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Oct 30, 2011 13:00:39   #
jepoplin Loc: Steamboat Springs, CO
 
This 'shooting in RAW' vs JPG seems to be a hot topic, and I tried to simplify it's understanding here:

http://johnepoplin.blogspot.com/2011/10/raw-vs-jpg-understanding-these-two.html

RAW images don't really a JPG imbedded, but the camera does show you an image based on some of the camera's setting at the time you pressed the shutter.

Suggestion for shooting RAW is to take all your settings to normal (ex color, contrast). You also can use Picasa, GIMP or Photoscape (just to name a few) for processing RAW images.

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Oct 30, 2011 13:02:47   #
dongrant Loc: Earth, I think!
 
jepoplin wrote:
This 'shooting in RAW' vs JPG seems to be a hot topic, and I tried to simplify it's understanding here:

http://johnepoplin.blogspot.com/2011/10/raw-vs-jpg-understanding-these-two.html

RAW images don't really a JPG imbedded, but the camera does show you an image based on some of the camera's setting at the time you pressed the shutter.

Suggestion for shooting RAW is to take all your settings to normal (ex color, contrast). You also can use Picasa, GIMP or Photoscape (just to name a few) for processing RAW images.
This 'shooting in RAW' vs JPG seems to be a hot to... (show quote)


NOTE GIMP will not handle raw unless you have the Ufraw plug-in.

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Oct 30, 2011 14:30:46   #
Cameraman
 
brucewells wrote:
mitchell j wrote:
does anybody have any tips for shooting in raw


Once you start shooting in RAW format, you must have a workflow that supports your preferences for the process. Equate it to the use of film, where the actual film has to be processed to get to the final image.

I will relate my process, but I'm not implying it's the best way, nor what you want to do. I use Photo Mechanic to ingest the images from the memory card. As they are ingested, I change the name of each image and add the IPTC data. I then set the color class and rating of all the images. Following that, I set the GPS coordinates on each image. Then, I add keywords for each image.

Once I'm finished with that, I fire up Capture NX2 and edit the actual images to my liking. As each is edited, I change the color class of the photo to match my class structure, then save a JPG of my edits for sharing.

Shooting RAW dictates that you create a workflow for yourself, then get software that supports your workflow.

Considerably more work, but you get the ability to work/improve your images, which is the major benefit.
quote=mitchell j does anybody have any tips for s... (show quote)


Excellent answrr. Just one question - eaxctly what do uyou do to the image when you "...set the GPS coordinates on each image...".

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Oct 30, 2011 14:47:05   #
fifthwish Loc: SE Florida
 
I shoot RAW approx. 90 percent of the time using my Nikon D300. I also expose manually as well and am very pleased with doing such. I do use auto focus and put every photo taken through Adobe CS4.

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Oct 30, 2011 16:44:12   #
NaomiHayes Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
I do not take offence to what anyone says because these comments are just opinions.
I've learned a lot of what I know from The Art Institute and years of experience. I have been in Photography since I was a little girl so almost 50 years.
Misleading or not...Lightroom is the best program that I've used for managing RAW files and Jpeg files. There is so much to Lightroom that most people are not aware of. I'm sure it could be intimidating but once you use it for a while...you couldn't do without it! Once again this is just my educated and experienced opinion :)

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Oct 30, 2011 17:07:56   #
PhotoRay
 
brucewells wrote:
mitchell j wrote:
does anybody have any tips for shooting in raw


Once you start shooting in RAW format, you must have a workflow that supports your preferences for the process. Equate it to the use of film, where the actual film has to be processed to get to the final image.

I will relate my process, but I'm not implying it's the best way, nor what you want to do. I use Photo Mechanic to ingest the images from the memory card. As they are ingested, I change the name of each image and add the IPTC data. I then set the color class and rating of all the images. Following that, I set the GPS coordinates on each image. Then, I add keywords for each image.

Once I'm finished with that, I fire up Capture NX2 and edit the actual images to my liking. As each is edited, I change the color class of the photo to match my class structure, then save a JPG of my edits for sharing.

Shooting RAW dictates that you create a workflow for yourself, then get software that supports your workflow.

Considerably more work, but you get the ability to work/improve your images, which is the major benefit.
quote=mitchell j does anybody have any tips for s... (show quote)


Thanks for the workflow description ... I'll have to see how those procedures fit with my camera and software. I have a Canon EOS, and it comes with "Digital Photo Professional" software. I'm trying to learn to edit the files better.

