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Oct 31, 2011 13:52:03   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
This holds fairly true with any profession. Remember, a Dr. PRACTICES medicine, just like an attorney PRACTICES law. A license doesn't make you a pro. Just look at the other drivers out there, they might all be licensed, but there are licensed drivers who shouldn't be behind the wheel.

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Oct 31, 2011 14:03:34   #
Ray Bullock Loc: Redding, CA
 
Is it a FULL MOON??? lol

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Oct 31, 2011 14:16:28   #
picturedude Loc: Yosemite natl. park, Ca.
 
Blueduck wrote:
Wow, this is a very telling topic. The frustration levels are thru the roof. Why not reply "look in your manual" or "if you do'nt have a manual the company will send you one" or there are many web sites that will explain that in detail, or ,JUST IGNOR the question, and look to next one that does'nt bother you. I'm sure most newbies do'nt want to make anyone mad, they are just trying to to get an easier to understand answer. By the way anyone out there know how to turn on a d300s? I've tried wine , choc, soft music, nothing seems to work.
Wow, this is a very telling topic. The frustration... (show quote)


Have you tried exposing yourself to it?

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Oct 31, 2011 14:21:07   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
pdwoodswood wrote:
Re: nag's feet jello; I wonder if that was the first film emulsion?

Seems like it was collagen from something????


In case some didn't quite gel the "nag's feet" remark...
Gelatin (or gelatine) is a translucent, colorless, brittle (when dry), flavorless solid substance, derived from the collagen inside animals' skin and bones. It is commonly used as a gelling agent in food, pharmaceuticals, photography, and cosmetic manufacturing.
Lime Jello is a gelatin product...for years, many have claimed it was made from horses hooves...the truth, as usual, is most likely even more disturbing. Even though I know where it comes from, I still like Lime Jello.
The idea of licensing photographers is totally bogus. If you wish to be a professional you must sell your photographs. The quality of your work and the free market will "license" your activities. The public will either pay for your photos or they won't...........

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Oct 31, 2011 14:59:08   #
blackmtnman
 
I have been a photographer for many years...and I was a pro. I made my living at it. Got out of it for a long time. I do it now for love, not money, and even though I've sold some images in the last few years, I no longer consider myself a "pro". I AM a photographer.

Take people for what they are worth. I could claim to be pro gigolo, but I'm not. Just because some idiot with a camera calls himself a photographer, doesn't mean we need to be licensed. Enough government intervention as it is.

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Oct 31, 2011 15:05:32   #
KrazyKyngeKorny
 
Same is true of carpenters, electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics, etc. Buy a box of tools for the trade, and, hang out a shingle.

Yes, tradesmen should be licensed. Also, government inspectors should be required to do their job, or, be fired.

Same is true of "Home Inspectors". They come in look around, say you are OK, and charge $700- for NOTHING!

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Oct 31, 2011 15:06:28   #
dongrant Loc: Earth, I think!
 
picturedude wrote:
Blueduck wrote:
Wow, this is a very telling topic. The frustration levels are thru the roof. Why not reply "look in your manual" or "if you do'nt have a manual the company will send you one" or there are many web sites that will explain that in detail, or ,JUST IGNOR the question, and look to next one that does'nt bother you. I'm sure most newbies do'nt want to make anyone mad, they are just trying to to get an easier to understand answer. By the way anyone out there know how to turn on a d300s? I've tried wine , choc, soft music, nothing seems to work.
Wow, this is a very telling topic. The frustration... (show quote)


Have you tried exposing yourself to it?
quote=Blueduck Wow, this is a very telling topic.... (show quote)

Hay, a little decency here if you don't mind. Let's not go around exposing ourselves here.

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Oct 31, 2011 15:33:10   #
JohnnyRottenNJ Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
You are so missing the point. The government doesn't give a fat rat's ass about how many "professional photographers" there are competing to make a buck. They only care that you would be stupid enough to pay the licensing fee to them. I implore you to re-think your position and fight any further government intrusion into our lives and do whatever you can to take back America from these Marxist bastards. Remember:

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.
Thomas Jefferson

History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.
Thomas Jefferson

If God is just, I tremble for my country.
Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

Do you think maybe that Thomas Jefferson had the right idea? Where are George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln when you need them?

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Oct 31, 2011 15:42:15   #
notnoBuddha
 
I understand whatis being said, just not sure who and who what would regulate the regulators. There are more then a few areas that people are convinced that our food supplies, the drug industry, the safety of our very drinking water is being policed but yet read the news. Often those that oversee such operations are the same people who run or profit from the same. A never layer often gives some the chance to corrupt the systen and give a false sense of safety to the public.

