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Aug 4, 2012 08:45:32   #
lachmap Loc: Sydney Australia
 
Hi guys. I love B&W. I shoot colour and then play with it in paintshop x2. I choose the channel mixer -> monochrome and play with the source channels. Here is one example. Mind you the original wasn't too good to start with.







another one
another one...



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Aug 4, 2012 08:59:49   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
What is Nik's silver flex?

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Aug 4, 2012 09:01:46   #
lachmap Loc: Sydney Australia
 
And some more: A spider in my back yard.



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Aug 4, 2012 09:38:26   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
As an experment i have had somone (severel differant) look through about 100 B&W p;citures and then ask them to tell me about 10 of them. Almost always they pick about 7 B&W and # color. I have shot in the in camera B&W and then went to Color and converted afterwords. I liked the results from the color conversions. My D90 has some filter controls in it's B&W mode that I need to exp;erment with. By the way in darkroom days you had differant grades of paper that were differant contrasts that made a big differance in the results. - Dave

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Aug 4, 2012 10:05:00   #
finalimage Loc: Brattleboro, VT
 
Silver Efex Pro 2 is a plugin from Nik software. It is compatible with Photoshop, Photoshop Elements and Lightroom. Probably more. It allows you to convert color to black and white with many options to help you with style, contrast, lighting etc.You can try it on a trial basis.
Pepsiman wrote:
What is Nik's silver flex?

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Aug 4, 2012 10:19:49   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
Thank you for you promp answer....I'll stay with Picasa...

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Aug 4, 2012 11:11:51   #
Gregger Loc: Phoenix area
 
I enjoy BW for one reason. They give me a nostalgic feeling. BW photos take me back to a time when I was young and life was simple. Maybe it wasn't, but in the mind of a child it seems as such. I have a nephew who
Is 25 and when I send him BW from the past photos he always uses the term "simpler times". Of course to adults, as now, life was not simple,

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Aug 4, 2012 11:36:35   #
pcwilson Loc: New Mexico
 
FredCDobbs wrote:
I think black and white is at it's best when dramatic contrast is high. Also for capturing moody dark images. That said, sometimes the opposite applies, like this white mission.


This is a fabulous image!

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Aug 4, 2012 11:47:34   #
FredCDobbs Loc: Los Angeles area.
 
Thanks PC, Mission San Xavier De Bac in Tucson,Az. It's still there and you are not that far away. Here's another from the mission. This shot has gone away forever. The tree was removed and an ugly electrical connection box installed on the wall next to the gate. Annoys me.



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Aug 4, 2012 12:04:16   #
johnbee418 Loc: Manchester Conn.
 
PalePictures wrote:
1) Always shoot in color.
2) Desaturation is never the right way to convert to B&W.
3) PS has a convert to Black and white.(I never use it.)
4) There are probably 10 different methods to convert to B&W. Depending on the photo some produce better results than others.
5)NIK software makes Silver effects pro(A plugin for B&W conversion.) It handles most type conversions.
6) Unless you want to go to school on B&W, I would suggest the Plugin above. Most manual conversions in PS are many steps. Its not a simple solution.
1) Always shoot in color. br 2) Desaturation is ne... (show quote)


I disagree. If one wants a B&W image, then choose B&W to take the shot. That will limit greatly the color-seeking pixels, allowing ALL the pixels to render a degree of gray. And thus rendering the maximum view of the subject. This also allows more pixels per inch and, ergo, more resolution in the final image. Furthermore, one doesn't have to mess with a post-picture adjustment.

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Aug 4, 2012 12:46:38   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
I started with 4X5 sheet film in the early '60s...few objects excite old photographers more than the depth of tones, etc. in a large format B&W negative...if you ever get to see 8X10 or 11X14 negatives and the resulting contacts...OMG!!!
In the digital era...someone earlier mentioned the fact that there are many, many ways to create B&W starting with shooting them as B&W. My standard is shooting RAW then using one of several profiles provided in Phase One software. I personally think these are very hard to beat. You can actually choose under ICC profiles "B&W yellow filter", "B&W Panchromatic", etc. And it's just one click...bingo...and the results are stunning.
In photoshop there are many ways and you can play for hours and hours...but the simple Phase One effects is very elegant, slick and quick.

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Aug 4, 2012 12:49:01   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
Digital cameras record the data in color, it just shows in the view as Black and White. I know that's the case with raw files but I don't know it that the same with jpeg.


johnbee418 wrote:
PalePictures wrote:
1) Always shoot in color.
2) Desaturation is never the right way to convert to B&W.
3) PS has a convert to Black and white.(I never use it.)
4) There are probably 10 different methods to convert to B&W. Depending on the photo some produce better results than others.
5)NIK software makes Silver effects pro(A plugin for B&W conversion.) It handles most type conversions.
6) Unless you want to go to school on B&W, I would suggest the Plugin above. Most manual conversions in PS are many steps. Its not a simple solution.
1) Always shoot in color. br 2) Desaturation is ne... (show quote)


I disagree. If one wants a B&W image, then choose B&W to take the shot. That will limit greatly the color-seeking pixels, allowing ALL the pixels to render a degree of gray. And thus rendering the maximum view of the subject. This also allows more pixels per inch and, ergo, more resolution in the final image. Furthermore, one doesn't have to mess with a post-picture adjustment.
quote=PalePictures 1) Always shoot in color. br 2... (show quote)

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Aug 4, 2012 12:54:19   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Along with strong elements of contrast, you have great composition.

I think B&W forces one to view a scene as one of contrast (light to dark/dark to light). In so doing, it forces the photographer to consider the composition in order to get contrast. Thus in so taking the photograph, the photo becomes in some respects a lesson in surrealism.




FredCDobbs wrote:
Another one.

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Aug 4, 2012 13:44:12   #
thegrover Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
 
Lightroom 4 IMHO is better for converting color to B&W than Photoshop Elements.

Flower in BW LR4
Flower in BW LR4...

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Aug 4, 2012 14:03:00   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
I tend to go a little over the top when I covert mine, but that's where my taste is right now. I think you have to shoot for yourself first, then try to fit in the groove somewhere along the line. Or go out and be that someone different and they may follow. Check out www.500px.com and search the images under B&W/ favorites, you will see some great photos, our what people hold up as great images. I use the Nik software, Silver Efex Pro2 for conversion. I always start in color. I like these here that I posted, but what does that really mean.
gledor42 wrote:
What makes a B&W great?
Will it look better if shot on the B&W
Mode at the get go as opposed to converting it
in PS. ?
Thanks







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