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Aug 30, 2018 19:56:56   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I have lost track of how many Applications stopped working due to OS upgrades. My iPhone and iPad keep updating, my various Windows desktops, laptops and tablets are all up to date. Sadly, it is the way things are right now.

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Aug 31, 2018 07:14:44   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
brucewells wrote:
This, from DP Review:

If you're not one to update your computer gear often, you might want to reconsider. Adobe has issued a notice future releases of Creative Cloud programs will no longer support older versions of MacOS and Windows operating systems.

'As we prepare for our next major release of Creative Cloud, we wanted to share some information on updated operating system requirements,' says Adobe. 'To take advantage of the latest operating system features and technologies, the next major release of Creative Cloud will not support Windows 8.1, Windows 10 v1511 and v1607, and Mac OS 10.11 (El Capitan).'

Adobe notes all past and current versions of Creative Cloud applications will continue to work on the aforementioned operating systems. Creative Cloud Desktop — the management application for all Creative Cloud apps — will continue to be supported on Windows 7 or later and MacOS 10.9 (Mavericks) and later.

According to Adobe, 'focusing [its] efforts on more modern versions of Windows and Mac operating systems allows [it] to concentrate on developing the features and functionality most requested by members, while ensuring peak performance that takes advantage of modern hardware.'
This, from DP Review: br br i If you're not one ... (show quote)


Personally, my main desktops are all fully upgraded Windows 10 (as Well as 3 laptops). But I do keep one old laptop (still runs okay) with Windows 3, one with Vista, and one with Windows 7. The only (true) reason is that they weren't worth upgrading and provide me with a test bed for older software etc. Also I have an old version of Warcraft and Diablo and neither will run on Windows 10. Having said that, this does give me a test bed (so to speak) for software. The Adobe announcement will not affect me as I keep it up to date on 2 desktops here in Florida, 2 desktops in Pennsylvania (for when we travel up to visit friends) and 2 Windows 10 laptops for traveling. Adobe's log-in makes this an easy solution as they allow ANY two be be online at a given time. So, when home, I am logged into my computer and or one laptop. The wife is logged in to one home computer and or one laptop. if traveling we take our laptops from home but we can always log into a desktop with Adobe installed up north. When we decide to log into one of the additional computers, Adobe tells us to log out of one of the current ones first or it will log us out of everything and that gives us two logins remotely. If we are traveling, we don't need to be logged in at home anyway.

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Aug 31, 2018 07:16:14   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
As long as my computer handles the latest operating system, I upgrade very soon after release. Mac owner, rarely have any issues other than one where I had to reload my Topaz plugin's. Not a big deal. Otherwise never had an issue.

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Aug 31, 2018 07:25:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
brucewells wrote:
This, from DP Review:

If you're not one to update your computer gear often, you might want to reconsider. Adobe has issued a notice future releases of Creative Cloud programs will no longer support older versions of MacOS and Windows operating systems.

'As we prepare for our next major release of Creative Cloud, we wanted to share some information on updated operating system requirements,' says Adobe. 'To take advantage of the latest operating system features and technologies, the next major release of Creative Cloud will not support Windows 8.1, Windows 10 v1511 and v1607, and Mac OS 10.11 (El Capitan).'

Adobe notes all past and current versions of Creative Cloud applications will continue to work on the aforementioned operating systems. Creative Cloud Desktop — the management application for all Creative Cloud apps — will continue to be supported on Windows 7 or later and MacOS 10.9 (Mavericks) and later.

According to Adobe, 'focusing [its] efforts on more modern versions of Windows and Mac operating systems allows [it] to concentrate on developing the features and functionality most requested by members, while ensuring peak performance that takes advantage of modern hardware.'
This, from DP Review: br br i If you're not one ... (show quote)


Gee, I hope my CS6 keeps working with my Windows 10.

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Aug 31, 2018 07:37:58   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Yep, I keep my OS and apps as up-to-date as possible.

I am an early adopter of the latest OS - pretty much as soon as it is available for download. (provided Lightroom & Photoshop have no issues with it of course)

Things run much smoother when apps and OS are current.

I have driven on my share of the Maypop brand :)

Yep, I keep my OS and apps as up-to-date as possib... (show quote)



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Aug 31, 2018 08:37:09   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Bill_de wrote:
. . . It is not uncommon to have to upgrade an operating system to use the latest software. . . .--


Ain’t technology wonderful! Yet those 50 year old film reels, tanks, and enlargers still work regardless . . . .something to be said for that.

Stan

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Aug 31, 2018 09:03:23   #
CaptainPhoto
 
Haydon wrote:
That will kill some of their business. There's still plenty of people using Windows 7.


Still running Windows 7 - my goodness, Way back when Microsoft first came out with Windows 10, if you had Windows 7 the upgrade was FREE.
Windows 10 came out July 29, 2015. So why not get the FREE version back then.

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Aug 31, 2018 09:03:44   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Anyone else here in the Windows Insider program besides me?

