Are the emotions I want to show on this beach being shown
Jun 26, 2018 15:40:18 #
Getting out of my bubble is hard. I WANTED to express: space, distance, subtle color, peaceful solitude, and good but somewhat daring composition. It is a very satisfying photo to me in those areas. You all could help by telling me where my attempt succeeds and where it fails.
Jun 26, 2018 15:48:21 #
kenievans
Loc: Dallas
Bob, I think you did an excellent job with the emotion. I love the sweep and curve of the beach as it leads you to the figure in the distance and those colors are gorgeous. Its beautiful and I would hang that on my wall in a heartbeat.
Jun 26, 2018 15:55:05 #
artBob wrote:
Getting out of my bubble is hard. I WANTED to express: space, distance, subtle color, peaceful solitude, and good but somewhat daring composition. It is a very satisfying photo to me in those areas. You all could help by telling me where my attempt succeeds and where it fails.
Beautiful colors. If you framed the right hand intersection of the beach/tide in the lower 3rd, the sweep of the tideline to the trees in the upper third would be more dramatic. Leading lines are more effective if they cross the entire image, dragging the viewers eye. Right not, the tideline serves to cut the image in half, not necessarily bring the viewer into the image. Try crouching in the tideline when you frame the shot also; a low angle will maximize the effect you are looking for.
And yeah, bubbles are stubborn things.
Jun 26, 2018 16:12:26 #
I agree with rgrenaderphoto that it would be good to tuck the shoreline into the right bottom corner, but then we would loose that wide spread of sand that I rather like. Perhaps you do need to find a slightly better viewpoint. Otherwise, I reckon it achieves everything you set-out to get Bob. Very nicely.
Jun 26, 2018 16:34:11 #
If you framed it so the water line ends at the lower rt corner it would still have a lot of sand, the leading line of the water's edge would be a more powerful statement and there is too much sky to be an horizon and not enough to be a sweeping sky.
So frame it to have the water line lead from the LR corner to the trees with a bit less or more sky depending on your choice and you will still have the effect of beach going on to ???? Enough water to state "big lake" with no doubts and a more balanced composition not so much more or less dead space of the sand. You could also try a lower camera position to see if you like that more. I have seen some very striking wide angel landscapes taken from 12" or less from the ground.
So frame it to have the water line lead from the LR corner to the trees with a bit less or more sky depending on your choice and you will still have the effect of beach going on to ???? Enough water to state "big lake" with no doubts and a more balanced composition not so much more or less dead space of the sand. You could also try a lower camera position to see if you like that more. I have seen some very striking wide angel landscapes taken from 12" or less from the ground.
Jun 26, 2018 18:12:22 #
I'd love to see something in the foreground. I know that's not always possible but I think it would make a good photo great.
Jun 26, 2018 19:04:01 #
This version is good and looks finished when viewed full screen. The processing is interesting with nice somber colors on an overcast day. The details extend from the bottom margin well into the image and the clouds over the horizon. Don't know about emotions. 
If you create a copy, I think there's another interesting version in a 16:9 crop from this version. Try positioning the lower-left corner of the 16:9 crop-box to where the closer footprint exits the image via the lower left corner. Then, pull-in the upper-right corner until the horizon is back to the same position above the 1/3 line. See what you think of a version with a few more rocks in the foreground to bring the viewer a bit closer to the image details.
If you create a copy, I think there's another interesting version in a 16:9 crop from this version. Try positioning the lower-left corner of the 16:9 crop-box to where the closer footprint exits the image via the lower left corner. Then, pull-in the upper-right corner until the horizon is back to the same position above the 1/3 line. See what you think of a version with a few more rocks in the foreground to bring the viewer a bit closer to the image details.
Jun 26, 2018 19:26:44 #
Cany143
Loc: SE Utah
artBob wrote:
Getting out of my bubble is hard. I WANTED to express: space, distance, subtle color, peaceful solitude, and good but somewhat daring composition. It is a very satisfying photo to me in those areas. You all could help by telling me where my attempt succeeds and where it fails.
Its a pleasing enough photograph --actually rather more than that--, and while I completely agree with the compositional suggestions others have already made, the main thing that I see that could have been improved upon, and would have furthered your intent, would be the distant figure. Its too distant, almost to the point of inconsequentiality, thematically speaking.
Beyond that, none of the things you said you wanted to express are, in fact, emotions. With the possible exception of 'peaceful solitude' --which technically would be a feeling-- each of the other of your stated goals are concepts. I don't mean to get pointlessly semantic, but a reasoned assessment of whether or not emotions have been photographically expressed is outside the scope of the shot.
Jun 26, 2018 19:32:47 #
Cany143 wrote:
Its a pleasing enough photograph --actually rather... (show quote)
I am with Richard Diebenkorn and others who sense and try to create "esthetic emotion." From studies, it appears not all experience emotions from such kinesthetic things as distance, contrast, etc.
I appreciate your point of view, however, and will keep it in mind.
Jun 26, 2018 19:40:55 #
Cany143
Loc: SE Utah
artBob wrote:
I am with Richard Diebenkorn and others who sense and try to create "esthetic emotion." From studies, it appears not all experience emotions from such kinesthetic things as distance, contrast, etc.
I appreciate your point of view, however, and will keep it in mind.
I appreciate your point of view, however, and will keep it in mind.
Simple fix: Title: Is the aesthetic emotion I want to produce....
Jun 26, 2018 20:47:30 #
Cany143 wrote:
Its a pleasing enough photograph --actually rather... (show quote)
Bob, I agree with Cany143 including his endorsement of the other suggestions here. Whether they are emotions or concepts I think you checked all your boxes. Personally, I would try some of the crop suggestions above just to see, but it would be fine with me if you decided to leave it the way it is. They are your emotions, not ours.
Jun 26, 2018 21:25:39 #
I appreciate all your responses.
Here's what I garnered, the crop.
I forgot to note, and this is true of all my posts, feel free to show me what you mean by modifying my photo.
Not sure this works, especially in terms of composition. The look/metaphorical feeling of emptiness and distance without all that sand is changed, too.
Whad'ya say? Remember, feel free to rework my photo.
Here's what I garnered, the crop.
I forgot to note, and this is true of all my posts, feel free to show me what you mean by modifying my photo.
Not sure this works, especially in terms of composition. The look/metaphorical feeling of emptiness and distance without all that sand is changed, too.
Whad'ya say? Remember, feel free to rework my photo.
Jun 26, 2018 23:09:28 #
artBob wrote:
I appreciate all your responses.
Here's what I garnered, the crop.
I forgot to note, and this is true of all my posts, feel free to show me what you mean by modifying my photo.
Not sure this works, especially in terms of composition. The look/metaphorical feeling of emptiness and distance without all that sand is changed, too.
Whad'ya say? Remember, feel free to rework my photo.
Here's what I garnered, the crop.
I forgot to note, and this is true of all my posts, feel free to show me what you mean by modifying my photo.
Not sure this works, especially in terms of composition. The look/metaphorical feeling of emptiness and distance without all that sand is changed, too.
Whad'ya say? Remember, feel free to rework my photo.
Per your suggestion to show. My crop seems to favor the lines to the figure rather than foam in the water.
Jun 26, 2018 23:16:15 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Per your suggestion to show. My crop seems to favor the lines to the figure rather than foam in the water.
Like it better than my crop.
Jun 26, 2018 23:57:17 #
artBob wrote:
...... Remember, feel free to rework my photo.
I couldn't resist your invitation. Little less sand for balance. Horizon on the thirds for proportion. Little softer detail for tranquility?
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