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Aug 21, 2018 08:48:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bodiebill wrote:
How do the modern "plastic" lenses compare in quality and optical performance with "glass" lenses
obviously they are lower cost.


It depends on the lens. A plastic barrel is not necessarily inferior to metal! It can be more dimensionally stable under temperature changes. Delrin and other modern plastics can be very hard, without being as brittle as their metal alternatives.

Plastic lenses? Again, it depends on many factors, especially which elements, what coatings, etc. Some are excellent and some are not.

Rely on lab tests and real world sample images to judge image quality. If you’re picky, wait until the lens has been available for a year before you buy it. That gives the manufacturer time to revise design and manufacturing to fix any issues.

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Aug 21, 2018 08:55:46   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Plastic lens elements are standard in all lens manufacturers "kit" crop sensor lenses. Typically only the front object lens is glass because its the only one exposed to the elements. Yet there are some that are 100% plastic.


I'm curious. What are a couple of lenses that are all plastic and have no glass?

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Aug 21, 2018 09:04:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
leftj wrote:
I'm curious. What are a couple of lenses that are all plastic and have no glass?


Eye glasses can be all plastic to keep them thin and light...

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Aug 21, 2018 09:05:43   #
BebuLamar
 
The lenses for my eyeglasses cost $700 for 2 plastic single element lenses. They charge too much.

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Aug 21, 2018 09:10:02   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Perhaps I do not understand your question but as far as I know ALL lenses in the optical formula have glass. Aspheric surfaces are the only ones that have a combination of plastic and glass but that will be only one element of the lens.
If you are talking about plastic construction understand that most plastics used in lenses today come from experiments that were made during outer space trips and they have excellent quality and are lighter than metal. Plastics do not expand and retract with atmospheric conditions like metals do.
Ask any repair station about those plastic lens mounts and they will tell you it is not common to have one for repairs...except when the operator has shown negligence.

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Aug 21, 2018 09:16:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The lenses for my eyeglasses cost $700 for 2 plastic single element lenses. They charge too much.


I feel your pain. I’m glad I had cataract surgery in 2008! No more expensive glasses...

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Aug 21, 2018 09:54:00   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
burkphoto wrote:
Eye glasses can be all plastic to keep them thin and light...


That was not my question.

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Aug 21, 2018 10:00:54   #
gordone Loc: Red Deer AB Canada
 
People buy expensive glass optics and shudder at the term plastic lens. Then they put an expensive Lee ND grad filter in front of it and think nothing of it. The Lee ND filter is made from resin (AKA plastic).

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Aug 21, 2018 10:14:51   #
mgoldfield
 
rmalarz wrote:
The folks from whom I purchase my eyeglasses told me that no matter who makes lenses glass is always superior to plastic.
--Bob


I agree wholeheartedly!

I have worn glasses since I was about six years old - over 70 years ago.

I held out for glass lenses until several years ago when I was unable to obtain them and had
to accept plastic lenses. My nearsightedness is very severe so my lenses are pretty thick.
Well I can tell you there is an observable difference between plastic and glass.
I've gotten used to it, but when I got my first pair of plastic lens glasses I could tell the difference,
and I didn't like it. The glass lenses have a crispness and clarity which the plastic lenses lack.

Every optician I've met agrees; however, most people don't notice the difference.

M. Goldfield

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Aug 21, 2018 11:18:26   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
As long as plastic is clear, without internal flaws, the transmissive capacity is similar to glass (there may be slight differences depending on the type of glass and plastic). Different glasses have different indices of refraction, and I assume that so do different types of plastic. As long as a given plastic has the same index of refraction as a given type of glass, it should make no difference in the optical quality of the lens with a few caveats:

First is the question of the quality of the curvature. You want an even and smooth curvature of the lens surface. It may be that glass is easier to face than plastic. But if the quality of the surface is the same the optical quality would be the same.

Second is the question of dimensional stability. You don't want a lens to lose its desired shape. Again, I am not a materials scientist so I don't know which would be better.

Third is a question of hardness (which relates to the first point) Scratch resistance is of course a major point. I'm also unclear on the question of anti-reflection coating on plastics.

Fourth would be resistance to changes that would relate to transmission. I'm guessing that some plastics would yellow or become partly opaque over time or in the presence of strong light. Again, this is a question for a materials scientist.

But given a good and stable plastic, there is no reason that a lens element made of it need be inferior to one made of glass with the same optical characteristics.

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Aug 21, 2018 13:20:21   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I feel your pain. I’m glad I had cataract surgery in 2008! No more expensive glasses...

It does not follow. I had the surgery last year and the surgeon told me that a genetic aberration in my eye made it impossible to install the "all distances" lens replacements. I still have to wear glasses for reading or other close work.

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Aug 21, 2018 15:42:17   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Dirtfarmer sums it up....

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Aug 21, 2018 16:32:10   #
flashgordonbrown Loc: Silverdale, WA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I think you are misinformed. The lenses themselves are glass. The body of the lenses might be made out of either metal or plastic. Only very cheap or toy cameras like the Diana or Holga have plastic lenses.


Not completely true - some lenses have both acrylic elements as well as glass elements. As has been pointed out in another response, acrylic is commonly used in high quality eyeware, and has for many years in combination with glass in quality camera lenses. This from many years of camera retail sales, ending more than 25 years ago! In the interim, I have maintained close contact with the industry as a professional photographer.

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Aug 21, 2018 16:37:35   #
CO
 
camerapapi wrote:
Perhaps I do not understand your question but as far as I know ALL lenses in the optical formula have glass. Aspheric surfaces are the only ones that have a combination of plastic and glass but that will be only one element of the lens.
If you are talking about plastic construction understand that most plastics used in lenses today come from experiments that were made during outer space trips and they have excellent quality and are lighter than metal. Plastics do not expand and retract with atmospheric conditions like metals do.
Ask any repair station about those plastic lens mounts and they will tell you it is not common to have one for repairs...except when the operator has shown negligence.
Perhaps I do not understand your question but as f... (show quote)


The hybrid aspherical lens elements are the ones that are a combination of plastic and glass. A step up from that are the molded glass aspherical lens elements. The best ones are the precision ground glass aspherical elements but they are expensive to manufacture..

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Aug 21, 2018 18:02:13   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I paid $400 for one pair of eye glasses made of plastic lenses. The Optometrist told me they were of high quality scratch resistant plastic. That price was for frame and lenses. Way overpriced, IMO. There has been much debate as to whether or not to use protection filters on your camera lenses. However, the glass on your lens is actually harder than the protective filter glass. But, I still use one anyway. The common accidental nose dive on concrete, that happens sometimes, with your camera and lens mounted on a tripod, can still cause damage to your glass lens.

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