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Aug 5, 2012 14:28:40   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
You can always check mediamatters, snopes, other sites for accuracy. I think the networks for the most part do a rather good job or reporting news.

Are you confusing news with opinion?

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Aug 5, 2012 14:32:54   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
ole sarg wrote:
You can always check mediamatters, snopes, other sites for accuracy. I think the networks for the most part do a rather good job or reporting news.

Are you confusing news with opinion?


Sarg... you can't be serious about Media Matters... yes they will find errors in reporting, but only in rightwing reporting, there is no more biased source than Media Matters.

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Aug 5, 2012 15:24:54   #
dtcracer
 
ole sarg wrote:
When? When have left wing groups in an organized manner shouted down a candidate in a town hall meeting? When have left wing groups come to political meetings packing pistols?

During the anti war days of the 60s yes but that was over 50 years ago!


Well, we know they never showed up at a political meeting packing pistols, because they are all afraid the pistols would jump out of the holsters and start shooting people. Because, you know, according to them, guns kill, not people. Either that, or the ones that thought about it accidentally shot themselves first, because, you know, according to them anybody who has a gun is a danger to themselves and their families!

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Aug 5, 2012 15:41:10   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are made by the right wing media that media matters just doesn't have time to get to the few that are made by other outlets?

dtcracer: In the world of public debate one does not need a gun to intimidate only reasoned argument.

As a person on the left side of the political spectrum I can assure I have no fear of my gun jumping out of the holster. Nor to many of those I go shooting with on a regular basis. They and myself are just sane and know all about guns.

What do they say, big gun little dick....

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Aug 5, 2012 15:53:34   #
dtcracer
 
ole sarg wrote:
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are made by the right wing media that media matters just doesn't have time to get to the few that are made by other outlets?

dtcracer: In the world of public debate one does not need a gun to intimidate only reasoned argument.

As a person on the left side of the political spectrum I can assure I have no fear of my gun jumping out of the holster. Nor to many of those I go shooting with on a regular basis. They and myself are just sane and know all about guns.

What do they say, big gun little dick....
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are m... (show quote)
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Sarg, you need to lighten up, and learn when someone is joking. I know a lot of liberals who are gun enthusiasts. And I couldn't agree more about guns not belonging in a political debate.

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Aug 5, 2012 16:02:41   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
ole sarg wrote:
You can always check mediamatters, snopes, other sites for accuracy. I think the networks for the most part do a rather good job or reporting news.

Are you confusing news with opinion?


I am referring to suppressing news that is damaging to your favored cause and airing ideologically motivated speculation of what people you disapprove of might do but who never actually get around to fulfilling your fantasies about them.

Of being careful to verify and maybe suppress facts in a story to avoid perpetuating stereotypes of one group while being so eager to smear a disapproved group, that you rush it on are or into print without waiting to properly fact check it and risking having to publish a retraction, which will be buried as deep as possible.

Or, now that you mention opinion, letting it creep from the opinion page into the news pages to mistaken for news.

Or doctoring a 911 call to mislead the public in a story that already been slanted with selective reporting. Or suppress coverage of revenge hate crimes inspired by irresponsible and misleading reporting.

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Aug 5, 2012 16:02:43   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
ole sarg wrote:
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are made by the right wing media that media matters just doesn't have time to get to the few that are made by other outlets?

dtcracer: In the world of public debate one does not need a gun to intimidate only reasoned argument.

As a person on the left side of the political spectrum I can assure I have no fear of my gun jumping out of the holster. Nor to many of those I go shooting with on a regular basis. They and myself are just sane and know all about guns.

What do they say, big gun little dick....
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are m... (show quote)


Well lets see sarge, there are volumes of blogs about Media Matters but in an effort to stay as neutral as I can, I will source Wiki.. They are heavily biased and funded by the likes of George Soros.

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Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive[1] media watchdog group that says it is "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media".[2] Set up as a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization, MMfA was founded in 2004 by journalist and author David Brock.[3] Eric E. Burns served as MMfA's president until 2011.[4]

In 2008 Jacques Steinberg of The New York Times reported on how Media Matters is viewed. David Folkenflik of National Public Radio told him that though Media Matters looked "at every dangling participle, every dependent clause, every semicolon, every quotation" for the benefit of "a cause, a party, a candidate, that they may have some feelings for", they were still a useful source for leads, partly due to the "breadth of their research". Conversely, political analyst and columnist Stuart Rothenberg told Steinberg that he did not pay attention to them, as he had no confidence in "ideological stuff". In Steinberg's view, Media Matters was a new weapon for the Democratic party employing "rapid-fire, technologically sophisticated means to call out what it considers 'conservative misinformation' on air or in print, then feed it to a Rolodex of reporters, cable channels and bloggers hungry for grist".[17] According to an Economist blog posting, "because it is dedicated to critiquing distortions by conservatives, its critiques carry no weight with conservatives."[35]

