was a failure from day one. Shoving Obamacare down the throats of Americans, lying about keeping your doctor. Healthcare premiums so high many Americans couldn’t afford it, but of course all those millions who qualified for insurance that never had it before were elated. Our veterans living on the streets with no medical help while illegal immigrants received free housing, food and medical care. Promised to cut the deficit in half and he doubled it, sorry but he should’ve been run out of Washington on a rail. 😤

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Oct 12, 2018 14:06:31   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
kd7eir wrote:
...and means what he says!

SO, Trump and ALL TRUMPUBLICANS should support his IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT!




And everything went back up today... Next BS.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:18:22   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Texcaster wrote:
"... gee why do I continue to waste time debunking your pathological lies is a mystery to me and probably others as well. lol. " Cousin Eyesore

Why? Because you're Cousin Eyesore and will brook no unkind words about the Fluffy One and his 'short toadstool pecker'.


Plus, he appears to have plenty of wasted time to spread around.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:20:49   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
richosob wrote:
Steadily improving, HAHAHA, You go right on believing that dnc bullcrap. The truth is he was a failure from day one. Shoving Obamacare down the throats of Americans, lying about keeping your doctor. Healthcare premiums so high many Americans couldn’t afford it, but of course all those millions who qualified for insurance that never had it before were elated. Our veterans living on the streets with no medical help while illegal immigrants received free housing, food and medical care. Promised to cut the deficit in half and he doubled it, sorry but he should’ve been run out of Washington on a rail. 😤
Steadily improving, HAHAHA, You go right on believ... (show quote)

I didn't say anything about Obamacare, veterans, immigration or the deficit.

Nice segue way to change the subject.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:23:46   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DaveO wrote:
Where did you get that little tid-bit from? It was a contributing factor and economists have other what appear to be contributing factors, such as our cute little trade war and tariffs for examples.


And the possibility that an overheated market has begun to correct itself.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:23:50   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Lets face it. With the dumb democrats running Hillary the bag lady they never had a snowballs hope of getting her in.

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Oct 12, 2018 18:39:50   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
bob44044 wrote:
According to the Congressional Joint Economic Committee’s 2015 analysis of the last eight recessions and their aftermaths, “the Obama recovery was the weakest on record.”

Indeed, across his two terms, Obama’s annual GDP growth averaged a low-energy 2.1 percent. By 2016, Obama had taxed, regulated, Obamacared, and lectured businesses down to an annual expansion of just 1.9 percent. Nonetheless, Obama wants a standing ovation for chauffeuring America down the freeway for eight years in a sputtering, backfiring jalopy . . . at 35 miles per hour.

And then something major happened: Donald J. Trump got elected.
According to the Congressional Joint Economic Comm... (show quote)


Check this graph, then tell the truth:

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

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Oct 12, 2018 19:00:55   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Are you, Dave?

Do you really think this is the Obama economy?


Where did I state is was the Obama economy? Check any numbers on the economy you wish from 2008 forward and get back to us. Trump continued much of the work already in progress by the previous administration. Check the numbers instead of simply throwing political rhetoric out as fact.

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