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Grizzly Bear Hunt in Wyoming Postponed for 14 days
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Sep 1, 2018 18:43:54   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
How about human overflow into animals environments?



What about it???

There's 7.5 BILLION of us, headed to 10, and we are the dominant species.

If you have a solution, please..... Share.

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Sep 1, 2018 18:46:55   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Rich Maher wrote:
How sad that the hunters will have to wait to take to the woods with their penis extenders. Poor babies.


An incredibly dumb comment.

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Sep 1, 2018 18:48:58   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
[quote=Quinn 4]"It not something that can always be stopped" We as human can stop it if we want to. Gandhi's quote, he is saying if a nation can treated its animal right. It has already taking care the welfare of it people. I don't agree with everything that Gandhi wrote or said.[/quote


Stop it? Really???

Please elaborate.

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Sep 1, 2018 22:20:52   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Goober wrote:
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (grizzly bears) are not hunted for their meat but hunted for sport and trophy.
To end the life of a beautiful creature just to brag that you killed one and display it, is just plain sick. And the trophy hunters always come up with an excuse why it is ok...like balancing out the ECO system......is pure BS!

I just returned from Kodiak Island where I made over 3000 images of Kodiak brown bears. What beautiful creatures they are and an honor to see them in their natural habitat. They need to be protected, not killed.
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (... (show quote)


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Sep 2, 2018 04:46:22   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
tbrad57 wrote:
I know this will not appeal to some but let me impart a little education. The North American Model Of Wildlife Conservation is "the world's most successful system of conservation". The hunters, boaters and fishermen who purchase licenses and tags along with the 10 to 12% excise tax on guns, ammunition, fishing tackle etc... are the one who support wildlife conservation. Ducks Unlimited have been responsible for the purchase and preservation of wetlands, Wild Turkey Federation for the reintroduction of turkeys to areas that once had them and the list goes on. Most State Fish and Wildlife departments would not be funded adequately if it weren't for Fishermen, boaters and hunters. Sportsman's dollars help pay for wildlife research which leads to wise wildlife management. When there is a limited hunt such as the grizzly bear hunt it will only happen if and when it has been determined there is a sufficient population. They may decide to do it to prevent over population, raise money through the tags to provide money for more research, to try and maintain an equilibrium between predator and prey or all of the above. Hikers, wildlife viewers, PETA, etc... do not contribute towards wildlife management. You may view hunting as a horrible thing but to others it's part of their life. Have respect for other people's choices. I'm sure not everyone enjoys or supports things you do.
I know this will not appeal to some but let me imp... (show quote)




Finally a scientific approach to this emotional issue. It is very interesting that the people who "feel" hunting is bad or should be banned are not generally from the American West or if they are they are cloistered in some city. I don't hunt any more but have killed three deer in collisions with my pickup truck since I quit hunting. From the evidence I've seen a clean shot is more humane than being splattered all over the highway. There are more deer in this country than there were in the early 1800's when Lewis and Clark explored the west. I don't see anybody railing against animal harvest when it's done by indigenous peoples by way of treaty, custom, inclination or native rights. The tribes generally have fish and game departments aimed at stewardship of their animals and way of life. Many in the west depend on harvested wildlife as a source of protein.. Get over it..

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Sep 2, 2018 07:24:26   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
traderjohn wrote:
How much of the "wildlife habitat" did your home take??


The point I was trying to make is that humans cannot live on this earth without killing for meat, or taking up wildlife habitat. some people think it is bad to kill a wild animal because it is pretty, but they will happily go buy meat at the store. Either way, you are causing the death an animal.
The only cure is for people to quit having children so the wildlife can take over again.

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Sep 2, 2018 09:55:48   #
Rose42
 
People are selective about which animals they want to protect. The more majestic and/or beautiful the more emotion is attached.

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Sep 4, 2018 17:35:51   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why? If its done responsibly without hurting a sustainable population its no different than hunting any other animal.



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Sep 4, 2018 17:44:07   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
[/quote]I just returned from Kodiak Island where I made over 3000 images of Kodiak brown bears. What beautiful creatures they are and an honor to see them in their natural habitat. They need to be protected, not killed.[/quote]

And if one or more of those "beautiful creatures" attacked you or killed someone you cared about or maybe a pet ... or destroyed your property ... what would you do then? Grow up

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Sep 4, 2018 17:44:49   #
hasslichhog
 
Goober wrote:
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (grizzly bears) are not hunted for their meat but hunted for sport and trophy.
To end the life of a beautiful creature just to brag that you killed one and display it, is just plain sick. And the trophy hunters always come up with an excuse why it is ok...like balancing out the ECO system......is pure BS!

I just returned from Kodiak Island where I made over 3000 images of Kodiak brown bears. What beautiful creatures they are and an honor to see them in their natural habitat. They need to be protected, not killed.
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (... (show quote)



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Sep 4, 2018 17:52:55   #
hasslichhog
 
Paladin48 wrote:
I just returned from Kodiak Island where I made over 3000 images of Kodiak brown bears. What beautiful creatures they are and an honor to see them in their natural habitat. They need to be protected, not killed.[/quote]

And if one or more of those "beautiful creatures" attacked you or killed someone you cared about or maybe a pet ... or destroyed your property ... what would you do then? Grow up[/quote]

I'd never put myself or a pet in a situation where a bear...or any other wild animal...might kill me or the pet. I'd never blame the bear for my stupidity in encroaching on its territory. The common-law doesn't allow you to track down, then kill, a person who may have killed a member of your family, or a friend. So, why should a bear be killed under the same, or similar, circumstances..or just for the glory and thrill of killing, which most hunters possess.

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Sep 4, 2018 18:21:58   #
Rose42
 
hasslichhog wrote:
I'd never put myself or a pet in a situation where a bear...or any other wild animal...might kill me or the pet. I'd never blame the bear for my stupidity in encroaching on its territory. The common-law doesn't allow you to track down, then kill, a person who may have killed a member of your family, or a friend.


You mean you'd "try" not to. Its not always possible. They are dangerous and very intelligent.

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why should a bear be killed under the same, or similar, circumstances..or just for the glory and thrill of killing, which most hunters possess.


That's propaganda not fact. Your argument is based on emotion. How about the ranchers this affects? The lost livestock?

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Sep 4, 2018 21:48:09   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
hasslichhog wrote:
I'd never put myself or a pet in a situation where a bear...or any other wild animal...might kill me or the pet. I'd never blame the bear for my stupidity in encroaching on its territory. The common-law doesn't allow you to track down, then kill, a person who may have killed a member of your family, or a friend. So, why should a bear be killed under the same, or similar, circumstances..or just for the glory and thrill of killing, which most hunters possess.


When they come down out of the forests, mountains or wilderness into an established housing area, school or similar inhabited area you can't be so nice.

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Sep 5, 2018 19:23:59   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
You are equating hunting with murdering people?

Maybe because animals are worth more!

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Sep 5, 2018 19:27:31   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Goober wrote:
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (grizzly bears) are not hunted for their meat but hunted for sport and trophy.
To end the life of a beautiful creature just to brag that you killed one and display it, is just plain sick. And the trophy hunters always come up with an excuse why it is ok...like balancing out the ECO system......is pure BS!

I just returned from Kodiak Island where I made over 3000 images of Kodiak brown bears. What beautiful creatures they are and an honor to see them in their natural habitat. They need to be protected, not killed.
Agreed!! In most cases, bears, especially brown (... (show quote)


Excellently put!

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