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Sep 30, 2018 08:30:50   #
RickTaylor
 
jim quist wrote:
You shouldn't sell to me anyway since my money would apparently put you out of business. And if you sold things at a ridiculous mark up I wouldn't buy from you anyway.

I wouldn’t sell to you because you are a weasel it has nothing to do with your money. As I stated in my past post you are type of customer that just likes to waste my time getting free advice only to the go price shop for the same item a nickel cheaper somewhere else. Then you would have the guts to bring the item back to my store that you purchased elsewhere and want more free advice when you didn’t understand how something functioned. You think your are being a smart shopper but the reality is you are a pain in my a**!

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Sep 30, 2018 11:16:24   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I standby what I wrote I worked in both little and big retail stores there’s always profit to be made on sellable products. Thank you for you’re input!

Rich1939 wrote:
Except there is a whole lot more that is part of the equation than "meeting competition".
A small example if you don't mind; Pop's B&M store in Podunk has an annual served market for a gedunk of 6000 while B&H's annual served market for the item is 600,000. They both qualify to purchase the item at the best cost. Pop buys his stock in lots of 1500 which he turns 4 times a year. B&H buys theirs in lots of 50,000 spun at 12 times a year. If Pop meets competition on an item he can only turn 4 times a year in his small town he’d be better off putting his money on the horses. Using some crazy numbers (unless you’re in the supermarket business) say both are marking up 5% at a 4x turn Pop is looking at a 20% rti. B&H at a 12X turn is looking at a 60% rti. The real game isn’t how much profit margin you can get but how many times a year you can do it.
I know there are degree(d) economists here at UHH that can correct or amend the above but, keeping that in mind (among other things) helped keep me afloat for a long time.
Except there is a whole lot more that is part of t... (show quote)

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Sep 30, 2018 11:18:37   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Bill P wrote:
Here's a way to get a 100% discount: Pull out your nine.


Oh Silly 😝 you.

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Sep 30, 2018 11:35:18   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
rmalarz wrote:
Personally, my approach would have been to ask what's the best they can do for me. I'd accept any offer other than "we can't do that". That way both are happy and they have an easier time staying in business.
--Bob


I’m with you on this nicely stated Bob.

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Sep 30, 2018 11:40:30   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Nicely Put Gene. I agree keep your customers happy and your business will thrive!


Gene51 wrote:
Hmm. It really is that simple and obvious. At the core, if you get the customer service thing right, the rest follows. At the end of the day, you aren't selling product, you are selling who you are, and how you can best serve your client's needs - whether you are selling in a mom and pop, or you have John F. Akers himself as your client - both of which I've done.

On the other hand, what exactly are you measuring with your 35 yrs of running a business? Did you own that business or run it for someone else? Is personal attack, condescension and ridicule the essence of your management style, or did you just whip that up special just for me?

Anyway, I am happy for you and your long years of success in business and I wish you many many more.
Hmm. It really is that simple and obvious. At the ... (show quote)

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Sep 30, 2018 14:08:49   #
LA Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
Glenn Harve wrote:
...and we just saw it.


There is a huge difference between ad hominem and attacking a person's ARGUMENTS. The post I replied to did the former without addressing the OP's arguments in the slightest degree.
Some people do not understand this difference but it is huge.

Can you point out to me where I attacked the person rather than his (implied) argument? I reread it before posting to make sure I talked ONLY about the content of his post. Just to be clear, it is OK to criticize a person's post, not OK to criticize the person. Big difference.

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Sep 30, 2018 16:09:30   #
Glenn Harve
 
LA wrote:
There is a huge difference between ad hominem and attacking a person's ARGUMENTS. The post I replied to did the former without addressing the OP's arguments in the slightest degree.
Some people do not understand this difference but it is huge.

Can you point out to me where I attacked the person rather than his (implied) argument? I reread it before posting to make sure I talked ONLY about the content of his post. Just to be clear, it is OK to criticize a person's post, not OK to criticize the person. Big difference.
There is a huge difference between ad hominem and ... (show quote)


Here come the self appointed thought police. Feelings hurt? Need a cupcake and a safe-room? If a person doesnt own their opinions personally, neither the opinion, nor the person hold much value. Rhetoric just becomes a pile of liberal dribble with no conviction or truth. Ya gotta own it.

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Sep 30, 2018 16:38:41   #
LA Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
Glenn Harve wrote:
Here come the self appointed thought police. Feelings hurt? Need a cupcake and a safe-room? If a person doesnt own their opinions personally, neither the opinion, nor the person hold much value. Rhetoric just becomes a pile of liberal dribble with no conviction or truth. Ya gotta own it.


