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Jun 24, 2018 09:37:40   #
aschweik Loc: NE Ohio
 
camerapapi wrote:
In a workshop held by nature photographer John Shaw, that I attended in Orlando, Central Florida a few years ago, I saw a group of prints that he had for sale. Interesting enough he explained to those present that among those prints there were prints made from digital files and prints made from film. Can you tell which one was made from film and which one from digital? I did not open my mouth but I could recognize one of the prints he made from a Nikon F3 simply because I have seen it in one of his books. NOBODY there could tell which one was from film and which one from digital files.
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You do bring up a good point. And I wondered about this same thing with black and white. The film I used was black and white film....can you tell the difference between a photo that was taken with b&w film and one that was converted from color digital?

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Jun 24, 2018 09:48:07   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
aschweik wrote:
You do bring up a good point. And I wondered about this same thing with black and white. The film I used was black and white film....can you tell the difference between a photo that was taken with b&w film and one that was converted from color digital?


Great question. You've got me really thinking about how I process and scan my film, and what kind of film I should shoot... hmm....

Andy

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Jun 24, 2018 09:49:54   #
alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...
 
aschweik wrote:
I speak very little German. My husband speaks some and he translated for me. :) And, Longshadow is correct, aschweik is my screen name and is just a variation on my first and last name. I would love to learn more German. I've been to Germany several times and love it. Beer for breakfast? Excellent. :)

THANKS for the clarification ...


FWIW. My preference is for almost any Bok over most Lagers.

BTW. That was quite an ending to yesterday's Match against Sweden ... tough luck for Sweden, of course.



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Jun 24, 2018 10:07:36   #
BebuLamar
 
aschweik wrote:
You do bring up a good point. And I wondered about this same thing with black and white. The film I used was black and white film....can you tell the difference between a photo that was taken with b&w film and one that was converted from color digital?


Are you talking about a print made by optically printing and not one that the negative was scanned then printed digitally? In that case I think it's possible. If the someone makes a print from a color negative on regular B&W paper the contrast will look different. If they use B&W paper for color negative film then the contrast look better but then you can see what type of paper it is by looking at the back of the print.

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Jun 24, 2018 11:14:45   #
Diocletian
 
AndyH wrote:
Wow. I rarely see such a combination of ignorance, unsupported opinion, and nastiness toward a contributor who has provided so much valuable information over so many years.

I advise a chill pill. Relax.

It's not life or death, and intelligent and informed people may disagree from time to time.

Just my opinion, which, perhaps to your surprise, may be as valid as your own.

Andy


Thanks Andy. I really appreciate your cool head.

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Jun 24, 2018 11:18:25   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Diocletian wrote:
Thanks Andy. I really appreciate your cool head.


Perhaps not as cool as I would like to be. But attacking other members who have posted sincere responses grinds my gears (more than) a little.

Like the rest of the world, there are a large variety of personalities on UHH, and it takes all kinds.

I'm trying hard to be a kinder, gentler person, or at least play one on the Internet!

Andy

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Jun 24, 2018 11:22:37   #
Diocletian
 
AndyH wrote:
Perhaps not as cool as I would like to be. But attacking other members who have posted sincere responses grinds my gears a little.

Like the rest of the world, there are a large variety of personalities on UHH, and it takes all kinds.

I'm trying hard to be a kinder, gentler person, at least on the Internet!

Andy


And I just found the ignore button, that should take care of a few blood pressure points!

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Jun 24, 2018 11:27:38   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Diocletian wrote:
And I just found the ignore button, that should take care of a few blood pressure points!


I generally ignore the ignore button. I'm trying to train myself to use the one in my head.

Besides, even grumpy people sometimes have valuable ideas or contributions. I'm trying to judge the content, not the poster of it.

Not always successful in self discipline, of course!

Andy

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Jun 24, 2018 11:29:11   #
cdayton
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
There is a formula for determining what focal length lens was used but, you need to know 3 items to determine the 4th. You need to know the image size, how big the original object was, & how far away you were from the subject. The formula is I/F:G/A. I = image size; F = focal length; G = size of the original object; A = the distance from the subject. If more than 1 of the items can't be determined, you'd have to guesstimate. It goes back to aerial photography when you were taught to determine how big an object on film was based on knowing the focal length of the lens used, the altitude of the plane, and the image size on film.
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Irrelevant to the post, but your response reminded me of a project I worked on as part of an Army contract that involved developing a field manual for photogrammetry. This was way before portable computers (the Univac 1100 was somewhat unwieldy) so everything was by hand (or sliderule).

