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Sep 13, 2018 13:01:06   #
Robyn H Loc: MainLine PA
 
Chris T wrote:
Yes, I know, Jerry ... but, with thumb drives becoming increasingly more common, and with larger capacities - who knows?



I know of no cameras that use USB flash drives or thumb drives as they are commonly referred to. As for your unfounded fear that SD cards are going away, they are not. Even the smallest cards available, the micro SD cards come with a standard SD card adapter. I have micro SD card with two terabytes of storage. That's a whole lot of shooting; and I've never had one fail, micro SD card.

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Sep 13, 2018 13:11:39   #
Elsiss Loc: Bayside, NY, Boynton Beach, Fl.
 
SD cards are convenient, inexpensive, and reliable. I have many which will probably outlive me!

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Sep 13, 2018 13:11:57   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Robyn H wrote:
I know of no cameras that use USB flash drives or thumb drives as they are commonly referred to. As for your unfounded fear that SD cards are going away, they are not. Even the smallest cards available, the micro SD cards come with a standard SD card adapter. I have micro SD card with two terabytes of storage. That's a whole lot of shooting; and I've never had one fail, micro SD card.


Don't have any micros, Robyn ... TWO TB, huh? ... wow!!!!

I've had three SD cards fail, so far, Robyn ...

It's a matter of mileage, I guess ... sooner or later, the more you drive - the greater the likelihood - you'll have a flat!!!!

And - that scenario - has come into place, more times than I care to remember ...

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Sep 13, 2018 13:30:41   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Chris T wrote:
Me, neither, Bill ... no MILCs in MY future ...

You actually have a camera which won't use a card larger than 4GB, huh, Bill ... my, oh, my ... that must be ancient!!!!

Actually, I think I have one of those, somewhere ... only takes an 8GB card ... but, it's not even a bridge ...

It's one of those fold-out thingies, Staples was giving away with a $100 purchase ... a sales gimmick!!!!



A Sony H1 (Bridge camera???) purchased 1/2006. 5 Mp and uses memory sticks.
Takes great pictures and focuses down to 2cm.

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Sep 13, 2018 16:20:53   #
mgoldfield
 
Chris T wrote:
Now, with the advent of the XQD Card, along with the CFAST 2.0 High Speed Compact Flash Card, the lowly SD card seems to becoming extinct, doesn't it? ... And, now, with the super-fast UHS-2 SDXC cards becoming more prominent, will the SD Card go way of the Betamax and the VHS VCR ... all but gone, except to the collector (in the first case) and unusable, and surpassed - by the ease of use of the DVD - in the latter case? ...


Come on Chris, gimme a break!
SD cards are fine and here to stay.

Shouldn't you be out taking pictures instead of raising these absurd issues.

The BetaMax was in production for 27 years, and it's barely three years
than Sony ceased production on Beta tapes.

SD cards are alive and well and will be around for many years
to come; just check Amazon and remember SD cards are a storage
medium used in countless MILLIONS of cameras and other digital devices.

Rest easy!

M. Goldfield

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Sep 13, 2018 16:29:48   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Elsiss wrote:
SD cards are convenient, inexpensive, and reliable. I have many which will probably outlive me!


Yup, me, too, Elsiss ... they're all over the place ... convenient, they are ... I'll give you that ....

But, on the other two counts - not so sure ... I see a card here in the catalogue, listing for $999.99 ... hardly inexpensive!!!!

As for reliability ... so, far - I've lost three ... which, in a couple of cases, wasn't so bad ...

But the last one was a 64GB .... and THAT one - HURT!


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Sep 13, 2018 16:38:15   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Longshadow wrote:
A Sony H1 (Bridge camera???) purchased 1/2006. 5 Mp and uses memory sticks.
Takes great pictures and focuses down to 2cm.


Dunno, Bill ... not familiar with that particular one ...

I think - the formal definition of a bridge (IMHO) is a digicam - capable of a long throw - say 24-600, or 720, or 810, or 1200.

And, which looks - in every way - like a mini-version of a small DSLR ... I have several bridges the same size as an APS-C !!!!

My only Sony bridge is the one listed down there ... it's a Cybershot HX100V ... starts at 27mm, zooms out to 810 (16mp)

They called it a 30x back then. Not sure that would follow, today ... now, they're out to 1200 and one is around 1365!!!

I think the V on the end denotes it's Video Capable ... not sure what the H is all about .... HOT - maybe???



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Sep 13, 2018 16:41:48   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
mgoldfield wrote:
Come on Chris, gimme a break!
SD cards are fine and here to stay.

Shouldn't you be out taking pictures instead of raising these absurd issues.

The BetaMax was in production for 27 years, and it's barely three years
than Sony ceased production on Beta tapes.

SD cards are alive and well and will be around for many years
to come; just check Amazon and remember SD cards are a storage
medium used in countless MILLIONS of cameras and other digital devices.

Rest easy!

M. Goldfield
Come on Chris, gimme a break! br SD cards are fine... (show quote)


I know, M ... and thanks for your reassurances ....

I was trying to equate this debate with the one raging now, about the Mirror-less invasion ousting the DSLR!!!!!

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Sep 13, 2018 21:35:00   #
gwilliams6
 
Robyn H wrote:
Huh...? Sony may make pretty good sensors but based on recent history they make fairly mediocre cameras. If their cameras are as good as so many people want to believe then why do they have to constantly update them. As for the demise of the DSLR, they will be making DSLR'S for years to come.


Duh, Sony makes great mirrorless cameras and updates them to get the latest tech advances into consumers hands quickly, not like the years of drip, drip updates from other camera makers. That is one of the reasons, as a longtime pro, that I switched from Canon and Nikon DSLRs (after 40 years) to Sony mirrorless back in January 2017 and have never looked back. The distinct advantages of mirrorless and Sony's superior sensor tech, and better and better cameras is why Nikon and Canon are now trying to chase Sony in the fullframe mirrorless market.