Thought police? Liberal dribble? Cupcake? Safe room? How did you miss snowflake?

No one is controlling your thoughts as long as they are civil. Are you suggesting civility is passe? Hope not.
What is your problem with critiquing the ideas presented but NOT the person?

From your response here, you have no idea of the distinction I was making. Nothing I said has anything to do with not owning your opinions, does it? Just the opposite: virtual everything I said was that criticizing someone's IDEAS was perfectly OK. If I'm wrong, please show me how, but I don't think you can. My problem is when a person gives their opinion and someone responds by suggesting their opinion is of no value because of who they are, while ignoring the other person's ideas. Are you saying you are OK with that?

To be clear, I have NO problem with owning one's opinions. I do have a problem when a one cannot give one's opinions without a personal attack. I know that the current caustic climate often deems that OK, but I will not. Ever.

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Sep 30, 2018 16:57:35   #
Glenn Harve
 
LA wrote:
Thought police? Liberal dribble? Cupcake? Safe room? How did you miss snowflake?

No one is controlling your thoughts as long as they are civil. Are you suggesting civility is passe? Hope not.
What is your problem with critiquing the ideas presented but NOT the person?

From your response here, you have no idea of the distinction I was making. Nothing I said has anything to do with not owning your opinions, does it? Just the opposite: virtual everything I said was that criticizing someone's IDEAS was perfectly OK. If I'm wrong, please show me how, but I don't think you can. My problem is when a person gives their opinion and someone responds by suggesting their opinion is of no value because of who they are, while ignoring the other person's ideas. Are you saying you are OK with that?

To be clear, I have NO problem with owning one's opinions. I do have a problem when a one cannot give one's opinions without a personal attack. I know that the current caustic climate often deems that OK, but I will not. Ever.
Thought police? Liberal dribble? Cupcake? Safe r... (show quote)


A person is defined by their ideas, period. Only fools think the two can be separted. You pretending that some psuedo academic "civility" layer insulates you from that reality is naive. Do you not realize that people see right through that? Or maybe thats only "some people", as you put it. Your posts are permeated by what you profess to find despicable. Over, and out.

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Sep 30, 2018 18:13:58   #
LA Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
Glenn Harve wrote:
A person is defined by their ideas, period. Only fools think the two can be separted. You pretending that some psuedo academic "civility" layer insulates you from that reality is naive. Do you not realize that people see right through that? Or maybe thats only "some people", as you put it. Your posts are permeated by what you profess to find despicable. Over, and out.


So I take it, you think that it was perfectly OK for Sen. Cory Booker to say that supporters of Judge Kavanaugh are "complicit in evil," you would defend his saying that. I would not. I find it despicable, to use your term. The judge does not deserve it.

But you reject civility. At least that is out in the open.

I know people who will not associate with those with different views because they have demonized those others. They are the real "fools." It has not always been thus, but I fear that it may never change in my lifetime.

Please understand that it doesn't bother me when subjected to personal attacks. I see it as a statement about the attacker, not me. That person has a weak case and cannot propose a counterargument. Which perfectly describes your comments here, all personal attacks, no substance. But I have confidence in you: that you can do better, that you can actually develop a coherent argument without ad hominem.

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Sep 30, 2018 21:04:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
There is nothing to be gained when engaging a provocateur - it's a lot like arguing with an idiot - they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. . .

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Sep 30, 2018 21:25:42   #
LA Loc: Little Rock, AR
 
There's wisdom in that.

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Oct 2, 2018 00:07:13   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
RickTaylor wrote:
I wouldn’t sell to you because you are a weasel it has nothing to do with your money. As I stated in my past post you are type of customer that just likes to waste my time getting free advice only to the go price shop for the same item a nickel cheaper somewhere else. Then you would have the guts to bring the item back to my store that you purchased elsewhere and want more free advice when you didn’t understand how something functioned. You think your are being a smart shopper but the reality is you are a pain in my a**!
I wouldn’t sell to you because you are a weasel it... (show quote)


evidently you don't know what you are talking about here.

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Oct 2, 2018 05:44:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jim quist wrote:
evidently you don't know what you are talking about here.


Jim, there is nothing wrong with price shopping. We all do it. The role of the retailer is to help and educate and build a trustful relationship with the customer. If that means giving some free advice, that's fine. Often losing a small sale to honesty results in bigger sales and more customers through personal referral down the road. If you do the right thing they will repay your honesty and integrity with they loyalty. I will pay a little more for something from a vendor I like than go for the cheap price all the time. But commodity items are hard to build a thriving business on. There is a lot of competition at the bottom - either from vendors or with manufacturers of knockoff versions. These are best purchased from the lowest priced vendor.

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