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Aug 10, 2012 17:54:10   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
I am really anal about putting my lens cap on and also have hoods on all the lens that accept one. After reading all the links, I am still going to go without the filters....

Don't you find it difficult to put the cap on and off with the hood in place? When I try to use the center squeeze points, I can't get a good grip. I wind up using either the hood or the cap.


Have not had a problem with that. I lay the cap on top..then squezze it....
quote=jerryc41 quote=BigGWells I am really anal ... (show quote)

I'll have to work on that. They could have designed them with a rearward slope or a grippy surface.
quote=BigGWells quote=jerryc41 quote=BigGWells ... (show quote)


Jerry, one thing that works good is to borrow one of your wifes emery boards that she uses on her nails, and use the end of it to roughen up the surfaces where you pinch the lens caps. It is almost imperceptible, but that little bit of abrasion really makes a big difference getting a grip on the cap to remove, or to install it inside that hood.

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Aug 10, 2012 18:02:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
I am really anal about putting my lens cap on and also have hoods on all the lens that accept one. After reading all the links, I am still going to go without the filters....

Don't you find it difficult to put the cap on and off with the hood in place? When I try to use the center squeeze points, I can't get a good grip. I wind up using either the hood or the cap.


Have not had a problem with that. I lay the cap on top..then squezze it....
quote=jerryc41 quote=BigGWells I am really anal ... (show quote)

I'll have to work on that. They could have designed them with a rearward slope or a grippy surface.
quote=BigGWells quote=jerryc41 quote=BigGWells ... (show quote)


Jerry, one thing that works good is to borrow one of your wifes emery boards that she uses on her nails, and use the end of it to roughen up the surfaces where you pinch the lens caps. It is almost imperceptible, but that little bit of abrasion really makes a big difference getting a grip on the cap to remove, or to install it inside that hood.
quote=jerryc41 quote=BigGWells quote=jerryc41 ... (show quote)

Good idea. I wonder if B&H sells a product specifically for that purpose. If not, they should. :D

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Aug 10, 2012 19:24:16   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
As I have stated before - as I was taught how to survive with out a lens hood and I really never use one so the problem of instantly replacing or removing my lens cap is as normal as breathing.
Harvey wrote:
This is my system:
Lens cap with a teather on all lens.
UV filter on in conditions dangerous to my lens - such as dust, sea spray, rain or snow

comon sence tells me when one is required.
JMHO :)

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Aug 10, 2012 19:46:09   #
desertRat1950
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods for some "protection"

BigGWells wrote:
The things one can learn from UHH. I am pulling my all of my lens filters off today. In the past I was pretty much a point and shoot on auto, since really delveing into photography and reading more and more, I have certainly changed a lot. UHH has helped me so much. I like the many sides of things. As with anything everyone has their likes and dislikes.....

thanks so much everyone.
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods fo... (show quote)


I can't conceive of a lens being off a camera without a rear cap for more that the amount of time time it takes to attach the cap. As far as the front of the lens is concerned using a lens hood offers good protection and will improve your images as well, and even here the rule of thumb should be cap it, cap it and cape it some more!!!!!!!!!

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Aug 10, 2012 19:56:27   #
desertRat1950
 
desertRat1950 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods for some "protection"

BigGWells wrote:
The things one can learn from UHH. I am pulling my all of my lens filters off today. In the past I was pretty much a point and shoot on auto, since really delveing into photography and reading more and more, I have certainly changed a lot. UHH has helped me so much. I like the many sides of things. As with anything everyone has their likes and dislikes.....

thanks so much everyone.
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods fo... (show quote)


I can't conceive of a lens being off a camera without a rear cap for more that the amount of time time it takes to attach the cap. As far as the front of the lens is concerned using a lens hood offers good protection and will improve your images as well, and even here the rule of thumb should be cap it, cap it and cape it some more!!!!!!!!!
quote=Screamin Scott Just remember to use your le... (show quote)


BTW: A really good investment is a bulb blower (not compressed air = bad bad news for camera gear), which you should periodically use to blow dust and loose debris from both the exposed elements of your lens and the insides of your lens caps. (dirty caps lead to dirty lenses)