Increasing numbers of pros and amateurs alike now know Sony is here to stay and will keep innovating and pushing the envelope in mirrorless. Just a few of the many pros who have switched from DSLRs to Sony mirrorless and are loving it. :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/ https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/ https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski
https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGk

http://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169s
Many Pros shooting Sony mirrorless at 2018 US Open Tennis Championships. Here is just one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Tlej_oatY&feature=share
Shooting the Sony A9 & the FE400mm f/2.8GM at the US Open - 2018

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Sep 13, 2018 21:36:58   #
Stan Gould Loc: La Crosse, Wisconsin
 
Stan Gould wrote:
Extinction is just another step in the process of life, Stan ... albeit ... the last for each one of us ...


As the saying goes, life is a terminal disease! (Assuming there isn’t an after-life, something I wouldn’t bet on.)

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Sep 13, 2018 21:51:54   #
mgoldfield
 
Chris T wrote:
I know, M ... and thanks for your reassurances ....

I was trying to equate this debate with the one raging now, about the Mirror-less invasion ousting the DSLR!!!!!


Have no fear. There are enough photographers who want an optical viewfinder and are willing to live with a mirror and a pentaprism. DSLRs will be around for a long time!

I wouldn't mind a mirrorless as a second camera. I am intrigued by the Sigma SD Quattro,
currently $699, a very impressive camera. Sadly, I can't fit it into my budget right now.

Check it out:
https://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/mirrorless/sd-quattro-camera

M. Goldfield

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Sep 14, 2018 02:14:03   #
Robyn H Loc: MainLine PA
 
Yes Chris, two terabytes, that's 2048 gigabyte's. As far as having cards fail, either you bought cheap SD cards or you used them well past their usable limit. Yes, there is a limit to how many times a card may be written to but don't ask me to explain, there are several variables in play that determine the cards life expectancy.

Several years ago a group of friends and myself decided to see America at see level. We traveled from just west of Philadelphia PA to Atlantic City NJ where everyone touched the Atlantic ocean. From there we headed south to Cape May and took the ferry over to Delaware. We continued south and crossed over the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay on the bay bridge tunnel complex to mainland Virginia. We continued south into North Carolina and crossed over onto the outer Banks. We camped just south of Buxton NC on Hatteras island. The next day we took the ferry to Ockracoke island then another ferry to the mainland. We continued south until we reached St. Petersburg FL where everyone touched the gulf of Mexico. Next we traveled north then west to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California where we reached the Pacific ocean at Morro beach. From there we traveled north along the Pacific coast to San Francisco. We crossed the golden gate, went a little farther north then turned east toward Yosemite. After stopping at Yosemite we headed across Nevada to Utah and the great salt lake. From there we went north into Idaho and then on to Bozeman MT. Next we went South into Wyoming and Yellow Stone park. Next we went to Cheyenne Wyoming then Denver Colorado before heading east through Nebraska, Iowa, Indiana, Ohio, West Virginia then back into Pennsylvania and on to home. We touched two oceans and the Gulf of Mexico, visited several national parks, traveled over six thousand miles, on motorcycles and there wasn't a single flat tire.

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Sep 14, 2018 07:00:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
The DSLR market must be slowing down, need a new thing to sell to people.....

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Sep 14, 2018 08:51:19   #
gwilliams6
 
Longshadow wrote:
The DSLR market must be slowing down, need a new thing to sell to people.....


All camera sales are down, worldwide (cell phone cameras have a lot to do with that). As the overall market is shrinking, DSLR sales are dropping, mirrorless sales are rising. DSLRs wont disappear any time soon, but their market dominance is over, whether you believe it or not. As more camera makers jump into both the low and high end of mirrorless cameras, expect development money and advertising dollars to shift there also. You still can keep and use whatever you like, DSLR or mirrorless and yes there will be some additional DSLRs released from time to time, but the handwriting is on the wall and camera makers see their future in mirrorless. BTW that cell phone camera you use means most of you are already shooting mirrorless, and most of those cell phone cameras are made by Sony. Cheers

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Sep 14, 2018 15:44:44   #
Robyn H Loc: MainLine PA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
All camera sales are down, worldwide (cell phone cameras have a lot to do with that). As the overall market is shrinking, DSLR sales are dropping, mirrorless sales are rising. DSLRs wont disappear any time soon, but their market dominance is over, whether you believe it or not. As more camera makers jump into both the low and high end of mirrorless cameras, expect development money and advertising dollars to shift there also. You still can keep and use whatever you like, DSLR or mirrorless and yes there will be some additional DSLRs released from time to time, but the handwriting is on the wall and camera makers see their future in mirrorless. BTW that cell phone camera you use means most of you are already shooting mirrorless, and most of those cell phone cameras are made by Sony. Cheers
All camera sales are down, worldwide (cell phone c... (show quote)


I wouldn't say most cell phone cameras are made by Sony. I'd figure after Sony bought Toshiba's digital imaging division, Sony now has around a 40% share of the cell phone camera market. Far from most.

As for terminology, any camera without a mirror is a mirrorless camera. What many, many people refer to as mirrorless are more accurately MILC'S or Mirrorless Interchangeable Lens Camera, just like DSLR is Digital Single Lens Reflex. My Canon G1X mk III does not have a mirror making it mirrorless but it also doesn't have a removable lens so it is not a MILC. My Canon M50 also does not have a mirror making it a mirrorless camera, but more accurately it does have interchangeable lenses making it, more accurately, a MILC.

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