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Jul 8, 2018 12:44:06   #
Tommg
 
none ... no reason whatsoever ...

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Jul 8, 2018 12:56:21   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tomad wrote:
No DSLRs in my home (do have several film SLR's that are gathering dust); three "1 inch" sensor enthusiast cameras and one full frame mirrorless camera seem to cover all bases.


Want to sell those dusty SLR cameras?

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Jul 8, 2018 12:57:54   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
Ditto that for me too brother;
if what you got works for you then you are good to go.
Why jump into a DSLR if you do not need one.
You previously had an SLR, as I did too.
But !
Since there is a Universe full of all kinds of camera's, there is something for everyone and it reads like you have already found your nitch in the universe.
However, since you posted this question to the forum, are you not 'kinda curious' and fishing around with the idea of trying out a DSLR ???????
My psychic powers have diminished and left me so I cannot help you with that, but, hey, after all the great feed back from the hoggers here, aren't you just a 'little bit curious' enough to just 'maybe' borrow one out and just play around with one and see if 'maybe' it could expand your photography experiences.
Just thinking !!!!

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Jul 8, 2018 12:58:27   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
bsprague wrote:
Besides me?

I had a couple Nikon SLRs that went away when film (mostly) died.

I did not embrace digital but shot family events and some travel snapshots with a Canon Elph and Nikon Coolpix.

When I decided to up the quality, I got an RX100 because the sensor was so much bigger.

After that, I got three different Panasonic M4/3 cameras.

I have no idea what I'm missing by not having a "real" DSLR!

What reasons are there that I should get one.
Besides me? br br I had a couple Nikon SLRs that ... (show quote)


Simplicity. No changing lenses, no thinking about exposure triangle, no real expenses. One does have to work with the limitations, but one usually develops a more "Go for it!" attitude. Nothing wrong with it; just a different path that can be followed.

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Jul 8, 2018 12:58:30   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
My computer says this is at five pages!

I've enjoyed the discussion. And, I doubt I will ever get a DSLR!

FWIW, there is a news bit this week that Canon will be providing another mirrorless in 2018. And Nikon will be following.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:01:08   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
bsprague wrote:
there is a news bit this week that Canon will be providing another mirrorless in 2018. And Nikon will be following.


Lol, let’s just hope it isn’t a full frame without a viewfinder.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:06:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tdekany wrote:
Lol, let’s just hope it isn’t a full frame without a viewfinder.


I THINK that’s an oblique reference to the dipsticks who still think mirrorless cameras don’t have viewfinders...

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Jul 8, 2018 13:26:43   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
JD750 wrote:
I thought of another reason to buy a dSLR. Because you like to have to clean your sensor regularly. My cameras require much much much less sensor maintanence than my DSLRs.


Some like to look through an optical view finder and like more camera to hold on to.
For me looking through a view finder at a digital image creates a disconnected shooting experience.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:42:28   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
JD750 wrote:
Want to sell those dusty SLR cameras?


Quite possibly, they are manual Minoltas from the 70's and 80's. PM me for more info if you're interested.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:59:12   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
karno wrote:
Some like to look through an optical view finder and like more camera to hold on to.
For me looking through a view finder at a digital image creates a disconnected shooting experience.


I have heard this argument. It is personal preference and not functional. And there is nothing wrong with that. You should use the camera that you like.

But just an FYI, modern EVFs are fully capable. The professional video guys have been using EVFs for years.

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Jul 8, 2018 14:05:14   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
karno wrote:
Some like to look through an optical view finder and like more camera to hold on to.
For me looking through a view finder at a digital image creates a disconnected shooting experience.


"For me looking through a view finder at a digital image creates a disconnected shooting experience."

Try it again somewhere with the newer, more expensive mirrorless. You see what your going to get. You are not looking across a mirror and through the lens. Instead you are looking at what the sensor sees through the lens. And, it doesn't blank out, even on slow to medium burst.

I see DSLR users doing what I think is called gimping. The take a shot, then peek at the screen to see if the exposure or whatever is "right". Mirrorless shooters can do that, but it is a lot less necessary. You are already seeing the shot when you press the button.

A learning experience for me was reading up on how to shoot long exposures (for creamy, blurry water) using strong ND filters. I got it all figured out. Measured the exposure without the filter and then put the filter on. The idea is that on a DSLR the filter will make it so dark that you can't frame of focus. I put the filter on, put it on Aperature, looked in the viewfinder and it was bright like normal and showed what the new shutter speed would be.

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Jul 8, 2018 14:51:35   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
burkphoto wrote:
I THINK that’s an oblique reference to the dipsticks who still think mirrorless cameras don’t have viewfinders...

Like the Leica MDa?
http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Leitz/MDa.html



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Jul 8, 2018 15:02:05   #
ILFarmer
 
I don't know when it will happen, but I think full frame cameras will disappear. The history of electronics is smaller faster more powerful, and cheaper. Whether DSLR s disappear is another matter, but I will never travel without my Nikon P900 or a better replacement. I have never done this, but next month we are going on a bus trip through national parks in the west. I will have my Panasonic FZ1000 with too. Some of you have suggested having a back up camera. I can.t imagine the cost, space, and weight it would take to equip a DSLR required to capture everything I can get with what I have, but my eyes are undoubtedly not as good as many of you, so you do what you have to to meet your standards. I am always anxious to upgrade my equipment to the next best thing.

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Jul 8, 2018 15:03:08   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
JD750 wrote:
I have heard this argument. It is personal preference and not functional. And there is nothing wrong with that. You should use the camera that you like.

But just an FYI, modern EVFs are fully capable. The professional video guys have been using EVFs for years.


Thanks for the schooling I had no idea a mirrorless camera was functional? Wow interesting.
I agree to each there own but by no means does that make dslr obsolete in my book and yes everything is personal preference. as far as Sony they are good cameras but if they don't fit your hands they are worthless and that is the definition of function. Just FYI that's why I am looking at the Fuji 50r to go along with the D850 the best of both worlds, now I just need the winning ticket.

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Jul 8, 2018 15:35:53   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
bsprague wrote:
"For me looking through a view finder at a digital image creates a disconnected shooting experience."

Try it again somewhere with the newer, more expensive mirrorless. You see what your going to get. You are not looking across a mirror and through the lens. Instead you are looking at what the sensor sees through the lens. And, it doesn't blank out, even on slow to medium burst.

I see DSLR users doing what I think is called gimping. The take a shot, then peek at the screen to see if the exposure or whatever is "right". Mirrorless shooters can do that, but it is a lot less necessary. You are already seeing the shot when you press the button.

A learning experience for me was reading up on how to shoot long exposures (for creamy, blurry water) using strong ND filters. I got it all figured out. Measured the exposure without the filter and then put the filter on. The idea is that on a DSLR the filter will make it so dark that you can't frame of focus. I put the filter on, put it on Aperature, looked in the viewfinder and it was bright like normal and showed what the new shutter speed would be.
"For me looking through a view finder at a di... (show quote)


No disrespect to you,
But you don't have the mirrorless camera on wheels that takes the image for you, you don't even have to get out of bed to catch sunrise.

Many many people have already honed these simple skills like neutral density filters and I like the skills I have mastered I don't really need or want a camera to do it for me. It keeps me thinking it just like having a car with park assist give me a brake soon only the people with older cars will remember how to park!

Don't get me wrong I like some technology but not so much when it takes away the need for learned skill and the excitement for the unknown.

Slap that 15 stop on there and tell me what happens.

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