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Sep 19, 2018 09:08:39   #
jcboy3
 
Hammer wrote:
I just saw a video by Steve Perry . It showed him using a RRS unit with a clamp on the tripod/monopod and a "fitting" on the ballhead that allowed rapid swapping . The RRS product codes are : B2-LR-11 & TH-DVTR-40.

The costs made my eyes water a bit . So just wonder if any of you Hoggers out there have used these and are aware of any cheaper alternatives?


There are a lot of alternatives. There are Arca clamps and plates that are a lot cheaper; I like Sunwayfoto for a medium price point but there are even cheaper. Or you can look at something like the Manfrotto 577; again there are a lot of even cheaper alternative manufacturers.

I do recommend that you use plates for either system that have a 3/8" screw; these will fit tripod heads without an adapter and are more secure.

The issue with these systems is that they add another mounting that can work loose, especially when using a gimbal head and large lens. In my case, I drilled a couple of small holes in the bottom of my gimbal head and drilled and tapped matching cap screws in the mounting plate for anti-twist. Rock solid mounting.

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Sep 19, 2018 09:30:54   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Larryshuman wrote:
No doubt RRS manufactures great photo equipment. I paid Kirk Enterprises $625 for my G-1 Gimbal. RRS's exact match is $1495.00. That's $840 more than mine. As for putting a 600mm on a monopod, I don't recommend it unless you use a heavy monopod like mine. I use a Gitzo 5561 with a monopod head that will take 55lbs.Its the same leg that's on my big tripod GT5561SGT. I did put my 600mm on my big monopod at Magee Marsh and I had a constant sense of tip over. No the cost of 70 openings for Steve Perry's Costa Rico workshop is $4207. Times 70 spots is $294,490. His clear profit would around 50%. I know this because I have cost out a Grizzly Bear photo tour to Kamai and I first figure all my costs then double the number. Turns out I'm not good at sales and Outdoor Photography charged me $479.00 per Month for a 2x1 B/W that I made. So if your good at sales and have a wealth of photo experience your all set.
No doubt RRS manufactures great photo equipment. I... (show quote)


You may want to go back and read the specs on the Kirk and RRS gimbals you are comparing. They are not even close to being an exact match. You have to do more than look at the pictures.

BTW - RRS does list less expensive models than the one you chose for your comparison.

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Sep 19, 2018 09:38:57   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Bill_de wrote:
You may want to go back and read the specs on the Kirk and RRS gimbals you are comparing. They are not even close to being an exact match. You have to do more than look at the pictures.

BTW - RRS does list less expensive models than the one you chose for your comparison.

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After thousands of pictures I have never had any twisting, loosening or any other issues with bigger lenses nor have I heard of any that did unless they opted for inexpensive choices.
Wimberley products have been trouble free as well.

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Sep 19, 2018 09:49:13   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Larryshuman wrote:
When you are a multiple millionaire costs are no issue after all he has 70 spots on his Costa Rico trips and that brought in over $300,000. Don't get me wrong, I think he is probably one of the best presenters and writers on the internet, I have both of his ebooks. Just look at the new Nikon equipment he buys. You have to be rich to afford those credit card payments.


The total gross for the 70 trips is indeed close to $300,000. However, the resort doesn't let everyone stay for free, the airline that gets people here from San Jose doesn't do it for free, the guides and drivers aren't free, the support staff isn't free, the use of the trucks isn't free, the entrance fees for some of the places we go aren't free, the gas isn't free, the food isn't free - need I go on? All of the above and more is included with that workshop fee.

While I refuse to disclose what I do make on each trip, I will tell you it's far less than you estimate and that I'm nowhere near a millionaire (although, I'm certainly not opposed to the idea :). The gear I purchase is for doing business, and it is quite frankly cheap compared to the equipment required to run most businesses. I managed a photo lab about 20 years ago and at the time the start up cost was well north of $200,000. Most restaurant franchises today require at least $250,00 ~ $300,000 for a ground-up start. By comparison, the business expense of doing wildlife photography is relatively cheap, even if you have a lot of gear. Plus, every single piece of gear I purchase makes me money, so I'd literally be out the income if I didn't make those purchases.

The problem here is simply looking at it from a hobbyist standpoint rather than a business standpoint.