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Aug 10, 2012 20:14:44   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
Definatly when one is changing lens - cap both ends & cap the camera when with or without a lens- geeees dust & po po gets into every where when it has a chance. caps are indespencable - cheapest protection one can buy.
desertRat1950 wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods for some "protection"

BigGWells wrote:
The things one can learn from UHH. I am pulling my all of my lens filters off today. In the past I was pretty much a point and shoot on auto, since really delveing into photography and reading more and more, I have certainly changed a lot. UHH has helped me so much. I like the many sides of things. As with anything everyone has their likes and dislikes.....

thanks so much everyone.
Just remember to use your lens caps & hoods fo... (show quote)


I can't conceive of a lens being off a camera without a rear cap for more that the amount of time time it takes to attach the cap. As far as the front of the lens is concerned using a lens hood offers good protection and will improve your images as well, and even here the rule of thumb should be cap it, cap it and cape it some more!!!!!!!!!
quote=Screamin Scott Just remember to use your le... (show quote)

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Aug 10, 2012 20:23:46   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
A good lens hood for every lens & proper use of each was something I could or can afford - But proper compsition & a shading device - hat, small refelecting screeen-even my gray card, finding something to use as a sun block - a power pole. tree. sign post, even asking help from a companion on our photo safari works wonders on eliminating sun flare & giving proper lens cover.

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Aug 10, 2012 20:55:31   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
I am really anal about putting my lens cap on and also have hoods on all the lens that accept one. After reading all the links, I am still going to go without the filters....

Don't you find it difficult to put the cap on and off with the hood in place? When I try to use the center squeeze points, I can't get a good grip. I wind up using either the hood or the cap.


Me too! Caps are a true pain and IMHO unnecessary with a hood.

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Aug 10, 2012 21:37:03   #
deej
 
jerryc41 wrote:
BigGWells wrote:
I am really anal about putting my lens cap on and also have hoods on all the lens that accept one. After reading all the links, I am still going to go without the filters....

Don't you find it difficult to put the cap on and off with the hood in place? When I try to use the center squeeze points, I can't get a good grip. I wind up using either the hood or the cap.


Jerry, I know you read Ken Rockwell, he states to glue small strips of sand paper to the tangs on your lens cap that you grip to help with the grip factor. Ken also recommends Nikon original caps on all cameras including use on Canons. I assume they make-em (caps) to fit those too but don't know. I personally have not had this problem but keep it in mind.

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Aug 10, 2012 21:52:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Harvey wrote:
As far as the front of the lens is concerned using a lens hood offers good protection and will improve your images as well, and even here the rule of thumb should be cap it, cap it and cape it some more!!!!!!!!!

I have a bunch of extra caps -front, rear, and body, that I got from Hong Kong for about a dollar each. I don't like having the lens cap attached with a string, so occasionally I misplace one cap and use another. Then the first one turns up.

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Aug 11, 2012 09:17:50   #
Hankwt Loc: kingsville ontario
 
looks like a 50 - 50 split for and against Maybe ill use them on half my lenses !!

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Aug 11, 2012 09:23:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Hankwt wrote:
looks like a 50 - 50 split for and against Maybe ill use them on half my lenses !!

I have UV filters on all my lenses. If I am just out shooting, I leave it on. If it's something a bit special, I take it off. With all the off/on, I don't worry about the threads getting stuck. I've done some test shots with & without, and there isn't much of a difference - some, but not decisive.

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Aug 11, 2012 13:52:59   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
If we really cared about image quality we would use a tripod.
Any degradation caused by a filter is minimal compared to camera shake.

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Aug 11, 2012 13:54:56   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
But not when using flash, where you can that is

Griff wrote:
If we really cared about image quality we would use a tripod.
Any degradation caused by a filter is minimal compared to camera shake.

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Aug 11, 2012 13:59:43   #
desertRat1950
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
But not when using flash, where you can that is

Griff wrote:
If we really cared about image quality we would use a tripod.
Any degradation caused by a filter is minimal compared to camera shake.


Tripods also make you think about your shots more...amazing how that can improve things too.

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