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Oct 5, 2018 10:25:10   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
rpavich wrote:
True.

I've never SEEN to much vile hatred as displayed by those supporting the party-of-death.


How difficult would it be for a socialist government to take over if the liberals were in power, our great founders and patriots would roll over in their graves. This whole world it stained with blood from freedom loving Americans, but their lives were given in vain because history is no longer taught in schools. I remember as a child, Russian Premier Khrushchev's words, "we will bury you", without ever firing a shot. As a young man I didn't quite get what he meant, but I now clearly understand, the billions of socialist dollars dumped into our educational system have finally poisoned the minds of a whole generation of American's, and it was done not only by what they taught, but also by the history they distorted or didn't teach at all.
Not only our educational system, TV, written and WEB media has also been infiltrated by the likes of socialist minded George Soros.
As conservatives we have an uphill battle, but I believe if we stick together and with the help of the Good Lord we will overtake this evil.

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Oct 5, 2018 10:31:38   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
How difficult would it be for a socialist government to take over if the liberals were in power, our great founders and patriots would roll over in their graves. This whole world it stained with blood from freedom loving Americans, but their lives were given in vain because history is no longer taught in schools. I remember as a child, Russian Premier Khrushchev's words, "we will bury you", without ever firing a shot. As a young man I didn't quite get what he meant, but I now clearly understand, the billions of socialist dollars dumped into our educational system have finally poisoned the minds of a whole generation of American's, and it was done not only by what they taught, but also by the history they distorted or didn't teach at all.
Not only our educational system, TV, written and WEB media has also been infiltrated by the likes of socialist minded George Soros.
As conservatives we have an uphill battle, but I believe if we stick together and with the help of the Good Lord we will overtake this evil.
How difficult would it be for a socialist governme... (show quote)

There is much truth in what you wrote.

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Oct 5, 2018 10:41:35   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
How difficult would it be for a socialist government to take over if the liberals were in power, our great founders and patriots would roll over in their graves. This whole world it stained with blood from freedom loving Americans, but their lives were given in vain because history is no longer taught in schools. I remember as a child, Russian Premier Khrushchev's words, "we will bury you", without ever firing a shot. As a young man I didn't quite get what he meant, but I now clearly understand, the billions of socialist dollars dumped into our educational system have finally poisoned the minds of a whole generation of American's, and it was done not only by what they taught, but also by the history they distorted or didn't teach at all.
Not only our educational system, TV, written and WEB media has also been infiltrated by the likes of socialist minded George Soros.
As conservatives we have an uphill battle, but I believe if we stick together and with the help of the Good Lord we will overtake this evil.
How difficult would it be for a socialist governme... (show quote)


Well said.

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Oct 5, 2018 10:46:59   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
How difficult would it be for a socialist government to take over if the liberals were in power, our great founders and patriots would roll over in their graves. This whole world it stained with blood from freedom loving Americans, but their lives were given in vain because history is no longer taught in schools. I remember as a child, Russian Premier Khrushchev's words, "we will bury you", without ever firing a shot. As a young man I didn't quite get what he meant, but I now clearly understand, the billions of socialist dollars dumped into our educational system have finally poisoned the minds of a whole generation of American's, and it was done not only by what they taught, but also by the history they distorted or didn't teach at all.
Not only our educational system, TV, written and WEB media has also been infiltrated by the likes of socialist minded George Soros.
As conservatives we have an uphill battle, but I believe if we stick together and with the help of the Good Lord we will overtake this evil.
How difficult would it be for a socialist governme... (show quote)

One could also say
How difficult would it be for a dictatorial government to take over if the conservatives were in power?

I have no way of knowing but, I think the founding fathers were more interested in us working TOGETHER than being adversaries.
At least that's what I hope.

Trying to blame one party for all our problems is naive and unproductive.

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Oct 5, 2018 10:50:32   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
fotoman150 wrote:
The tv has got people so afraid of each other you can’t be friendly anymore. Especially to women. I don’t think it’s because the world is more dangerous than before. FBI statistics show that in the US violent crime especially rape has declined.

I think the news has to scare people to get them to watch so they can sell you ten of what you already have so they can put food on the table for their families. The competition is fierce so they don’t check their facts well before publishing and have to retract stories all the time.

Tv shows are full of liberal BS in the story lines of the evening comedy and variety shows. I disconnected the tv. I have 7 in the house and none of them have programming any more

Facebook has 50 choices of gender one of which is “demi boy” WTF?

People are afraid of their own shadow. You can’t be friendly to women anymore they will either ignore you out of fear or accuse you of something sexual as a weapon so they can’t be trusted. I have sworn off women.

