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Aug 20, 2018 13:24:44   #
TreborLow
 
I got some Deet on my Casio watch and it messed up the crystal surface!!! Don't know what is in that stuff, but I am starting to like it as much as bugs do!

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Aug 20, 2018 15:19:44   #
jscorbin Loc: Woodinville, WA
 
josquin1 wrote:
If deet does all those things to cameras. shotguns etc. What the hell does it do to your skin?

Nothing, since your skin is not plastic. I've used it for over 50 years, including the 100% form in my younger days, and am just careful not to touch plastic -- or wash my hands when I can't avoid plastic, such as a lens ring or ballpoint pen. There's nothing I've found that is more effective against mosquitoes, ticks, chiggers, etc. A 30% solution seems to be the optimum concentration.
TreborLow wrote:
I got some Deet on my Casio watch and it messed up the crystal surface!!!

Then your Casio watch "crystal" is plastic.

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Aug 20, 2018 15:40:37   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
I have been researching this issue due to an upcoming trip, and the reality is that there is no comparison (according to the research I had found) between Deet and the many other varieties of bug repellents. In every test, Deet out-performed the other varieties, especially the so called "natural" varieties. One bite can cause you a lifetime of pain, disease, or death. So be careful what you tell other people to do, lest your over concern for side effects impacts their life forever!

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Aug 20, 2018 16:03:09   #
Buckeye73
 
It messed up the plastic cover on my wrist watch. You kind of wonder what it does to your body

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Aug 20, 2018 17:24:32   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself in keeping everything in like new condition.

Yesterday, while shooting my adult son’s rugby game (I am the officially unofficial team photographer) a weird thing happened.

I had sprayed a tiny bit of bug repellant on my lower legs because it was hot as bejesus and we were in a large field at a state park. I may or may not have scratched my legs during the game, but when I put my lens away I saw where a large portion of printed data (the area where the lens focal length f/stops, etc) is usually clustered near the zoom ring) had been partially smeared or dissolved.

This upsets my admittedly anal compulsive, possibly OCD self, in how I prefer my gear to look. Obviously, it’s only cosmetic, but it still has me mildly upset and wondering WTF that would happen. Plenty of photographers shoot in buggy conditions for crap’s sake and, imo, the printed info on a lens should not dissolve by possible contact with my fingers.

After all, I applied a tiny spritz of bug spray, not fricking paint remover. As a cancer survivor (well, you don’t survive cancer until you die from something else...another subject...) I do try and limit the amount of toxic stuff I place on my body.

Vent over. Thoughts? I don’t suppose Tamron would correct this, since it is cosmetic in nature only, but dammit, the lens is only three months old!
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself ... (show quote)


Sadly, bug repellent contains solvents. >Alan

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Aug 20, 2018 17:38:15   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
DEET translates to N,N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide as an ingredient.

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Aug 20, 2018 17:53:32   #
John Maher Loc: Northern Virginia
 
Use Picaridin instead of DEET. Available in Europe and Australia since 1998 and approved for US in 2005.
Not greasy and does not react with plastics.
See Picaridin vs. Deet
https://www.outdoors.org/articles/amc-outdoors/picaridin-vs-deet-which-is-the-best-insect-repellent

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Aug 20, 2018 18:21:48   #
fuminous Loc: Luling, LA... for now...
 
Yup, in Alaska, we used "Cutters" which was 100% deet... and it worked very well. Yes, it will make your fishing reel handle a bit sticky... forever... and create other unfortunate circumstances where plastic is vulnerable to deformation, dissolution and tactile oddities and, given the alternative of absolute mosquito hell... I'll take it. As a bonus field expedient, it is also a carburetor cleaner. I used it gallons of it... of course, I was taller then...

jscorbin wrote:
Then your Casio watch "crystal" is plastic.

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Aug 20, 2018 18:44:24   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
DaveC1 wrote:
Bug repellent is known to remove some paints as well.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/how-something-you-spray-on-your-kids-can-melt-your-128334848277.html

I've also heard it melts some plastics and rubber.


Oh and do not forget that carbonated colas remover paint and stains and almost anything the come into contact with could be dissolved.

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Aug 20, 2018 18:51:30   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself in keeping everything in like new condition.

Yesterday, while shooting my adult son’s rugby game (I am the officially unofficial team photographer) a weird thing happened.

