Does perspective change when you change the focal length?
Aug 27, 2018 12:50:40 #
Just a somewhat "misdirected" rant on my part, dsmeltz. No mean spirit behind it, I assure you; rather some comic relief I hoped. Oh well and so it goes. Peace and Love.
dsmeltz wrote:
This post that took it to your 20. Which was post... (show quote)
Aug 27, 2018 12:54:00 #
R.G. wrote:
We have had to deal with the realities of persistent and malicious troll activity, and our answer has been exclusion (but only in the worst and most persistent cases). In FYC, both positive and negative comments are seen as part of the feedback process, and if you look you'll find no shortage of to-the-point honest comments.
Not quite as direct and to the point as, "... in FYC is banal beyond belief, but politeness and respect for the rules on the section prevent me from saying so."
That was in reference to a recent thread on FYC sent to me via PM by a prominent member in good sanding.
It might have been reworded it to be polite but the sentiment could not have been expressed as directly as what I just quoted.
Aug 27, 2018 12:59:49 #
And this makes it 21. It was a little sad and disturbing to read people whose opinions I have learned to repect on this great forum, go at each other. But to paraphrase Cosby/Stills/ Nash: "I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are, you make it harder." Any way, I promise to be good from here on.
selmslie wrote:
I would not have commented but since dsmeltz said ... (show quote)
Aug 27, 2018 13:01:14 #
And by the way, this is simply my "perspective."
juanbalv wrote:
And this makes it 21. It was a little sad and disturbing to read people whose opinions I have learned to repect on this great forum, go at each other. But to paraphrase Cosby/Stills/ Nash: "I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are, you make it harder." Any way, I promise to be good from here on.
Aug 27, 2018 13:19:16 #
selmslie wrote:
Not quite as direct and to the point as, "... in FYC is banal beyond belief, but politeness and respect for the rules on the section prevent me from saying so."
That was in reference to a recent thread on FYC sent to me via PM by a prominent member in good sanding.
It might have been reworded it to be polite but the sentiment could not have been expressed as directly as what I just quoted.
That was in reference to a recent thread on FYC sent to me via PM by a prominent member in good sanding.
It might have been reworded it to be polite but the sentiment could not have been expressed as directly as what I just quoted.
Expressing an opinion is one thing, launching a malicious attack is another. We have had to find ways to deal with such attacks which were on occasion launched from other sections (where we don't have the power to delete or exclude).
If the person that sent you the PM is genuinely concerned about FYC he/she is free to influence things in a positive way. Criticising without providing a positive example of a better alternative isn't going to be helpful. And if that person feels the need for something more exciting (whatever that might be in their view) they have the option of looking elsewhere.
Aug 27, 2018 13:19:38 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Architect put me on ignore list and I didn't think I said anything at all of offend him. I ask for an olive branch to find out why and he never gives it to me.
What some people fail to realize is, when you put someone on your ignore list, they only way they can reach out is the olive branch. A while ago someone put me on their ignore list for unknown reasons. I sent an olive branch. They replied with a message asking me to explain a post I did not write. I tried to reply to the PM but could not, since they had me on their ignore list.
Aug 27, 2018 14:54:56 #
R.G. wrote:
Expressing an opinion is one thing, launching a malicious attack is another. We have had to find ways to deal with such attacks which were on occasion launched from other sections (where we don't have the power to delete or exclude).
Stating something as a fact is not expressing an opinion, "You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to you own facts."
An attack on an individual, a regular contributor to FYC, who is playing fast and loose with the facts is not an attack on FYC. But there is the perception, based on recent posts and threads started in the Main Photography Discussion section, that at least one prominent member of FYC thinks that they are obligated to defend them.
Doesn't it strike you as ironic that someone from FYC feels free to post a complaint about the Main Photography Discussion in the Main Photography Discussion section but that anyone who critiques FYC is subject to sanctions? It's more than ironic. It's hypocritical.
R.G. wrote:
If the person that sent you the PM is genuinely concerned about FYC he/she is free to influence things in a positive way. Criticising without providing a positive example of a better alternative isn't going to be helpful. And if that person feels the need for something more exciting (whatever that might be in their view) they have the option of looking elsewhere.
If that individual reveals to you the name of the thread to which the statement referred via PM, that's their choice. You won't hear any hints from me.
Aug 27, 2018 14:55:48 #
dsmeltz wrote:
What some people fail to realize is, when you put someone on your ignore list, they only way they can reach out is the olive branch. A while ago someone put me on their ignore list for unknown reasons. I sent an olive branch. They replied with a message asking me to explain a post I did not write. I tried to reply to the PM but could not, since they had me on their ignore list.
That sounds like a flaw that Admin should be made aware of so it can be fixed.
Aug 27, 2018 15:03:39 #
So folks what's the answer?
Does perspective change when you change the focal length?
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Does perspective change when you change the focal length?
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Aug 27, 2018 15:06:04 #
selmslie wrote:
....anyone who critiques FYC is subject to sanctions......
Not true.
(BTW, the reference to attacks isn't referring to you, just in case you were taking any of this too personally).
Aug 27, 2018 16:01:07 #
Bill_de wrote:
So folks what's the answer?
Does perspective change when you change the focal length?
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Does perspective change when you change the focal length?
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The answer is NO! So simple.
Aug 27, 2018 16:10:15 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The answer is NO! So simple.
And it took all this time for me to find out. Thanks!
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Aug 27, 2018 16:11:27 #
Bill_de wrote:
And it took all this time for me to find out. Thanks!
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Scotty said it's "Common Knowledge" which I disagreed.
Aug 27, 2018 16:31:56 #
R.G. wrote:
Not true.
It is true if you view a critique as an attack, "Initiating or participating in such attacks here or in another section will be viewed as being contrary to this section's guidelines."
Consider the statement that I made earlier, "An attack on an individual, a regular contributor to FYC, who is playing fast and loose with the facts is not an attack on FYC." There has been retaliation (it is still in place) in a case like that. I think you know exactly what I mean. If you want me to get more specific, I will.
Aug 27, 2018 16:36:26 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Scotty said it's "Common Knowledge" which I disagreed.
Common only means it is widespread and commonly accepted among people who have read about and studied the phenomenon. In fact, there is only one adamant denier here.
It does not mean that a novice would necessarily know it although many of the newer photographers who have responded here understand it clearly.
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