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Sep 10, 2018 12:41:50   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
sinderone wrote:
...think I’ll focus, no pun intended, on the mirrorless systems. I agree that the p&s wont satisfy me.....


Mirrorless APS-C format and 24MP (same as your D7100), with viewfinder and available 200mm or longer lens (on DX)... your best bets are:

CANON:
Canon M50 w/two lens kit (15-45mm and 55-200mm): $929.
Canon M5 w/15-45mm lens: $949... plus EF-M 55-200mm lens: $349.
(Note: Canon APS-C are have 1.6X lens factor, just slightly smaller than

SONY:
Sony a6500 w/16-50mm lens: $1496... plus Sony E 55-210mm lens: $348.
Sony a6300 w/two lens kit (16-50mm & 55-210mm): $1346.
Sony a6000 w/two lens kit (16-50mm & 55-210mm): $698.

FUJIFILM
There are a whole bunch of different Fujifilm camera and lens combos (both two lens kits & some single lens where you'd need to buy the longer zoom separately) to choose among:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?setNs=p_PRICE_2%7c1&Ns=p_PRICE_2%7c1&ci=16158&fct=fct_brand_name%7cfujifilm%2bfct_bodies-kits_4023%7czoom-lens-kits%2bfct_still-image-resolution_706%7c24-megapixels%2bfct_a_features_3491%7cviewfinder-built-in&srtclk=sort&N=4288586281&

You can do comparisons of specific camera models various places online, for example:
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-M50-vs-Sony-Alpha-a6000
https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/sony/a6000/vs/canon/eos-m50/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compare/Canon_M50_vs_Canon_M5_vs_Sony_a6500_vs_Sony_a6000/BHitems/1393460-REG_1281373-REG_1289585-REG_1029860-REG

Note: Virtually all provide some form of image stabilization, though some cameras have in-body image stabilization, while others use in-lens stabilization.

And, depending upon what lenses you've got now for use with your D7100, some might be usable on the above mirrorless cameras via adapters.

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Sep 10, 2018 13:50:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


As Markwilliam1 suggests, the Sony RX10M4.

I did the exact same thing you are contemplating, but my main cameras are D800s and a D810. The Sony is 2.5 lbs, and has an field of view equivalent to a 24-600mm lens, F2.8 - F4.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157697217633732
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157696606493264
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157667029395028
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157689083645890
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157694805547345
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665487054018
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157693140571925
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157665486900208
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157690214837382

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Sep 10, 2018 15:04:30   #
le boecere
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Tom is an experienced professional travel photographer, who studies his recommendations, closely:

http://photoseek.com/2011/cameras-best-recommended-for-travel/

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Sep 10, 2018 15:57:38   #
markwilliam1
 
Nice post le! He also agrees on the Sony RX10 M4. Perfect for downsizing. It’s the Best camera I’ve ever owned!

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Sep 11, 2018 05:59:52   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Moonhawk has given you good advice. The E-M1 mrII with the 12-100 f4 is an incredible system. Yes, it is not the only system. But it offers a selection of more than 100 lenses that will work on any Olympus or Panasonic body (yes, your second body can be from Panasonic with no lenses loss). I used that body / lens combination (E-M1 + 12-100) on a long bus tour across Germany and really needed nothing more in reality. Total weight for the combo: 2.49 pounds.

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Sep 11, 2018 06:16:11   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Three more items about the E-M1 mrII plus 12-100 f4 combo: size is 5.3 X 3.6 X ~ 7 inches with 6.5 stops of image stabilization (very rare that I use a tripod anymore) and the system is weatherproof (no other rain gear required other than the combo itself). This is very hard to match or beat with any other system. This combo was meant for travel photography. If nothing else, rent the combo for a week.

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Sep 11, 2018 06:20:25   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Keep the D7100 and use or get an 18-200MM Nikon lens. Lose the other stuff.

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Sep 11, 2018 06:22:53   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Use your cell phone.

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Sep 11, 2018 07:14:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)


Life was so much simpler when the DSLR was the main choice for quality photography. I think you will have to get a pricey mirrorless to get the results you want - comparable to a DSLR. I use a Sony A6000 when I need a compact, but the results I get are never as good as I get from my D750.

Read comparisons and specs, and decide what features are important to you.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Sep 11, 2018 07:16:45   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Use your cell phone.


Good point.

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Sep 11, 2018 07:28:19   #
sinderone
 
The 18-200 is my walk around/all purpose lens. I bought the 10-20 for a trip to Europe and love it. I was able to get shots in crowded, narrow street cities that the the 18 was just not wide enough for. However, as you know, even with just the walk around lens the 7100 is no featherweight. In the end everything is a trade off and I know I’ll have to compromise for size and weight.

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Sep 11, 2018 08:30:40   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
I felt the same dilemma prior to my recent Danube river cruise. After much consideration and actual purchase and return of a Canon m50, I finally went with the Sony RX10 IV. I'm still learning and doubt I'll give up my 5D MIII or 7D MII, but I'm delighted with my choice of the Sony. It's seems to be only limited by my effort to learn. I'm getting there.
Mark
sinderone wrote:
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclusion that while I love the results, my D7100 plus lenses is just getting to heavy to shlep around. So now it’s time to decide what’s next. Point and shoot? 4/3’s? Mirrorless? My requirements are these; light, quality results close to my slr, a reasonably long zoom (minimally 200+mm), good low light results, a viewfinder and good reliability. I shoot mostly in aperture and shutter priority.

Suggestions plus pros and cons of each type?

Thanks in advance.
On my recent trip to Europe, I came to the conclus... (show quote)

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Sep 11, 2018 09:15:53   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I travel with a micro 4/3 camera, a wide prime for low light, and a tele zoom. Works for all my travels and fits in a pocketbook.

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Sep 11, 2018 09:20:58   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
I think you might be a good candidate for:
1. 18-400 or 18-300 zoom with the D7100 or

2. One of the smaller Nikon D5500 or 5600, or even the D34XX series with aforementioned lens.

You would retain a system (Nikon) that you already know, and (I don't know what type lens you already own) possibly retain usage of your lens collection (unless screw drive). They are smaller, cheaper and lighter, but very capable.

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Sep 11, 2018 09:28:32   #
Rick0747
 
Try the Sony RX10-iii or RX100-vi. Pricey but I love them. I do not think you will be disappointed.

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