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Jul 8, 2018 09:22:16   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 

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Jul 8, 2018 09:39:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
The only bad photos of the Lady are the ones not taken. This is so nice. My PP skills are very minimal. Might I ask what you did? Great image, by the way. I'd do it HUGE on metal.

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Jul 8, 2018 11:17:40   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Well done Bob.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:14:16   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thanks, Val. Much appreciated.
--Bob
nanaval wrote:
Very good Bob...

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Jul 8, 2018 13:14:53   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thank you very much, nimbushopper.
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nimbushopper wrote:
Fantastic photos!

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Jul 8, 2018 13:15:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
And that, Alf, is exactly my point. It is the photograph I made.
--Bob
alf85 wrote:
And that is no longer the photo you took.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:16:34   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thanks for the thumbs, John. They are greatly appreciated.
--Bob
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Jul 8, 2018 13:17:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Phlash, thank you for the thumbs, as well.
--Bob
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Jul 8, 2018 13:19:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
AzPicLady, thank you very much. The last venture to GCNP resulted in no photographs taken. The light just wasn't there. I did, however, get a really nice photo of a storm moving towards The S.F. Peaks on the way back to the Phoenix area.
--Bob
AzPicLady wrote:
The only bad photos of the Lady are the ones not taken. This is so nice. My PP skills are very minimal. Might I ask what you did? Great image, by the way. I'd do it HUGE on metal.

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Jul 8, 2018 13:20:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thank you, Earnest. Much appreciated.
--Bob
ebbote wrote:
Well done Bob.

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Jul 8, 2018 14:02:31   #
gener202002
 
I love the contrast between the gray clouds and the colorful canyon walls!

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Jul 8, 2018 14:18:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thank you for checking this out, gener202002.
--Bob
gener202002 wrote:
I love the contrast between the gray clouds and the colorful canyon walls!

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Jul 8, 2018 15:08:56   #
neillaubenthal
 
alf85 wrote:
And that is no longer the photo you took.
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Well…let's talk about that. Few…if any…lens/body combinations accurately reproduce what the eye actually saw…the dynamic range of the sensor is less than that of your eye. This is why HDR was invented…it more closely resembles what the eye saw as long as one is careful not to overdo it.

Every photo ever taken is post processed…if you do it in camera to jpeg guess what, it's processed. If you do it in RAW, guess what, it's processed.

Photos should look like what the shooter wants them to look like…especially since no camera made can accurately capture a scene. So those folks…and news organizations that ban post processing…just don't understand that even a jpeg out of the camera is processed…it's just processed according to the body maker's choices. Since it's impossible to 100% accurately image a scene…and since every photo you see is processed in some fashion…purists need to get off of their high horse.

Even Ansel Adams processed his images…ever heard of dodging and burning?

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Jul 8, 2018 15:20:58   #
gener202002
 
neillaubenthal wrote:
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Well…let's talk about that. Few…if any…lens/body combinations accurately reproduce what the eye actually saw…the dynamic range of the sensor is less than that of your eye. This is why HDR was invented…it more closely resembles what the eye saw as long as one is careful not to overdo it.

Every photo ever taken is post processed…if you do it in camera to jpeg guess what, it's processed. If you do it in RAW, guess what, it's processed.

Photos should look like what the shooter wants them to look like…especially since no camera made can accurately capture a scene. So those folks…and news organizations that ban post processing…just don't understand that even a jpeg out of the camera is processed…it's just processed according to the body maker's choices. Since it's impossible to 100% accurately image a scene…and since every photo you see is processed in some fashion…purists need to get off of their high horse.

Even Ansel Adams processed his images…ever heard of dodging and burning?
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Yes, the eye is an incredible piece of machinery that nothing man made can actually touch. Maybe in ten thousand years they will find a way to match the eye, but not now. One thing cameras are notoriously bad at, is processing shadows, making them look the way the eye would see it. It cannot compensate like the eye can. And that brings up another point, the eye itself processes the data and the image that comes to it, which is really nothing more than a bunch of waves of energy that the eye converts into an image.

It's a little ironic, but when I turn photos into stock agencies, they are somewhat processed, beyond what the camera does, but if I process them too much, even if they look better that way, the stock agencies reject them because according to them the buyers want to be able to do their own post processing on them to make them into what THEY want. Pictures can be processed multiple ways and still look both awesome and realistic. Of course, black and white is also a form of post processing, or camera processing if you prefer it that way, and many people, myself included, love black and white.

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Jul 8, 2018 16:19:15   #
Doug Estes Loc: Nederland, Texas
 
I agree sir. Beautiful capture. Thanks for sharing.

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