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Oct 31, 2011 15:46:31   #
MrScrappyDoo Loc: Massachusetts
 
I'm not sure I'd go as far as a lic# but i'd want a little more than a few photos if I were to hire a photo pro.

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Oct 31, 2011 15:46:47   #
MrScrappyDoo Loc: Massachusetts
 
I agree.I would want to see more than a few photos if I were to hire a Photographer.

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Oct 31, 2011 15:56:35   #
Just Tami Loc: Long Island
 
mommy115 wrote:
Any one who takes photos IS a photographer. To say "I am a photographer" does not mean PRO. And there are hundreds of thousands of us perhaps, and more likely, millions of us. Now your argument about saying Pro is somewhat valid but few of us say that. Yet you are lumping us all into one basket of misrepresentation because an occasional person tacks on the work Pro when they aren't a Pro. Look up 'photographer' in a decent dictionary. One of the definitions is 'someone who takes photos' Now if you are too good for us find a forum of professionals. If you aren't here to help others learn this is not the right place for you. If it causes you anger to be here, I'm sure you can find another forum that may not. This forum is for 'photographers' as per the dictionary definition to learn and become more 'proficient' at their hobby. Maybe someday they will be good enough to be Pros and maybe not. Most don't even have the goal of going pro. Most are honest people who inform family and friends that they are not Pro and it's unlikely they will be hired as a Pro by people if they don't produce a book of photos to show their method of photography. And by the way, most wedding photographers do use photo editing. Even Ansel Adams edited his photos. Photo editing is an art. Yet you must be a photographer so that you have a photo to work on with editing. Editing photos is an additional artform used with photography.
Any one who takes photos IS a photographer. To sa... (show quote)


:thumbup:

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Oct 31, 2011 16:04:24   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
How about those of us out there who shoot for ourselves and praise from others is merely frosting on the cake?? I make photos for my satisfaction and my eye is the one who truely matters. This may sound a bit egocentric but especially if you're a freelance photographer you have nobody to answer to except yourself. If someone asks me to do a shoot (I don't do weddings or graduations)I shoot what I see and they make the decision if what I saw through my eyes is desireable to them. Why a license?? I'll shoot the same way if I have one or not. My question is what makes you a pro?? I've sold photos so does that make me a pro--I myself kind of doubt it because it is not my chief source of income, so the word "pro" would then apply to someone who lives off income made off of taking photos. This would mainly include wedding/graduation photographers---this I'm not and have a couple of friends who do this type of photography and work bartending jobs on the side to survive. It's a dog eat dog world out there...........

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Oct 31, 2011 16:14:21   #
Just Tami Loc: Long Island
 
I do consider myself a photographer. I went to college 4 times for photography, airbrush and retouching ( dating my age here) and whether I get paid or not or you like my equipment or not, Nikon vs Canon every other day. A piece of paper means nothing we get married I can't beat my husband with that license to keep him from cheating I do that by being a good wife. I have photography certificates I don't hang them on the wall. I get paid to do some work because someone like my photos and they told someone else and so on. I don't call myself a pro nor do a charge high fees. I like it, plain and simple I do work where peope are always happy to see me, let me save their family members to memory, stop time in a happy spot just for that extra moment or smile. I edit and print my own. I am not a pro but I can spell license. Mabe that's what the college courses were for. Lighten up it's an art open to, whatever

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Oct 31, 2011 16:16:46   #
blackmtnman
 
coco1964 wrote:
How about those of us out there who shoot for ourselves and praise from others is merely frosting on the cake?? I make photos for my satisfaction and my eye is the one who truely matters. This may sound a bit egocentric but especially if you're a freelance photographer you have nobody to answer to except yourself. If someone asks me to do a shoot (I don't do weddings or graduations)I shoot what I see and they make the decision if what I saw through my eyes is desireable to them. Why a license?? I'll shoot the same way if I have one or not. My question is what makes you a pro?? I've sold photos so does that make me a pro--I myself kind of doubt it because it is not my chief source of income, so the word "pro" would then apply to someone who lives off income made off of taking photos. This would mainly include wedding/graduation photographers---this I'm not and have a couple of friends who do this type of photography and work bartending jobs on the side to survive. It's a dog eat dog world out there...........
How about those of us out there who shoot for ours... (show quote)



That covers it well. Try being a pro musician.

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