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Jul 4, 2018 10:37:28   #
pendennis
 
Diocletian wrote:
Uh....in some circles it is called 'canned hunt' and you can find the specifics on wikipedia...
So I'm a little confused as to why you would say that in all cases the hunter sneaks up on a savage, wild beast to kill him....and in all cases the hunter is in danger.

Hello, anybody home out there?


Yes, there are "canned" hunts, but usually on land controlled by a rancher. There are also hunts in Africa in the bush country, and those are not the same. The view tube video has been verified many times as being as real as it gets.

I never stated that hunters were always in danger. As you mentioned, in controlled hunts, the danger level can be low. However, in the case of a wounded animal, all bets are off. They react in ways unexpected by hunters and guides.

While I've never hunted in Africa, I've been on boar hunts where the prey wasn't cooperative when I shot them. And if you've never faced off with a wounded, angry 250 lb boar, you don't know how exciting that can get. And yes, I always consumed the meat. Boar, when properly smoked and cooked, is very tasty. The bacon is delicious.

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Jul 4, 2018 10:45:11   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I haven't read all of the conversation. My take, however, is that the huntress, by putting this up on social media is calling attention to herself. It wasn't enough to kill the giraffe. She had to make sure the whole world knew she had done it, despite what it might think of her action. My guess is that she's an attention craving narcissist and this is how she gets her 15 minutes of fame. How many other trophy hunters have you heard about lately? They do it on the down-low, so to speak.

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Jul 4, 2018 10:57:45   #
pendennis
 
SteveR wrote:
I haven't read all of the conversation. My take, however, is that the huntress, by putting this up on social media is calling attention to herself. It wasn't enough to kill the giraffe. She had to make sure the whole world knew she had done it, despite what it might think of her action. My guess is that she's an attention craving narcissist and this is how she gets her 15 minutes of fame. How many other trophy hunters have you heard about lately? They do it on the down-low, so to speak.


Well observed!

In an era of me-me-me, I'm not surprised. There's always the desire for humans to communicate and tell their story(ies). I know a number of hunters who taken animals on nearly every continent, and the only record is a few pictures taken at the time of the hunt. By and large, they aren't braggarts about their feats. They enjoyed the hunts for the private satisfaction.

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Jul 4, 2018 11:38:28   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
johnnievegas wrote:
I expect the hunter had to pay for a permit, guide etc., which benefited the remaining animals as well as African workers. Otherwise the park would have had to kill the animal and no one would have benefited except the younger male giraffes. I


Thank you for a common sense post. I hunted Africa years ago and it cost me close to $40,000. Most of the money went to state game departments to help pay the cost of catching poachers etc. All meat went to natives with none wasted.

Most of the Liberal horse crap posted here is from people who have no idea what they are talking about factually but who just hear that game is wasted, animals on the endangered list are slaughtered indiscriminately and laws are not followed. In reality, on my safari there were two game wardens with me on every hunt. Each animal killed was selected by the experienced guide as to older age to take out the older animals in the herd. Elephants were everywhere and at times were a nuisance.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 11:54:34   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Diocletian wrote:
Uh....in some circles it is called 'canned hunt' and you can find the specifics on wikipedia...
So I'm a little confused as to why you would say that in all cases the hunter sneaks up on a savage, wild beast to kill him....and in all cases the hunter is in danger.

Hello, anybody home out there?


Yes I am home and right here to tell you that you are talking apples and oranges. The so called canned hunts you are talking about sometimes take place on possibly 300,000 acres of land. On that land they run free. Please take your head from a dark place and try to have some clue to what you are talking about.

Many people think all African animals live all over every country in Africa. But that is not true. Waterbuck which livevin Zimbabwe are not necessarily found in other countries. So some WILD, did you read WILD, waterbuck might be captured and released onto one of these game ranches. They may be shot. But don’t think for a minute that these animals are not WILD.

In some cases the hunter is very much in danger. I know you would be pleased to hear of a hunter being killed. That is how people like you seem to be.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 11:56:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Diocletian wrote:
And as we all know, everything we see on youtube is 100% accurate.

Roflms... or..rolling on floor laughing myself sick..


There is no convincing you of common sense or facts is there? You must be proud.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 12:37:50   #
Ozzie2154 Loc: New Jersey
 
Screw her and all trophy hunters!

