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Surprised no one mentioned this about the new Nikon Z's
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Aug 31, 2018 16:10:29   #
brrywill
 
Thank you.

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Aug 31, 2018 16:16:55   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
brrywill wrote:
Probably like the Fuji X body CatMarley just posted. The controls are perfect, small body with FF sensor.


Yep! That would do it!

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Aug 31, 2018 16:17:16   #
BebuLamar
 
brrywill wrote:
Probably like the Fuji X body CatMarley just posted. The controls are perfect, small body with FF sensor.


But that is not like the Nikon FM.

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Aug 31, 2018 16:36:42   #
fishone0 Loc: Kingman AZ
 
sorry I did not come from the film age I started with a Canon rebel 6mp and I love how far the cameras have come in digital and yes I have the Nikon DF it is my favorite DSLR and now I have moved on to mirror less --so I say we must evolve or be left behind in the dust of photography

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Aug 31, 2018 16:45:58   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But that is not like the Nikon FM.


I don't know about that. Here they are together. Just swap out the film advance lever for the EC dial and the rewind crank for the ISO dial, and it is pretty much the same. FM is a tad longer, maybe, and a few more buttons on the Fuji.! I would like to keep the fully articulated screen from the Fuji, but would not mind losing a lot of the nonsense stuff that is in the menus. Just give me a way to focus accurately, and control exposure and you can keep most of the rest of that stuff!



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Aug 31, 2018 19:06:25   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
BobbyT wrote:
I luv retro. I would luv a 1939 Packard sedan BUT....


... also get 36 mpg? You and me, brother.

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Aug 31, 2018 22:22:52   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
CatMarley wrote:
Here is an XT body. 130 mm long, 72 mm high and 32 mm deep. On top it had ISO dial, shutter speed dial, exposure compensation dial, shooting mode dial, and focusing mode dial. Everything you need to control your shot is under your fingertips, not in a menu, and all on 41.6 square centimeters of real estate! I think Nikon Z could manage the task!


I thought the OP was talking not about dials, but all the various control buttons found in on the backs of most DSLRs. I am so not a fan of dials on top the camera. I find the dedicated EV comp dial on top the A7 worse than useless, as I have EV comp set on one of the two control wheels that can be controlled with the camera up to my eye.

Ergonomically speaking, dials make no sense at all when you have a readout in the viewfinder. I have come to highly appreciate control wheels with assignable functions, which allow me to set everything without taking the camera from my eye. On my A7, using manual lenses and aperture priority I have the back wheel set to control ISO, the front top wheel for EV comp. In manual mode or with auto lenses I have the front top wheel controlling shutter speed and the back top wheel controlling aperture, ISO always on the lower back wheel. Everything can be set based on what I am seeing in the viewfinder immediately without removing my eye from the viewfinder. I would never go back to dedicated controls at this point, especially wheels that take two fingers to operate.

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Sep 1, 2018 12:30:37   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
kymarto wrote:
I thought the OP was talking not about dials, but all the various control buttons found in on the backs of most DSLRs. I am so not a fan of dials on top the camera. I find the dedicated EV comp dial on top the A7 worse than useless, as I have EV comp set on one of the two control wheels that can be controlled with the camera up to my eye.

Ergonomically speaking, dials make no sense at all when you have a readout in the viewfinder. I have come to highly appreciate control wheels with assignable functions, which allow me to set everything without taking the camera from my eye. On my A7, using manual lenses and aperture priority I have the back wheel set to control ISO, the front top wheel for EV comp. In manual mode or with auto lenses I have the front top wheel controlling shutter speed and the back top wheel controlling aperture, ISO always on the lower back wheel. Everything can be set based on what I am seeing in the viewfinder immediately without removing my eye from the viewfinder. I would never go back to dedicated controls at this point, especially wheels that take two fingers to operate.
I thought the OP was talking not about dials, but ... (show quote)


whether you prefer wheels dials or buttons is just personal preference. the main thing is that the controls are surface accessible, not submerged in some menu.

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Sep 2, 2018 22:22:10   #
PH CIB
 
To Each His or Her own,,,but on the Fuji XT2 rotating the top dials which is easy to do and shows up in the viewfinder your eye never has to leave the viewfinder,,,, if you prefer to use the rear and front side control dials under your thumb and forefinger you can set the shutter speed dial to T and control the shutter speed with the rear control dial and the ISO dial to A and control the ISO with the front control dial,,,I always control the aperture manually on the lens but you can set it to A for the camera to choose the aperture and the exposure compensation dial I always use manually but there is a C setting where you can use it in some other mode,,,,metering dial is right there under the shutter speed dial and shooting mode dial,,,single, low speed, high speed, bracketing, video etc is right there under the ISO dial,,,so with the XT2 you can have the best of either world probably one of the easiest cameras to use....



kymarto wrote:
I thought the OP was talking not about dials, but all the various control buttons found in on the backs of most DSLRs. I am so not a fan of dials on top the camera. I find the dedicated EV comp dial on top the A7 worse than useless, as I have EV comp set on one of the two control wheels that can be controlled with the camera up to my eye.

Ergonomically speaking, dials make no sense at all when you have a readout in the viewfinder. I have come to highly appreciate control wheels with assignable functions, which allow me to set everything without taking the camera from my eye. On my A7, using manual lenses and aperture priority I have the back wheel set to control ISO, the front top wheel for EV comp. In manual mode or with auto lenses I have the front top wheel controlling shutter speed and the back top wheel controlling aperture, ISO always on the lower back wheel. Everything can be set based on what I am seeing in the viewfinder immediately without removing my eye from the viewfinder. I would never go back to dedicated controls at this point, especially wheels that take two fingers to operate.
I thought the OP was talking not about dials, but ... (show quote)

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