ole sarg Loc: south florida

I suggest you look up what socialism is! You are showing your ignorance!

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

Yep, socialists or socialist wannabes are just to stupid to see how it doesn't work but they like living here.

flashgordonbrown Loc: Silverdale, WA

Social Security is NOT socialism - it's a fund that (was confiscated from me)I paid into based on my earnings. To try to lump it into socialism is disingenuous. Also, to try to lump the Interstate highway system into socialism is also a flawed argument - infrastructure is one of our government's constitutional duties, along with public safety.

EyeSawYou

WTF does Alaska have anything to do with Socialism and Venezuela? Please lay off the bottle man.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

Morally Socialism can be described in one word - theft -. Taxes are theft. We do need some taxes to provide security and other amenities like water, sewers roads, education K- 12, etc.

But when taxes are take to take care of individuals because they are incapable of doing it themselves - it is one thing for help temporarily but to make it a life long ambition to live on it for life, is wrong.

Aesop's 'the ant and the grasshopper" moral story. There are many other ancient stories about morality that the old provided us through their writings of how we should be humanly to our self's and others. For those who don't know the story: an ant started in the spring to plant crops and make a future comfortable life for himself while the grasshopper taunted him because of his work. The grasshopper with things green had an attitude of 'why work'. Summer was the same and so was fall. When winter came the ragged grasshopper came a knocking demanding to be taken care of because he was freezing and starving. He had ample warnings and ample time to provide for himself, yet he laid back and said work was not for him and he reaped his rewards while the ant was warm, dry, and had food.

If two grasshoppers came to the ants home, all three would have all starved because when too many try to drink from so many tits the milk bag goes dry!

The claim that the rich are to provide for the poor is BS. We and our government, was built not on this idea . We all have an equal right to be the best we can. It is not everything is to be equally divided. To take from the rich to provide for the poor is absolute theft. Three men in a room and two of them vote to take the third man's money, that is still theft. They have done absolutely nothing to earn it other than vote. Yet they have the right to leave the room and make their own wealth. Life isn't a fair proposition. “Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid” — John Wayne.

When having a government provide for all your needs, the one thing you lose, is freedom. Usually freedom like where are you going to get your food to eat today, because the shelves of the stores are empty or extremely rationed. There are sooooo many things lacking in a socialist government. Odd though, the leaders of socialist governments do not suffer. It is only the citizens that share the poor and lacking necessities of life.

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

just a plain stupid comment.

fantom Loc: Colorado

So true. Just wish goofy Bernie, Warren and Bilary could see this and comment.

fantom Loc: Colorado

As usual your goofy posts contain so many falsehoods that it is impossible to address them all and you couldn't understand them if we did point them out to you.
For example, in your misleading statement in a previous post on this thread regarding Teddy R. you equate abuse of capitalism with capitalism. A gross error in judgement but I'm sure you revel in your misrepresentation of facts cuz most libbys are too dense to discern the difference. Socialism on the other hand does not need to be abused to be a failure.
Don't bother to reply to me as I have had more than enough of your weak-minded drivel for one day. I thought it was interesting that you did not even try to defend the Venezuela reference---kinda hard to refute that isn't it?

Angmo

Socialism fails every time it’s tried.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

When most of us talk about the "Evils" of Welfare, a for of Socialism by some people's definition, I think most people are referring to the people who are "gaming" the system.

I'm confident that you're not referring to the family of 5 who has been working and productive for so many years and maybe the husband dies and the mother and kids should just fend for themselves.

IMHO, Welfare should be for people who NEED it.
They can't work because of injury or illness and don't have, for whatever reason, insurance or savings to manage.

So when you say, get rid of 100% of Socialism...are these the people you want effected as well?

As with most things, the CORRECT/BEST answer lies somewhere in the middle.
We'll never find the answer as long as we remain polarized at the ends.

fantom Loc: Colorado

I generally agree with everything you say EXCEPT pls be careful and do not equate socialism with welfare. They are totally different. The dims would like you to believe they are the same thing in order to make socialism palatable to you. They are not, in fact, welfare fares much better in a capitalistic system rather than socialism.

EyeSawYou

What you have explained is not socialism, that's welfare Capitalism.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

I agree.

But a lot of people think and talk about them as if they were the same.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

It's not the Democrats that equate them.

It's anyone who is opposed to Welfare, for whatever reason.

EyeSawYou

I think most of us have made this mistake including me, this is why I really don't come down hard on others who still do not understand what socialism really is. This is the fault of all sides presenting a false definition of socialism, we conservatives are the worst offenders on this issue.