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Aug 31, 2018 09:52:29   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Not surprising at all. Microsoft announced a while back that all support for Windows 7 ends January of 2020 (less than a year and a half away). Software developers cannot wait until the last minute to get their products compatible to current standards. If your system is 5 years or older, I would not recommend that you bother with trying to upgrade it. Your time and money would be better spent on a new system unless you have some serious IT experience.

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Aug 31, 2018 10:29:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
brucewells wrote:
This, from DP Review:

If you're not one to update your computer gear often, you might want to reconsider. Adobe has issued a notice future releases of Creative Cloud programs will no longer support older versions of MacOS and Windows operating systems.

'As we prepare for our next major release of Creative Cloud, we wanted to share some information on updated operating system requirements,' says Adobe. 'To take advantage of the latest operating system features and technologies, the next major release of Creative Cloud will not support Windows 8.1, Windows 10 v1511 and v1607, and Mac OS 10.11 (El Capitan).'

Adobe notes all past and current versions of Creative Cloud applications will continue to work on the aforementioned operating systems. Creative Cloud Desktop — the management application for all Creative Cloud apps — will continue to be supported on Windows 7 or later and MacOS 10.9 (Mavericks) and later.

According to Adobe, 'focusing [its] efforts on more modern versions of Windows and Mac operating systems allows [it] to concentrate on developing the features and functionality most requested by members, while ensuring peak performance that takes advantage of modern hardware.'
This, from DP Review: br br i If you're not one ... (show quote)


Good for them! Apple and Microsoft support only the last two operating systems released, when they release security fixes. If you're using anything older than that, your computer is potentially vulnerable to all sorts of malware and other nefarious schemes. If you're running Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, or any version of Mac OS X (not to be confused with MacOS!), shame on you! The cyber world is a seething cauldron of dangerous opportunities to be attacked by people who want to drain your bank account, steal your identity, lock up your data for ransom money, or just erase your hard drive.

It also costs a lot of money to have trained support people available to help people using older equipment. It costs a lot of money to test code for multiple versions of Windows and MacOS. It just isn't practical any longer.

A lot of older folks don't get this. They think they should be able to buy a computer and software and use it for a decade... or life. Well, folks, if that's you, get over it! That's not how the computer industry works! It never has been, and never will be. This is why the move to subscription models is so important.

My Mid-2010 Mac Mini works perfectly with the current MacOS (10.13.6). But it will not work with the next version. I'll continue to use it for another year, but after that, it gets put in a closet, after I remove the drive and transfer the data.

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Aug 31, 2018 10:35:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
StanMac wrote:
Ain’t technology wonderful! Yet those 50 year old film reels, tanks, and enlargers still work regardless . . . .something to be said for that.

Stan


I still have all my darkroom gear and most of my film camera gear from 1965 and later. I haven't used the darkroom stuff since 1993, or the camera gear since 2005, but it's all in usable shape. I'm waiting for the right sucker/victim to sell it to.

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Aug 31, 2018 10:48:08   #
baygolf Loc: DMV
 
I think the bottom line now is, can one still get Windows 10 for free and will an old Windows 7 computer run it????

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Aug 31, 2018 10:53:38   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
.... It also costs a lot of money to have trained support people available to help people using older equipment. It costs a lot of money to test code for multiple versions of Windows and MacOS. It just isn't practical any longer.

A lot of older folks don't get this. ....

As one of the “older folk” here, I do get it. However, as a manager of software application development who had a team of testers working for me, I never had Adobe’s problem.

Applications as a whole can be designed to operate on multiple platforms and operating system levels (easily detectable at run time). If a particular feature cannot be “backward compatible” all you need to do is to disable it and say, “Sorry, your operating system doesn’t allow us to provide this feature.”

Adobe never figured this out so I just stopped being a customer and never regretted it.

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Aug 31, 2018 10:57:19   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
baygolf wrote:
I think the bottom line now is, can one still get Windows 10 for free and will an old Windows 7 computer run it????

Some older computers cannot be upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Check with the manufacturer.

I had to install something called Never10 to prevent Microsoft from forcing an automatic upgrade on me.

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Aug 31, 2018 11:01:26   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
selmslie wrote:
As one of the “older folk” here, I do get it. However, as a manager of software application development who had a team of testers working for me, I never had Adobe’s problem.

Applications as a whole can be designed to operate on multiple platforms and operating system levels (easily detectable at run time). If a particular feature cannot be “backward compatible” all you need to do is to disable it and say, “Sorry, your operating system doesn’t allow us to provide this feature.”

Adobe never figured this out so I just stopped being a customer and never regretted it.
As one of the “older folk” here, I do get it. Howe... (show quote)


Actually, they do allow the current Lightroom Classic CC 2018 to run on certain older computers that don’t have hardware support for some features. My Mini is one of them. Of course, running LR on a 2010 Mac Mini is like hauling a camping trailer with a Smart Car. So I don’t do it...

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