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Jul 4, 2018 12:43:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Ozzie2154 wrote:
Screw her and all trophy hunters!


Now that was helpful. Please tell us what a trophy hunter is, according to you. I keep hearing the term but nobody has defined it. I wonder if you have any idea what it is you are hating.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 13:04:29   #
HRBIEL Loc: Rapid City, SD
 
As is usually the case in nature, females of most species always gravitate to the biggest, strongest and most dominant male to father their offspring. Taking this male giraffe out of the environment because he was killing lesser males only proves he was still the most dominant in the area. He was culled before his time. Eventually his place at the top of the hierarchy would have been challenged and he would have been defeated possibly killed, suffered a broken leg and starved to death naturally. Granted he provided 4000 lbs of meat to local villagers but that denied meat to the naturally occurring scavengers such as hyenas, lions, leopards, wild dogs, vultures etc. Decide for yourself which group is more important.

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Jul 4, 2018 13:51:53   #
hasslichhog
 
Dirty Harry

I hope she suffers the same demise the giraffe did!

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Jul 4, 2018 14:10:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Another I’ll informed voice heard from. Females are basically herded like slaves and are, in effect, herded by the herd bull or buck. Other males will come in and while the dominant male is fighting off some, others are breeding the females. I have personally watched this for over 30 years. Just because the dominant male can fight if younger males does not mean he is still in the game where breeding is concerned.

If you read the article I believe the young lady was told to shoot this specific giraffe by someone who knows what is going on. Apparently you think your beliefs are more accurate and acceptable than the game guide or specific wildlife official that was present. How unbelievably self absorbed you must be.

In all of African hunting the hunter will be told by the guide which specific animal to take out of the herd. His experience and long training are what counts in the end. This girl could not have shot that particular giraffe unless approved by the guide.

It appears that none of you whiners ever gives an inch. Even with you who know nothing about hunting, nothing about firearms or anything remotely close, you make up your mind that the girl was totally wrong and no amount of common sense will sway you from your self appointed stupidity. Thank God you wear vagina hats so we can tell who you are.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 14:14:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
hasslichhog wrote:
Dirty Harry

I hope she suffers the same demise the giraffe did!


More violence from the Left. Why are none of us surprised?

I wonder how many of you are actually capable of the violent rhetoric you spew. Do you stand in front of a mirror daily, like Robert DeNiro, and practice saying, You talkin to me? Are YOU talkin to ME? Keep practicing. You don’t quite have it.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 14:26:33   #
HRBIEL Loc: Rapid City, SD
 
Dennis[/quote]
It appears that none of you whiners ever gives an inch. Even with you who know nothing about hunting, nothing about firearms or anything remotely close, you make up your mind that the girl was totally wrong and no amount of common sense will sway you from your self appointed stupidity. Thank God you wear vagina hats so we can tell who you are.


You made a whole lot of assumptions about me without any evidence. BTW, did I say anything about whether the girl was right or wrong? And what are "vagina hats"? Show me yours.

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Jul 4, 2018 14:33:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
HRBIEL wrote:
Dennis

It appears that none of you whiners ever gives an inch. Even with you who know nothing about hunting, nothing about firearms or anything remotely close, you make up your mind that the girl was totally wrong and no amount of common sense will sway you from your self appointed stupidity. Thank God you wear vagina hats so we can tell who you are.


You made a whole lot of assumptions about me without any evidence. BTW, did I say anything about whether the girl was right or wrong? And what are "vagina hats"? Show me yours.[/quote]

I was just answering your post. Where did I go wrong? I am about as Conservative as one can get. We don’t wear vagina hats. We leave that to Liberal ❄️ snowflakes.

Dennis

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Jul 4, 2018 16:33:27   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
alby wrote:
did you read the entire article? seems it was too old to breed and was killing younger bulls and the article claims it was advantageous to cull the older bull..... just saying what i read..


Too often the "Soft in the head, know nothing about conservation" breed rears their ugly (and empty) heads whenever these things happen. These hunts are fully sponsored by the host countries with protection of wildlife in mind.
JHChrist! people think for one minute here. No body is killing "Bambi". If allowed to go unchecked then all of the wildlife and their habitats will suffer. Stop indulging in anthropormorhism and THINK with the BRAIN and not the heart.

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