In 2004 MMfA received the endorsement of the Democracy Alliance, a partnership of wealthy and politically active donors. The Alliance itself does not fund its any of its endorsees, but many wealthy Alliance members acted on the endorsement and donated directly to MMfA.[19][20][21] Media Matters as a matter of course has a policy of not comprehensively listing donors. Six years after the Alliance endorsed MMfA, financier George SorosĀ—a founding and continuing member of the AllianceĀ—announced in 2010 that he was donating $1 million to MMfA. Soros said: "Despite repeated assertions to the contrary by various Fox News commentators, I have not to date been a funder of Media Matters." Soros said concern over "recent evidence suggesting that the incendiary rhetoric of Fox News hosts may incite violence" had moved him to donate to MMfA, which thanked Soros for announcing his donation "quickly and transparently".[22]
Former chief of staff to president Bill Clinton John Podesta provided office space for Media Matters early in its formation at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank that he had created in 2002.[23] Hillary Clinton advised Media Matters in its early stages out of a belief that progressives should follow conservatives in forming think tanks and advocacy groups to support their political goals.[23][24]
Media Matters hired numerous political professionals who had worked for Democratic politicians and for other progressive groups.[18][25] In 2004 article on Media Matters the National Review referred to MMfA staffers who had recently worked on the presidential campaigns of John Edwards and Wesley Clark, for Congressman Barney Frank, and for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.[18]

In 2010 MMfA declared a "War on Fox". Brock said MMfA would focus its efforts on Fox and select conservative websites in what Brock called an "all-out campaign of 'guerrilla warfare and sabotage'" against Fox News.[60] MMfA said the greater attention given to Fox was part of a campaign to educate the public about distoritions of conservative, and the greater attention given to Fox was in line with its prominence in conservative media. MMfA said its Drop Fox campaign for advertisers to boycott Fox was also part of its educational mission. MMfA also said that changing Fox's behavior, not shutting it down, was its goal.
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Aug 5, 2012 16:05:10   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
You would think that will all of the political banter here, we would not be out taking any pictures...I still am....Here's a few examples I just took while out walking my dog...


Nice pictures and a break from .... here

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Aug 5, 2012 16:10:29   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
One guy says mm is ok one says i don't pay any attention to it.

mm concentrates on fox because they make stuff up and present it as news instead of opinion.

they do present citations to back their stuff. i would not discount them, but i do check to see just how much they are fudging.

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Aug 5, 2012 16:12:17   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
ole sarg wrote:
Blurreyed could it be because so many errors are made by the right wing media that media matters just doesn't have time to get to the few that are made by other outlets?


You're joking, right?

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Aug 5, 2012 16:15:11   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
ole sarg wrote:
One guy says mm is ok one says i don't pay any attention to it.

mm concentrates on fox because they make stuff up and present it as news instead of opinion.

they do present citations to back their stuff. i would not discount them, but i do check to see just how much they are fudging.


If media matters focused its attention on other news sites as much as it does on Fox it would find alot of crap to talk about, I am not saying that their reporting is 100% garbage but it is no less slanted than is the station that they are reporting on. Media Matters has an agenda of discrediting conservative media as its starting point that that alone should indicate that they also will distort and twist their reporting... MM is like any other liberal site, attacking the conservative POV while giving liberal media outlets a pass on their distortions of the news.

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Aug 5, 2012 16:15:27   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
ole sarg wrote:

mm concentrates on fox because they make stuff up and present it as news instead of opinion.


And that differentiates Fox from MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS how?

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Aug 5, 2012 16:16:06   #
JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
One guy says mm is ok one says i don't pay any attention to it.

mm concentrates on fox because they make stuff up and present it as news instead of opinion.

they do present citations to back their stuff. i would not discount them, but i do check to see just how much they are fudging.


If media matters focused its attention on other news sites as much as it does on Fox it would find alot of crap to talk about, I am not saying that their reporting is 100% garbage but it is no less slanted than is the station that they are reporting on. Media Matters has an agenda of discrediting conservative media as its starting point that that alone should indicate that they also will distort and twist their reporting... MM is like any other liberal site, attacking the conservative POV while giving liberal media outlets a pass on their distortions of the news.
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Exactly :thumbup:

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Aug 5, 2012 19:25:53   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
MSNBC calls itself an opinion channel. They have NBC as a news channel. CNN is pretty much straight news as is CBS.

I think the lady reporter on NBC should have been fired or yanked off the air for awhile for the tape error. The person who did the fudged Zimmerman tape in Miami was fired as was the Miami producer. Who was the last person fired from Fox?

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Aug 5, 2012 19:29:19   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
What's good for the Goose is not good for the Gander?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/18/Hypocrisy-Reid-Pelosi-Wasserman-Schultz-Refuse-To-Release-Their-Tax-Returns

And before you say they are not running for President, they all hold high offices & as such need to be accountable as well...

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