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Oct 30, 2011 17:09:15   #
fifthwish Loc: SE Florida
 
Could you please inform myself of lightroom, please. Where and how such is obtained etc.. It would be appreciated. I am currently curious on checking out comparable to Adobe systems and I may switch. I am currently having some problems using Adobe and have contacted them for assistance and treated very impersonal and told there would be quite a ridiculous charge to offer any assistance at all. Thank you for your advise.

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Oct 30, 2011 20:40:45   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
Capture 1 is great with RAW files and for those who use GPS on their camera, check this out!
http://www.phaseone.com/tutorials-pro-6#4
(Reference the last quarter of the Utube flick about GPS.)

For me, I shoot RAW + Jpeg. My Jpeg is set to record at only 2MB. That saves memory and speeds up finding photos since most are not catagorized. I just look through the Jpeg shots and at 2MB they are very quick! Once found I process that one.

For what it matters, people using Windows 7, Vista, and I think XP with service pack 3, can use Microsoft's new RAW displayer.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/microsoft-adds-raw-support-to-windows-at-last/

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Oct 30, 2011 21:17:16   #
BOB Loc: Texas
 
Hello , you have nice photos and nice camera and equipment . is Picasa and Picnik the only programs you use ?

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Oct 30, 2011 21:31:40   #
uprrtrainmover Loc: Kansas
 
fifthwish wrote:
Could you please inform myself of lightroom, please. Where and how such is obtained etc.. It would be appreciated. I am currently curious on checking out comparable to Adobe systems and I may switch. I am currently having some problems using Adobe and have contacted them for assistance and treated very impersonal and told there would be quite a ridiculous charge to offer any assistance at all. Thank you for your advise.


Lightroom is an Adobe product. When I went to the local computer program store to find it, I had to ask for it. They did not have it out on the shelf for everyone to see (or steal). I hate Adobe Photoshop products...except Lightroom.....I love it.

Sorry for jacking the original topic.

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Oct 31, 2011 00:01:35   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
BOB wrote:
Hello , you have nice photos and nice camera and equipment . is Picasa and Picnik the only programs you use ?


I think this question was potsed to me. For my macro-photography, I use only Picnik within Picasa, because I only slightly tweak & crop my images.

For my HDR images, I use a free program called "FDRTools Advanced": http://www.fdrtools.com/front_e.php

I don't have heavy PP needs, although I occasionally would like to insert clouds into bald skies. Someday I hope to learn a more sophisticated program.

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Oct 31, 2011 04:29:11   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
Thanks GE! I have been waiting for Windows viewer support of my RAW files for years. I just downloaded it, installed it and used it. Sure saves time when sorting thru uncataloged files.

However, with a little more discipline in my Workflow, importing everything into Adobe Lightroom (automatic group cataloging) and then culling out rejects is the best way to get your photos organized.

Thanks again for the link.

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Oct 31, 2011 06:40:59   #
Kathi Loc: Pennsylvania
 
NaomiHayes wrote:
I do not take offence to what anyone says because these comments are just opinions.
I've learned a lot of what I know from The Art Institute and years of experience. I have been in Photography since I was a little girl so almost 50 years.
Misleading or not...Lightroom is the best program that I've used for managing RAW files and Jpeg files. There is so much to Lightroom that most people are not aware of. I'm sure it could be intimidating but once you use it for a while...you couldn't do without it! Once again this is just my educated and experienced opinion :)
I do not take offence to what anyone says because ... (show quote)


A wise and respectful response!

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Oct 31, 2011 07:05:06   #
NaomiHayes Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
Thank you Kathi

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Oct 31, 2011 07:59:43   #
dongrant Loc: Earth, I think!
 
NaomiHayes wrote:
I do not take offence to what anyone says because these comments are just opinions.
I've learned a lot of what I know from The Art Institute and years of experience. I have been in Photography since I was a little girl so almost 50 years.
Misleading or not...Lightroom is the best program that I've used for managing RAW files and Jpeg files. There is so much to Lightroom that most people are not aware of. I'm sure it could be intimidating but once you use it for a while...you couldn't do without it! Once again this is just my educated and experienced opinion :)
I do not take offence to what anyone says because ... (show quote)


Yes, Lightroom is an excellent program for those who's needs, budgets, and work flows it fits, for others there may be better choices. I don't see how that you can say that it is intimidating though. It is very good that you have found a product that meets YOUR needs. My experiences Lightroom with left me with the feeling of nice but not what I and some others need. It is geared toward a particular market and for others it is like buying a multi-ton earth mover when what you need is an SUV. One should always match resources (equipment and software) to work requirements not market hype. This is a simple business fact not opinion. Many of the people on this site are other than mass production type professional photographers (wedding, events, portrait, etc). For many of them Lightroom is an expensive overkill that may be more of a problem that a help.

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