I had sprayed a tiny bit of bug repellant on my lower legs because it was hot as bejesus and we were in a large field at a state park. I may or may not have scratched my legs during the game, but when I put my lens away I saw where a large portion of printed data (the area where the lens focal length f/stops, etc) is usually clustered near the zoom ring) had been partially smeared or dissolved.

This upsets my admittedly anal compulsive, possibly OCD self, in how I prefer my gear to look. Obviously, it’s only cosmetic, but it still has me mildly upset and wondering WTF that would happen. Plenty of photographers shoot in buggy conditions for crap’s sake and, imo, the printed info on a lens should not dissolve by possible contact with my fingers.

After all, I applied a tiny spritz of bug spray, not fricking paint remover. As a cancer survivor (well, you don’t survive cancer until you die from something else...another subject...) I do try and limit the amount of toxic stuff I place on my body.

Vent over. Thoughts? I don’t suppose Tamron would correct this, since it is cosmetic in nature only, but dammit, the lens is only three months old!
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself ... (show quote)


It's know that bug spray with DEET melts plastic. Read the disclaimer. I sometimes shoot with a local tour guide operator and he will absolutely allow no bug spray with DEET anywhere in his vehicle. This cause me to end up with about 20 mosquito bites on my shoulder area one time!

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Aug 20, 2018 19:20:56   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
I sprayed myself with bug spray too close to the car this summer and messed up paint ...... it did buff out, however, I felt terrible! Still better to me than Lyme disease or some mosquito carried diseases....

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Aug 20, 2018 19:55:44   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Gene51 wrote:
The culprit is DEET. It dissolves stuff, like rubber grips, etc. When I am going into bug infested areas, I use plastic gloves to apply the DEET, then put them in a plastic bag, and use a hand wash to rid my hands and fingers of the stuff. It is one of the few things that actually work, and given the fairly serious consequences of tick and other insect bites, namely death, it's a risk worth taking. However, I've been using DEET since the 80s and I'm still around and kicking. And I have only been bitten by a tick once, that one time I didn't use DEET.
The culprit is DEET. It dissolves stuff, like rubb... (show quote)

DEET is not DTT which has been banned for good reasons. That thing worked so well, it also killed the user!

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Aug 20, 2018 19:57:20   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
fuminous wrote:
Yup, in Alaska, we used "Cutters" which was 100% deet... and it worked very well. Yes, it will make your fishing reel handle a bit sticky... forever... and create other unfortunate circumstances where plastic is vulnerable to deformation, dissolution and tactile oddities and, given the alternative of absolute mosquito hell... I'll take it. As a bonus field expedient, it is also a carburetor cleaner. I used it gallons of it... of course, I was taller then...

You.... MELTED DOWN?????

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Aug 20, 2018 19:57:25   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
texaseve wrote:
I sprayed myself with bug spray too close to the car this summer and messed up paint ...... it did buff out, however, I felt terrible! Still better to me than Lyme disease or some mosquito carried diseases....


Absolutely!!! The best protection needs a little bit of careful usage!

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Aug 20, 2018 20:14:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fotobyferg wrote:
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself in keeping everything in like new condition.

Yesterday, while shooting my adult son’s rugby game (I am the officially unofficial team photographer) a weird thing happened.

I had sprayed a tiny bit of bug repellant on my lower legs because it was hot as bejesus and we were in a large field at a state park. I may or may not have scratched my legs during the game, but when I put my lens away I saw where a large portion of printed data (the area where the lens focal length f/stops, etc) is usually clustered near the zoom ring) had been partially smeared or dissolved.

This upsets my admittedly anal compulsive, possibly OCD self, in how I prefer my gear to look. Obviously, it’s only cosmetic, but it still has me mildly upset and wondering WTF that would happen. Plenty of photographers shoot in buggy conditions for crap’s sake and, imo, the printed info on a lens should not dissolve by possible contact with my fingers.

After all, I applied a tiny spritz of bug spray, not fricking paint remover. As a cancer survivor (well, you don’t survive cancer until you die from something else...another subject...) I do try and limit the amount of toxic stuff I place on my body.

Vent over. Thoughts? I don’t suppose Tamron would correct this, since it is cosmetic in nature only, but dammit, the lens is only three months old!
I take good care of my equipment and pride myself ... (show quote)


This reminded me that in the Army we would use bug repellent to remove camouflage paint from our face etc. Otherwise you took skin off trying to remove it. So it is a good paint remover.

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