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Jun 24, 2018 11:36:41   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
aschweik wrote:
Is there a way to determine what lens was used when viewing photos taken with a film camera? I'm thinking probably not, but I have to ask. lol. I recently bought the following at a garage sale:

Minolta Maxxum 7000
Sigma 28-70 lens
Minolta 50mm lens
Minolta 70-210 lens
Various filters and a filter holder

They only wanted $30 for everything! But had no idea if the camera worked. So I figured for 30 bucks, it's not a big deal if there was a problem with any of the items. So I cleaned it up...no scratches on the lenses since they were covered with protective filters. My daughter had old film from a photography class...it was expired but I just wanted to see if the camera worked. I shot the roll of film using all the lenses to test them out. Just got the photos uploaded today from The Darkroom. Looks like the camera and lenses work great! But I just don't remember what photos I took with what lens. It doesn't really matter...I really just wanted to make sure it all worked (it does...and the expired film, too...). But I was just wondering if there is any way to tell what lens was used for each shot.

Thanks for helping me out. I haven't shot film for a long time and back when I did, I probably didn't care what lens I used, so never thought about it. But now that I'm learning more about photography, the more questions I have! :)
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It's totally dependent on the camera. I have two that record some of that data, a Nikon F6 and an N90X.

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Jun 24, 2018 11:50:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Diocletian wrote:
And I just found the ignore button, that should take care of a few blood pressure points!

I've only placed one person on my ignore list a long time ago because he was so caustic and sarcastic to people.
Turned out he was eventually kicked off the forum.
Like AndyH, I try to use use my mental ignore first.

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Jun 24, 2018 11:56:36   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Yes, its called a notebook. Carried in the vest or shirt pocket of every pro film photographer to record shooting information on any shot where he or she may want shooting info later on.


I second that. A notebook and PENCIL (no runs WHEN it gets wet)are required in any field work.

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Jun 24, 2018 13:01:58   #
lehighjack Loc: somewhere in FL
 
As a long time Minolta/Sony user, congratulations on your "find"!The 70-210 (hopefully the f/4) is known as the "Beer Can" and depending on when made, ranges from really, really good to excellent in use. The Sigma, assuming it to be an 2.8, depending on when manufactured, may not work(in AF modes) on a new AF Sony, unless you can find the arcane sequence to mount and dismount the lens. In any event, you have a trove of quality equipment. I really like the Sony Alpha A Mount cameras, and recommend the SLT A77ii as a great match to your lenses. I was at a photo club "low light" shoot last evening; it was so nice to not worry about a mono or tripod, shooting stopped down, as the camera has In Body Image Stabilization. One caveat, please use the lens hood with the Minolta glass and not filters, unless they are top of the line. Minolta lenses have great color rendering (opinion) abilities. Have fun!!

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Jun 24, 2018 13:05:43   #
BebuLamar
 
If the OP can post some pictures we can then figure out which picture were taken with which lens. That would be a fun thing to do. Some will be obvious and some will be tough.

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Jun 24, 2018 13:24:58   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
aschweik wrote:
Is there a way to determine what lens was used when viewing photos taken with a film camera? I'm thinking probably not, but I have to ask. lol. I recently bought the following at a garage sale:

Minolta Maxxum 7000
Sigma 28-70 lens
Minolta 50mm lens
Minolta 70-210 lens
Various filters and a filter holder

They only wanted $30 for everything! But had no idea if the camera worked. So I figured for 30 bucks, it's not a big deal if there was a problem with any of the items. So I cleaned it up...no scratches on the lenses since they were covered with protective filters. My daughter had old film from a photography class...it was expired but I just wanted to see if the camera worked. I shot the roll of film using all the lenses to test them out. Just got the photos uploaded today from The Darkroom. Looks like the camera and lenses work great! But I just don't remember what photos I took with what lens. It doesn't really matter...I really just wanted to make sure it all worked (it does...and the expired film, too...). But I was just wondering if there is any way to tell what lens was used for each shot.

Thanks for helping me out. I haven't shot film for a long time and back when I did, I probably didn't care what lens I used, so never thought about it. But now that I'm learning more about photography, the more questions I have! :)
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$30. Yes... nice find for a whole lotta' fun!

"alfeng" ... troll is as troll does.....

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