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Sep 16, 2018 21:30:13 #
Gene51 wrote:
Putting aside personal stuff, you are 100% correct... (show quote)
Re learning from trolls: even a blind pig finds an occasional acorn.
Sep 16, 2018 21:33:14 #
I use it only for rude, combative people who levy personal ad hominem attacks. A spirited argument/discussion or disagreement is fine. If it goes on ad nauseum or the person is intransigent in the face of obvious facts, I just drop out.
Sep 17, 2018 07:17:04 #
TriX wrote:
I use it only for rude, combative people who levy personal ad hominem attacks. A spirited argument/discussion or disagreement is fine. If it goes on ad nauseum or the person is intransigent in the face of obvious facts, I just drop out.
A couple of years ago I put ONE person on my ignore list, because he was very caustic and nasty to everyone. I didn't care to see his comments.
(He was eventually suspended.)
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Sep 17, 2018 08:18:25 #
Gene51 wrote:
Is it me? It seems that the least knowledgeable pe... (show quote)
Couldn't agree with you more sir! The 'Ignore Button' is the least productive (most destructive?)capability UHH has implemented to date for all the observed reasons. It simply stifles discussion and the need to intelligently discuss one's position.... If it seems like one's rationale isn't holding up to objective OR subjective scrutiny, no problem, Ignore Button to the rescue!
A good healthy debate is one of THE best learning tools out there, but social media often allows one to opt out such a debate too easily. None of this should justify arrogant, aggressive or mean spirited behavior however.....again, a symptom of this kind of social media.... Either participate or don't, but if you do, participate with learning or imparting photographic knowledge as the goal. And so it goes....
Sep 17, 2018 08:20:06 #
PeterBergh wrote:
Re learning from trolls: even a blind pig finds an occasional acorn.
I am NOT blind!
Sep 17, 2018 08:22:19 #
TriX wrote:
I use it only for rude, combative people who levy personal ad hominem attacks. A spirited argument/discussion or disagreement is fine. If it goes on ad nauseum or the person is intransigent in the face of obvious facts, I just drop out.
Sep 17, 2018 10:03:16 #
Longshadow wrote:
A couple of years ago I put ONE person on my ignore list, because he was very caustic and nasty to everyone. I didn't care to see his comments.
(He was eventually suspended.)
A couple of years ago I put ONE person on my ignore list, because he was very caustic and nasty to everyone. I didn't care to see his comments.
(He was eventually suspended.)
I now find it necessary to research the posting habits of anyone I do not know before responding to them. If they spend an inordinate amount of time in the Attic, never post their own images or seem to habitually post negative comments, I just move on and pay no attention. If they insist on attacking me, I may Ignore them just to get them off my thread if I can't take them out with a single response.
Not everyone comes here to seek or offer advice. Some just want attention. They post a lot of complements in the hope of seeing the favor returned. Others seem to have nothing better to do but generate dozens of posts per day when they don't really have much of substance to offer. I can give them all a pass.
Opinions are personal and it doesn't pay to argue about them. But when it comes to posting false or misleading "facts" and then defending them with absurd arguments, it's good to see that there are many of us here willing to debunk them.
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Sep 17, 2018 12:02:51 #
Gene51 wrote:
At the very least, it gives me a chance to improve on my patience - though I must say that ArtBob was quite a challenge. I do not have anyone on an ignore list, though I am sure that I am on many ignore lists - their loss, I suppose.
I try to do the same. Nobody is on my "ignore" filter - if you find a person's posts to be inane, uninformative, or just generally nasty, you don't really need a button to ignore them.
And yes, anyone who deliberately "ignores" the wealth of good advice you, and many others, post just because they're insecure in their opinions or unsure of their facts (well, in ArtBob's case, "non-facts"), is definitely missing out on a lot of knowledge.
Andy
Sep 17, 2018 12:45:49 #
Gene51 wrote:
Of course. But it is an observation that I find completely bewildering and totally counterproductive to their goal, don't you agree?
Let me 'splain it to you Gene. People who use the ignore function already know everything. Their mission is to educate all the less fortunates. Anyone, such as yourself, who believe they have something constructive to add are just a distraction and a roadblock to higher learning.
Sep 17, 2018 16:08:51 #
Bill_de wrote:
Let me 'splain it to you Gene. People who use the ... (show quote)
I'm sorry, Bill, but that's not always true. I don't know that much, but I still occasionally use the ignore function, primarily to block PM's. Anyone on my ignore list stays there a short time, because, in a short time, animosities are forgotten. And, to my recollection, there have never been more than two people on my list at any one time. I don't think there have been more than a half dozen total that have been ignored, but some people (one in particular) have been on the lint more than one time. I encouraged the implementation of such a list years ago, but only as a "cooling off" mechanism. If anyone has more than two or three members on their list or, if anybody is added to a list with the idea that the ban will be permanent, the list, in my opinion, is being misused. Some of the most obnoxious members of this forum are among the brightest. Why would I not take advantage of that?
Sep 17, 2018 20:59:22 #
BHC wrote:
I'm sorry, Bill, but that's not always true. I do... (show quote)
Does anyone know what this means.
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Sep 18, 2018 01:38:06 #
Bill_de wrote:
Does anyone know what this means.
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OK, I'll admit I'm as dense as a black hole, but I don't understand your reply.
Sep 18, 2018 06:55:04 #
Bill_de wrote:
Does anyone know what this means.
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Yea, I got it. (He removes them from the list after a while to see how they are.)
Sep 18, 2018 17:04:38 #
Longshadow wrote:
Yea, I got it. (He removes them from the list after a while to see how they are.)
Right. Leaving someone on the list permanently accomplished nothing and may deny the Lister the benefit of important information. Are you seeking a solution to a problem (which will eventually go away) or are you extracting retribution?
Sep 18, 2018 17:32:02 #
BHC wrote:
Right. Leaving someone on the list permanently accomplished nothing and may deny the Lister the benefit of important information. Are you seeking a solution to a problem (which will eventually go away) or are you extracting retribution?
While I agree in principle, there are a handful of Attic dwellers who emerge occasionally with the express intent to disrupt a thread. It’s easier to simply block them permanently.
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