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Aug 29, 2018 15:55:14   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Still a photographer....

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Aug 29, 2018 16:19:26   #
tjim Loc: Far Northern California
 
I have read this WHOLE thread and have learned several things about myself (as a photo grafer).
1. I'm way too agreeable....agreed with almost every post.
2. I may be addicted to UGG.
3. I might be a photographer, maybe, or not. But then again I have some attributes named. If one uses a purely subjective measure I almost, nearly come close. And I might even be one (A photographer)....as an amateur you understand.
4. I've got way too much time on my hands🤔🤔🤐

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Aug 29, 2018 16:33:54   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Don't think so much. Get out and take pictures. Everything in life, including you, the dog, the Squirrel outside your window, the Earth, the Solar System, the Galaxy and the entire universe is a collection of electrons. Does that make you feel any better?


That gives me a charge. Too bad it’s “negative.”
😂😂😂

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Aug 29, 2018 16:35:47   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
Photons of light energy strike the sensor and those photons are digitally recorded on electronic media. So photo (having to do with photons of light) and graph (having to do with with writing or drawing) seems to fit well. Light in the form of photons is used ultimately to draw an image on a video screen or on paper.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:03:02   #
halraiser
 
We use light (the "photo" part) to make pictures (the "graph" part of the word). Doing that makes us photographers, regardless of if we do it with emulsion or semiconductors.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:07:59   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
Well, since the picture starts out as photons, one might argue that the current format is closer to the original.
Those who used film in the past were simply limited to the technology of the time.
Some are resistant to the change that removes the shackles of chemicals on film. They have a hard time understanding that they are closer to chemists than Photographers.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:14:57   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Well, now that I'm in an argumentative, nit picky mood, a camera "makes" the picture, the photographer just "takes" the picture. I'm sure someone grumpier than I can refine it even further...


The reverse of that is more logical, and I'm not even the least bit grumpy at the moment.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:17:34   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
d2b2 wrote:
While you intellectuals continue to discuss this, I am going to go outside and click a shutter!


I'd love to be doing that but it's just too darn hot here today. I'm hanging out with that AC.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:19:51   #
stanperry Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
Well, since the picture starts out as photons, one might argue that the current format is closer to the original.
Those who used film in the past were simply limited to the technology of the time.
Some are resistant to the change that removes the shackles of chemicals on film. They have a hard time understanding that they are closer to chemists than Photographers.


You may have hit upon the essence of it. Light/photons/gamma rays, etc., are how EVERY photograph begins. Capturing those "electrons" on some special material or device, be it special paper or a sensor, is how it begins. At that exact moment, nothing truly exists other than the "memory" of the position of the electrons on the paper or sensor. What turns it into a viewable photograph is the very specialized development of the image through some sort of processing. In the old days, it was metal plates developed by chemicals, then paper by chemicals, and now pixels processed by complicated electronic developers (even Photo Shop calls it "developing"). So, in the final analysis, the artist's recognition of the subject, composition, and finally manipulating the camera, is what photography is, not the device nor the processing of the medium.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:27:12   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Yeah, me too. No one ever said "Hey, there's BidDaddy, he's a photographer". I'm only a photographer when I'm taking a picture, and people might say, "Hey, look at the dork over there, the guy with a camera." Generally, a guy that earns his primary living taking pictures is known as a "photographer" when he is not actually taking pictures. Every one else is just a "guy with a camera"


You are incorrect. A person who's primary income is derived from photography is a Professional photographer. That is the job title and partial description. The guy with the camera taking photos but not earning an income with it is also a photographer, just not a Professional photographer.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:40:23   #
SierraP Loc: Eastern Sierras
 
Interesting question. I think a person that buys a camera is about as much of a photographer as the person that buys an airplane is immediately a pilot or buying a hammer and a chisel make you a sculpture. Buy a can of paint and suddenly becomes an artist. No, we are not all photographers. As in any trade, there is a learning curve, To some, it is easy, to others it will never happen. I do believe that there are as many good amateurs as there are not so good professionals. Or to put is another way. If you are an amateur it doesn't mean you that you shoot mediocre pictures just as being a pro doesn't mean you very good. And just because you own a camera does not make you a Photographer. What you do with your pictures is your own business and what you call yourself is up to you.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:41:21   #
d2b2 Loc: Catonsville, Maryland, USA
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I'd love to be doing that but it's just too darn hot here today. I'm hanging out with that AC.


What about doing still life in the dining room?

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Aug 29, 2018 18:40:43   #
SierraP Loc: Eastern Sierras
 
I have seem some beautiful shots of toilet bowls. As they say, "what ever works"

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Aug 29, 2018 20:01:26   #
halraiser
 
It isn't buying the airplane, hammer, camera etc. that makes one a pilot, carpenter, or photographer, it is using those tools. Once you start to use the camera, even as an amateur, you are a photographer. Of course it is another question if you are a good photographer, but a photographer you remain.

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Aug 29, 2018 20:11:51   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
d2b2 wrote:
What about doing still life in the dining room?


There were grandchildren here today so setting up a tripod would not be a wise thing to do.

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