By the time a woman gets my age 50s she is damaged beyond repair. My girlfriend left me because I didn’t make enough money for her. She actually said that. I told her she wasn’t that attractive and that rich men want attractive women. I was willing to love her for her spirit not her body. I had kept that to myself for a long time. Then she kept complaining about all these things about me and I told her there were some things I didn’t like about her but I overlooked them. She demanded to know what they were and I told her her body was not attractive. Then she wouldn’t undress in front of me. I felt bad but she kept putting me down to our therapist. I feel like the things I don’t like about her are minor annoyances and not worth ending the relationship. She decided to leave me and that’s when I told her I didn’t like some things about her either.

There is this woman in the restaurant where I am seated now having breakfast. She is a member of a group of elderly people that come to socialize. I spoke to her a few times out of friendliness just as I spoke to several members of the group. They are outside my age range but I like to make friends. Next time I spoke to her we were the only ones here and she turned her chair so her back was to me so I wouldn’t speak to her. So today I am ignoring her so she doesn’t freak out.

I hate the way society has evolved.
The tv has got people so afraid of each other you ... (show quote)

Read this. Maybe it will give you some perspective.

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/syndicated-columnists/article219461890.html

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Oct 5, 2018 10:52:08   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
One could also say
How difficult would it be for a dictatorial government to take over if the conservatives were in power?

I have no way of knowing but, I think the founding fathers were more interested in us working TOGETHER than being adversaries.
At least that's what I hope.

Trying to blame one party for all our problems is naive and unproductive.


I did not mention one party over another, I was talking about a mindset, that's the problem

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Oct 5, 2018 10:55:42   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
One could also say
How difficult would it be for a dictatorial government to take over if the conservatives were in power?


I guess you COULD say that but it wouldn't reflect reality. Conservatives like LESS power and in general, value the constitution more than others. To the degree they deviate from this they are just showing how much they've strayed from their roots.

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I have no way of knowing but, I think the founding fathers were more interested in us working TOGETHER than being adversaries.
At least that's what I hope.


The founding Fathers were interested in certain values regardless of who supports them and who doesn't.

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Trying to blame one party for all our problems is naive and unproductive.


Not true.

Truth is truth and as long as one party supports certain things that are objectively morally wrong then it's good to point that out. It's always good to value and support the truth.

To know what the Dem's value, just listen to what they say. It's not brain surgery. I don't blame them for ALL our woes but their partie's values are objectively, morally wrong.

To the degree that the republicans drift into supporting their values and ideas I am fine calling THEM out also.

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Oct 5, 2018 11:00:48   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
<rant>
I started working in academia, which was strongly left-leaning. It rubbed off so I was a Democrat for many years. Then I started my own business and started getting more conservative.

During that process, the left and right got further apart, to the point where I can't call myself a Democrat any more, nor can I stomach much of the Republican stuff out there. I like to say I'm in the middle of the road but the road has gotten really wide.

I lived in Massachusetts for many years. That state allowed me to register to vote without enrolling in a party so I have been unenrolled officially. As I see it, both sides are stuck in the mud by doctrinal positions which don't always make much sense to me. I vote for people based on how qualified I think they are and what I think they will do. There are not many people these days that will meet my qualifications, which include working with people who have a different view of things, and being able to compromise on details so that things get done. Politics in my view is the art of compromise and there are not a lot of people out there who practice it, and the few that do have to keep it under cover so they don't honk off their "base". </rant>

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Oct 5, 2018 11:05:16   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
rpavich wrote:
Not true.

Truth is truth and as long as one party supports certain things that are objectively morally wrong then it's good to point that out. It's always good to value and support the truth.

To know what the Dem's value, just listen to what they say. It's not brain surgery. I don't blame them for ALL our woes but their partie's values are objectively, morally wrong.

To the degree that the republicans drift into supporting their values and ideas I am fine calling THEM out also.
Not true. br br Truth is truth and as long as one... (show quote)

"....objectively morally wrong...."

Based on a lot of things I read on this site, I don't see very many people who are "objective".

Unfortunately Truth is not always Truth.
Truth seems to be open to interpretation.

Tell me how many "truths" are in this sentence....."I didn't say he robbed the bank."

This is the world e live in.

Let's work together to accomplish ..... anything/everything.

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Oct 5, 2018 11:10:54   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
"....objectively morally wrong...."

Based on a lot of things I read on this site, I don't see very many people who are "objective".


Objective just means that there is a standard to point to as opposed to relative. Truth is objective. It either is true or it isn't. That's the definition of "objective truth"


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Unfortunately Truth is not always Truth.
Truth seems to be open to interpretation.


Truth is never open to interpretation. Truth is. The definition of truth is "that which comports to reality." There can't be something "true for you" and not for me.

Example; if humans didn't exist, would truth exist? Certainly. Logic, truth, morality all exist independent of human's ability to recognize it. To say otherwise is ludicrous.

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Tell me how many "truths" are in this sentence....."I didn't say he robbed the bank."


I'm not going to play word games with you. If you don't understand the definition of "objective truth" then just say so.

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This is the world e live in.

Let's work together to accomplish ..... anything/everything.


