Parkinson's. Now what? (Page 4): Hello Angmo, I'll try to keep it brief so not to turn this discussion into one about alternative medicine. What you said about regular doctors is...

4merShooter

Hello Angmo,

I'll try to keep it brief so not to turn this discussion into one about alternative medicine.

What you said about regular doctors is true, as well as your points on magnesium deficiency. A number of years ago, I had a terrible jerking in my head and neck that two neurologists shrugged their shoulders at.

One evening, my former pastor introduced me to a friend who was a biochemist and owned a vitamin store. Just a quick description had him respond, "Take calcium, magnesium, and vitamin E. I can supply them to you if you'd like." I took him up on it and the problem that the doctors didn't know how to treat - let alone identify - subsided in the days ahead and was gone in a week. So it seems that it was a magnesium deficiency. When I told my neurologist about it later, he didn't know what to say. Modern medicine is a boon for the doctors, not-so-good for the patient.

4merShooter

vermis wrote:

bounce anything unusual that you hear or were told to do, if you want, by me: hello12@bellsouth.net as I said, movement disorders and PD are a big part of what I do daily as a neurologist.
Eric

You're a good man. Eric. Some folks have somewhat of a distrust of doctors. You and others like you give the medical profession a more human touch.

ras422 Loc: Virginia

As a practicing medical doctor,I take offense to you statement. I do agree that some docs do not listen to their patient or take an adequate history. I see magnesium deficiency frequently in patients especially those on diuretics and proton pump inhibitors which can also cause b12 def. people may have muscle cramps, muscle spasm or myoclonic jerking. It is important to figure out why someone has the problem as well as treating it! Try treating Parkinson disease with vitamins etc. Rich

Angmo

ras422 wrote:

As a practicing medical doctor,I take offense to you statement. I do agree that some docs do not listen to their patient or take an adequate history. I see magnesium deficiency frequently in patients especially those on diuretics and proton pump inhibitors which can also cause b12 def. people may have muscle cramps, muscle spasm or myoclonic jerking. It is important to figure out why someone has the problem as well as treating it! Try treating Parkinson disease with vitamins etc. Rich

Who said vitamins treat a disease. Prevent. Yep. Big time.

Doctors have shown me plainly there’s no money to be made in medicine. Only in treatment. Plenty of documentation showing the benefits of CoQ10 in PD and Heart Failure.

I’ve seen misdiagnosed magnesium deficiencies as PD. Go figure. I heard doctors state very high levels of arsenic is no problem. That boosting an older man’s testosterone will make the heart explode. Many doctors will only listen to patients for like 10 seconds.

I know an elderly woman who broke her pelvis in two places and U shaped fracture around her spine. The “doctor” stated there’s nothing he can or will do. Doc said take an aspirin and come back in a few months. This was doctor number 3 over a two month period.

After speaking with him quietly surgery was scheduled. Her injury was under diagnosed and undertreated. I showed him a study of this issue in Europe perfectly matching the ladies issues, journey, pain and medical mismanagement. Study of hundreds of patients. Lucky for her a knowledgeable non doctor intervened.

That’s just how it is.

There are also many absolutely superb doctors out there too. There should be.

Bipod

lwhitehall wrote:

A trick I used to aid in stabilization is to take ... (show quote)

Good idea!

Another thing to try would be a camera with a pistol grip.
Back in the day almost every Super 8 and vidcam had a pistol grip.
Odd that there aren't more of those around--imagine trying to hit a
target with a pistol shaped like a SLR!

PeterBergh

Bipod wrote:

... Odd that there aren't more of those around--imagine trying to hit a target with a pistol shaped like a SLR!

Not odd at all; with the many school and other shootings today, people are very wary of anything that looks even remotely like a firearm (and few people have seen or handled a real firearm).

Angmo

PeterBergh wrote:

Not odd at all; with the many school and other shootings today, people are very wary of anything that looks even remotely like a firearm (and few people have seen or handled a real firearm).

More than camera man with video cameras look like they are holding an RPG from a distance. If they are facing you. That’s an issue.

4merShooter

ras422 wrote:

As a practicing medical doctor,I take offense to you statement. I do agree that some docs do not listen to their patient or take an adequate history. I see magnesium deficiency frequently in patients especially those on diuretics and proton pump inhibitors which can also cause b12 def. people may have muscle cramps, muscle spasm or myoclonic jerking. It is important to figure out why someone has the problem as well as treating it! Try treating Parkinson disease with vitamins etc. Rich

Rich,

My apologies, that was not a stab at the entire medical community and it was never my intention to offend you or anyone else. I offer my sincere apologies to anyone who is offended by my remarks about doctors.

It is true that SOME doctors don't listen to their patients. They came to see them because of often great need and when you're in that position, it's very frustrating. Sadly, I'll be making office visits until the day that I go to my eternal home. I have a GI doctor who I love. He is on the good side, and I give all due respect him and the doctors who are like him.

Respectfully,
Brian

BobT Loc: southern Minnesota

I wish to THANK all of you folks who contributed to my situation. Sounds like my photography can continue on for a while. I was VERY happy to realize that. I appreciated all the upbeat comments. Having known no one with this disease, you've given me a lot of hope for getting along in the future.

Just goes to show how the UHHers can come through during a true time of need.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

Bob

Angmo

God bless sir. Keep the faith.

Bipod

PeterBergh wrote:

Not odd at all; with the many school and other shootings today, people are very wary of anything that looks even remotely like a firearm (and few people have seen or handled a real firearm).

Interesting point. Have we come to that? Sad day.

Nevertheless, it could be colored orange or something. And physiology doesn't change
just to suit the ills of our society. Walking sticks can conceal swords--but we still use them

PeterBergh

Bipod wrote:

Interesting point. Have we come to that? Sad day.

Nevertheless, it could be colored orange or something. And physiology doesn't change
just to suit the ills of our society. Walking sticks can conceal swords--but we still use them

Sad indeed.

Firearms today are sold in a multitude of colors, so (assuming the mythical man in the street knows that) using some off color would not help. When I was a cop, I had to handle a couple of calls where people got hysterical because they saw a man carrying a firearm (perfectly legal in "my" jurisdiction).

Yes, a walking stick can conceal a sword, but "the man in the street" does not know that. Also, a sword stick can not be told from an ordinary walking stick without fairly close inspection.

Angmo

PeterBergh wrote:

Sad indeed. br br Firearms today are sold in a mu... (show quote)

A walking stick is a very effective self defense tool - that is, with a bit of training.

Bipod

PeterBergh wrote:

Sad indeed. br br Firearms today are sold in a mu... (show quote)

Here's an idea: let's sell more cameras and less guns.
And how about a handgun-for-a-camera exchange program?

Cameras do keep people (and property) safe. I've got five security
cameras and two "trail" still cameras on my property. Nobody bothers
our stuff. Before I put them in, there were several incidents of theft
and vandalism.

Angmo

Bipod wrote:

Here's an idea: let's sell more cameras and less guns.
And how about a handgun-for-a-camera exchange program?

Cameras do keep people (and property) safe. I've got five security
cameras and two "trail" still cameras on my property. Nobody bothers
our stuff. Before I put them in, there were several incidents of theft
and vandalism.

I support any mans right to feel safe. I do also have a constitutional right to make myself safe. Million folks a year prevent crime. Chasing bad guys away and no one getting hurt.