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Oct 3, 2018 08:26:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Interesting situation. You're saying your new machine is slower than your 2011 MacBook Pro. The SSD is fast, and you have more memory than you will ever need, but what processors - and what speeds - are in both computers. It's the processors, after all, that do the processing.

If you still have the 2011 Mac available. I would do identical processing with each and see how long each takes. Maybe what you're doing with the new Mac is more demanding.

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Oct 3, 2018 08:30:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
karno wrote:
I really don’t know anything about allocating ram😊 it was something another UHH er suggested and I asked him how that was done.

I had apple do a diagnostic they said all was fine.

I am not using my external HD but have about 100 images saved directly in Lightroom.

Anyway I really appreciate you taking the time
Sincerely
Batty


I've been using LR and PS for years, and I've never changed the standard memory allocation.

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Oct 3, 2018 08:32:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
We use SSDs at work and were told never to defrag an SSD. Additionally, iMacs run Unix. That system takes care of itself. Unix usually likes to be rebooted about once a month, though. That removes a lot of "junk" that collects over time, inodes.
--Bob



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Oct 3, 2018 08:35:38   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Sometimes a simple restart will make the little wheel go away.

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Oct 3, 2018 08:52:00   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Interesting situation. You're saying your new machine is slower than your 2011 MacBook Pro. The SSD is fast, and you have more memory than you will ever need, but what processors - and what speeds - are in both computers. It's the processors, after all, that do the processing.

If you still have the 2011 Mac available. I would do identical processing with each and see how long each takes. Maybe what you're doing with the new Mac is more demanding.


I am doing the exact some thing with my desktop as I did with my Mac book in fact I can bog the computer down with a single raw file it is more to do with the number of adjustments and the screen 5k becomes to much for the computer which can happen at about 7 different brush stroke adjustments in Lightroom And forget about removing hot Pixals

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Oct 3, 2018 08:54:29   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Do you live near an Apple store? If yes make an appointment with the Genius Bar and bring in your computer. I have never been disappointed with their help. Find out from Apple the best connection to use for external hard drives etc.

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Oct 3, 2018 08:54:57   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Gene51 wrote:
An iMac pro should do better. You should be able to get some help from a consultant who deals with Macs and Adobe software.


You would think help would be available tried these routes to no avail

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Oct 3, 2018 08:55:49   #
newvy
 
Call Mac support. They are brilliant! And only one word. Genius Bar! If you’re near an apple store take it in and see them. They will help!

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Oct 3, 2018 08:56:19   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
PCB_smv wrote:
My IMac isn’t that powerful but I have the same problem with Photoshop. If you find the answer, would you mind posting it.


Are you using a iMac 5k screen resolution

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Oct 3, 2018 08:58:45   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
My machine is a 2011 mac and runs fine working on my D850 files. My thoughts if your Stacking with Zerene or another stacking software, maybe that's the problem, not able to handle the big files. Or if your stacking through the cloud using Photoshop, maybe your connection speed is killing you. P.S. I'm running on 16GB ram with 2 TB storage. I haven't tried stacking these files yet, only my 24MP files from other camera.


Yes my 2011 Mac book would stack and process my D850 files with out this problem

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Oct 3, 2018 08:59:13   #
Grey Ghost
 
Make an appointment at the Apple store Genius Bar. There is no charge to have them sit down and review the problem with you in order to hopefully come up with a resolution to the problem.

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Oct 3, 2018 09:00:09   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
karno wrote:
You would think help would be available tried these routes to no avail


Where are you seeing things slowing down - Lightroom? Photoshop? What operations? Are you using a single drive? Is it a Fusion drive? Even though I run on Windows, I support both - since my students have both, so if you want to explore this a little bit, you can send me a PM and I will try to help.

There is no way a current desktop machine with your configuration as I understand it could be beat by an 7 yr old laptop.

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Oct 3, 2018 09:08:59   #
binsjohn
 
I apologize if anyone has already mentioned this, but I hope it helps regardless.

I have a three year old iMac and use only Photos for editing. I have PS Elements, too, but have used it rarely since Photos covers 99.9% of my needs. Photos has worked well for me until I upgraded to the High Sierra OS back in January. At that point I started having problems similar to those you describe. I spent countless hours talking with the dedicated Photos team at Apple without resolution. They kicked the can up to Apple's software engineers, who said my problem had been reported by others, but they had no fix as yet.

I had more or less given up on using Photos for editing, assumed I would move any file I wanted to edit to Elements, and then move it back to Photos. Before I got around to doing that Apple released the Mojave OS and, voila!, problem solved. All is well again. I haven't noticed any mention of your OS in your posts (Sorry if I missed it.), so consider the upgrade to Mojave if you're not already there. Good luck.

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Oct 3, 2018 09:10:56   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
johnst1001a wrote:
Here is a thought. One the bottom left of photoshop there is a pull down menu that gives you the ability to see the image dimensions, size etc. Select size. It will show something like 50m/50M to start. Then asy you do things, like focus stacking, each time you do, you will see your size increase dramatically. I us Nik plugins, and if I use a few, the size of the picture grows dramatically, up to 700mb, to ove 3 gb's in one instance. So now you are working with multiple layer. We he D850 image size, or worse yet a tiff file, your image size can get huge. Now save the file. It could be way bigger than the original file.
What you can do is flatten the image after you are done, and the file size will drop drastically. What I do is denoise first, flatten the image, then do something else which might create a new layer, then flatten. Eache time you flatten, you will keep the changes you made with a much smaller file.

I do panoramas. If you use say 5 picture, blend them, you will have layers, one for each picture, plus the final blended picture. Now you have many gb's in RAM. Since you have finished with the picture layer, dlete their layers and close the individual pictures.

I blended 13 pictures, in a pano the other day, it took 3 hours for the final product. It was 6 gb in size

If you focus stack, the same thing will happen, you ile size will grow dramatically as you have more and more layers. Try flattening the image while and after completing the process. you my help youe slowness issues.
Of course oncw you flatten, you cannot go back and modify the layers.
Here is a thought. One the bottom left of photosho... (show quote)


Yes I don’t save my layers either and save the image as a copy.
I am gathering this has more to do with the resolution of the 5k screen slowing the computer down with each adjustment even to a single raw file the computer has to work hard to keep up with this 5k
Even with a basic single raw file After several adjustments in Lightroom especially the brush tool the computer renders itself useless, this is most likely a flaw in apples attempt to make sharper and sharper screens.
When I purchased this computer I asked the sales lady what computer she was going to get for herself, she stated a laptop and add her own screens, I found this perplexing at the time but know I understand. I believe she knew of this problem though wanted to sell this 5k over letting me in on the fact that 5k screen bogs down the computer, I have really lost faith in costumer service.

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Oct 3, 2018 09:12:16   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Call Apple, (800) 275-2273 for help,

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