I never said we shouldn't work together to accomplish things, I merely pointed out that there is an objective standard of morality and truth that I can point to and that one party is famous for violating it. That's all.

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Oct 5, 2018 11:14:06   #
lesdmd Loc: Middleton Wi via N.Y.C. & Cleveland
 
Your “black or white” view of science and truth fails you.

Most people have external sexual characteristics that quantify them as either male or female...but not all. There are hemaphrodites. Your god either created them or allowed it to happen.

More important, and what you completely ignore, sexual identity falls across a spectrum. “Men” and “women” often act, and prefer to appear, in ways that don’t coincide with the ways their sexual apparatus appears. On one end of the scale a human with a penis may participate only in what society has traditionally labeled “manly” activities, while another may engage only in what are labeled “feminine” interests. Or perhaps the same person might do both.

The point is that I do not care how someone chooses to describe his or her identity. I know who and what I am and would only resent someone attempting to put a label on me.

People are complicated. Few of us are purely “libs” or (or whatever) Conservatives hate to be called. None of us are purely the result of our hormones or gonads.

Perhaps, in the after-life In which I assume you believe, their will be no controversy over what people were. In life I prefer to generously and respectfully allow humans to describe themselves any way they wish. If a person is confused, it does not help to impose inaccurate stereotypes.

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Oct 5, 2018 11:20:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
lesdmd wrote:
Your “black or white” view of science and truth fails you.


Sorry. It doesn't. If you want to re-define truth..then fine but you won't be able to sustain that twisting of it.

[quote]Most people have external sexual characteristics that quantify them as either male or female...but not all. There are hemaphrodites. Your god either created them or allowed it to happen.[quote]

True. There are males, females and some are born with deviations however that didn't address my point. My point was that you don't get to choose your sex...that's not reality.

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More important, and what you completely ignore, sexual identity falls across a spectrum.


There is no such thing as "sexual identity" That's a made up concept.

There are men, and there are women. That's truth.

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“Men” and “women” often act, and prefer to appear, in ways that don’t coincide with the ways their sexual apparatus appears.


Sure...do men act in a myriad of ways?

Sure...do women act in a myriad of ways?

Certainly..but that doesn't change their biology into something other than "man or woman" You have drank the Kool-aid.


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On one end of the scale a human with a penis may participate only in what society has traditionally labeled “manly” activities, while another may engage only in what are labeled “feminine” interests. Or perhaps the same person might do both.


You confuse actions with biology; don't keep drinking the Kool-aid.

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The point is that I do not care how someone chooses to describe his or her identity. I know who and what I am and would only resent someone attempting to put a label on me.


Like I said...some folks don't care about what's truth or not..just what they feel. You apparently fall into the latter category.

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People are complicated. Few of us are purely “libs” or (or whatever) Conservatives hate to be called. None of us are purely the result of our hormones or gonads.


People are complicated for sure but again...they are either men...or women.

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Perhaps, in the after-life In which I assume you believe, their will be no controversy over what people were. In life I prefer to generously and respectfully allow humans to describe themselves any way they wish. If a person is confused, it does not help to impose inaccurate stereotypes.


Truth matters...but as you said...you don't care what's true so I guess you won't be responding...right?

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Oct 5, 2018 11:35:13   #
fotoman150
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
<rant>
I started working in academia, which was strongly left-leaning. It rubbed off so I was a Democrat for many years. Then I started my own business and started getting more conservative.

During that process, the left and right got further apart, to the point where I can't call myself a Democrat any more, nor can I stomach much of the Republican stuff out there. I like to say I'm in the middle of the road but the road has gotten really wide.

I lived in Massachusetts for many years. That state allowed me to register to vote without enrolling in a party so I have been unenrolled officially. As I see it, both sides are stuck in the mud by doctrinal positions which don't always make much sense to me. I vote for people based on how qualified I think they are and what I think they will do. There are not many people these days that will meet my qualifications, which include working with people who have a different view of things, and being able to compromise on details so that things get done. Politics in my view is the art of compromise and there are not a lot of people out there who practice it, and the few that do have to keep it under cover so they don't honk off their "base". </rant>
<rant> br I started working in academia, whi... (show quote)


You don’t understand the difference between socialism and capitalism. If you did you would never vote Democrat

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Oct 5, 2018 11:59:26   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I think the news has to scare people to get them to watch so they can sell you ten of what you already have so they can put food on the table for their families. The competition is fierce so they don’t check their facts well before publishing and have to retract stories all the time.

I'm with you on how terrible TV news is. I think the people who are just finding this out are a little late in awakening. I gave up watching the news over 30 years ago for the very same reasons that you outline. News is nothing more than a form of entertainment pretending to be something important. It desperately needs conflict and drama on which to feed, otherwise nobody would be interested in watching it. If there is no drama or conflict in a story, they will invent it.

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Oct 5, 2018 12:04:27   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
R Pavich, great replies! The system would not let me quote your entire posts because you have alternating quotes within the post, but keep it up.

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