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Sep 19, 2018 09:51:02   #
celticursa Loc: Coastal Bend of Texas
 
Read this eBay page carefully...it describes an L-plate for a Sony camera, NOT the RRS Clamp in the photo.

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Sep 19, 2018 09:52:53   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
DaveO wrote:
To those concerned with speculation about the income of another individual:

Who the hell cares how much money anyone makes? Obviously a few do, but I think starting your own thread on the subject may be more appropriate if you want to swap rumors.



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Sep 19, 2018 09:53:15   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
DaveO wrote:
He is most likely laughing about the perceived profit stated! LOL!


He is

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Sep 19, 2018 09:53:43   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Grace98 wrote:
I think your post is uncalled for and nothing to do with the topic. It is very nice of Steve Perry to share his knowledge with us. What he earns from his Costa Rica workshops is none of our business and why shouldn't he earn some money out of them for all the work and trouble? If I was a professional photographer of his calibre, I too would buy all the latest gear. Now I've had my "rant".



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Sep 19, 2018 09:54:05   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
BTW - here's a link to the video / topic on my site:

https://backcountrygallery.com/swap-tripod-heads-the-fast-way/

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Sep 19, 2018 09:57:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Steve Perry wrote:
He is


Hopefully you'll be laughing even louder when the first and second million roll in.

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Sep 19, 2018 10:07:19   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Bill_de wrote:
Hopefully you'll be laughing even louder when the first and second million roll in.

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LOL, fingers crossed :)

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Sep 19, 2018 10:23:39   #
Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC
 
Steve Perry wrote:
The total gross for the 70 trips is indeed close to $300,000. However, the resort doesn't let everyone stay for free, the airline that gets people here from San Jose doesn't do it for free, the guides and drivers aren't free, the support staff isn't free, the use of the trucks isn't free, the entrance fees for some of the places we go aren't free, the gas isn't free, the food isn't free - need I go on? All of the above and more is included with that workshop fee.

While I refuse to disclose what I do make on each trip, I will tell you it's far less than you estimate and that I'm nowhere near a millionaire (although, I'm certainly not opposed to the idea :). The gear I purchase is for doing business, and it is quite frankly cheap compared to the equipment required to run most businesses. I managed a photo lab about 20 years ago and at the time the start up cost was well north of $200,000. Most restaurant franchises today require at least $250,00 ~ $300,000 for a ground-up start. By comparison, the business expense of doing wildlife photography is relatively cheap, even if you have a lot of gear. Plus, every single piece of gear I purchase makes me money, so I'd literally be out the income if I didn't make those purchases.

The problem here is simply looking at it from a hobbyist standpoint rather than a business standpoint.
The total gross for the 70 trips is indeed close t... (show quote)

As a former business-owner I can certainly appreciate all you stated as to what goes into a business. I think you forgot about insurance, computer & software expenses, etc.. Where others might be seeing it, their vantage point is simply from the individual hobbyist point of view.

For me, I love your work, enjoy your videos, heck, I even bought your book! I was given some advice long ago: "Illegitimus Non Carborundum" (don't let the bastards wear you down)!

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Sep 19, 2018 10:40:08   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Gitchigumi wrote:
As a former business-owner I can certainly appreciate all you stated as to what goes into a business. I think you forgot about insurance, computer & software expenses, etc.. Where others might be seeing it, their vantage point is simply from the individual hobbyist point of view.

For me, I love your work, enjoy your videos, heck, I even bought your book! I was given some advice long ago: "Illegitimus Non Carborundum" (don't let the bastards wear you down)!
As a former business-owner I can certainly appreci... (show quote)


Yup, forgot all that - but it's there for sure. We had to take out special liability insurance, pay a lawyer to work up a liability agreement, and on and on!

Oh, and I never let anyone get me down :) Besides, I don't think the poster was trying to be mean or anything.

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Sep 19, 2018 10:41:53   #
jmw44 Loc: Princeton, NJ USA
 
[quote=Steve Perry]The total gross for the 70 trips is indeed close to $300,000. . . .

Of course. Thanks for setting the record straight and even more, thanks for your great videos and ebooks. They have totally changed and greatly improved my photography. Please keep up the good work!

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Sep 19, 2018 11:13:59   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
Thanks so much for the info , will have. look at these

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