Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

COOL YOU JETS JACK!
No, "I" could not tell the difference between a 70 prime and a zoom set at 70!!!
I do not have that good of knowledge of my lenses to do that.
(and 70 was a number that I pulled out of the air. Rather it be 50?)

alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...

OMG!

An individual who wallows in his ignorance and laziness ...

An unfortunate example of what is wrong with America in the 21st Century.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Have a great day.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Wrong quote. Corrected.

I'm not addressing you, Longshadow, but the troll who responded to you...

Andy

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Wow. I rarely see such a combination of ignorance, unsupported opinion, and nastiness toward a contributor who has provided so much valuable information over so many years.

I advise a chill pill. Relax.

It's not life or death, and intelligent and informed people may disagree from time to time.

Just my opinion, which, perhaps to your surprise, may be as valid as your own.

Andy

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

No problem Andy!!

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Whether I agree with you or not on any particular topic, you're one of the "Crazy Ones" I mentioned in a previous post, always taking people sincerely at face value, and always offering honest advice from your own perspective.

Andy

aschweik Loc: NE Ohio

Thank you for all the info. Next time I will pay more attention and take notes. This time my prime concern was whether everything was working right. I'm playing with this camera to see if I may want a a good film camera at some point. At that time, I'll probably be back to ask about that, too. For now, I'll play with what I have and get used to film again. (And get rid of about 10 rolls of film that expired 5 years ago). Again, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I'll have more in the future!

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Sorry this got dragged into the murk by the superior ones. No, you can't be expected to remember which lens, at which focal length, was responsible for each shot. I am at the CRS (Can't Remember Stuff) age, and that's why I do the "shoot the card" routine when I'm testing out new equipment. It's a pretty good habit to adopt, IMHO.

And you made a SCORE! for those lenses and body at that price. I'm not familiar with that particular model, but I love shooting film for fun, and the scanned film images make a great base for PP.

Rockin' the emulsion!

Andy

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Thank you Andy, I appreciate that!

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

You have had many good responses, since there is no EXIF data with film it is harder, but you only have three lenses, and so you may be able to make a mental note when you choose a lens for an image. A pencil and notebook will clearly be a little more accurate. Once you get a feel for the lenses, you may be able to tell by looking at the images, there are multiple clues that can be used, DOF, distance from subject, sharpness or softness, and so on. I use several manual lenses on my DSLRs, although I have chips that can transmit some information as well as focus confirmation. It takes a little attention to detail, but it is certainly possible to get it right most of the time, visually or just by keeping a mental or physical note.

Have fun, it's not as hard as it seems, I only have a few film bodies, and when I use one it sticks in my mind which lens (or lenses) I'm using.

alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...

Fascinating ...

Really, two Trolls for-the-price-of-one!

Okay, I'll reply to you, too ...

Your pal, Longshadow, did not reply to the OP's query ...

Then, he made the fairly ridiculous remark: "I think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between two zooms that do 70mm, or a fixed 70 and a zoom at 70."

... I believe that it is safe to say that few vintage Zoom lenses (which is what the OP has) compare with most Prime lenses.

You pal immediately follows with an almost unintelligible: "WAY not worth the trouble for me."

I believe that IF you were to reflect on Longshadow's posts in THIS thread then you would necessarily conclude that he was clearly trolling with his replies.

If you want to defend his inarticulate remarks, well, more power to the two of you ...

And so, you have provided us with yet another unfortunate example of what is wrong with America in the 21st Century.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

You mean like unsupported opinions, nasty rhetoric, and attacks on anyone you view as an "other"?

Take a look in the mirror... it might be illuminating.

Your "discussion points" may even be correct, but your attitude and "attack first" approach aren't what I'm personally here to read. And you haven't, in your entire history here, posted a single image that has provoked a single "well done" comment from anyone. Not one. This may be more a comment on the personality you project than on the quality of your work. Is there a reason for this? (Yes, before posting a negative comment, I read every single post you've made - I don't dismiss people casually. We all have value.). You may be the greatest photographer since Ansel Adams, but AA did not spend his career disparaging the work of others.

Why do you post here? Does it really make you feel a bigger man to disparage others almost every time you post?

If people don't like you, it might not be a conspiracy, whether of dunces or not, it might just have something to do with your attitude. Your mastery of text codes does not indicate anything except that you know boldface and type colors. That's not the same as superior knowledge or taste.

I don't dislike you, or disparage your opinions, but you might take a look in the mirror to see why you seem to provoke such intense negative emotions from others, and, perhaps, reconsider your opinion of your own superiority on all matters photographic. For a guy with a Spiratone lens, you do seem just a tiny bit haughty. I'm not the greatest photographer out there, but at least I try to be helpful to others and encouraging in further pursuit of this wonderful hobby of ours.

Wishing you happiness. No matter what additional names you call me.

Andy

alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...

Well ...

... Oh, is THAT prefatory remark an attack?!?

Do you REALLY consider this opening to be an attack?:

WOW!?!

Everyone ELSE must be so far removed from the days when they shot film WITHOUT a Zoom lens that they just don't remember what's what about some of the basics of photography ...

OR, is that opening an attack because YOU were the first-in-line with a lazy reply?!?

If you take the time to re-read the posts in this thread (for example) which preceded mine which may-or-may-not have been well-intentioned and which were hopefully meant to be meaningful replies to the OP BUT which which were clearly wrong & misleading DESPITE the declarations of the posters then I don't think it is fair to say that calling out the emperor-for-not-wearing-any-clothes can be considered as an attack ...

Unless the well meaning cognoscenti are all "Snowflakes" ...

Is THAT the case?

Your pal was among those who ALSO provided an unequivocally wrong reply ...

... His subsequently flip reply to my post was meaningless & inaccurate ... and, it was gratuitous and therefore a trolling remark.

... His flip reply to the subsequent post by nicksr1125 was MORE of a trolling remark, IMO. Just because your pal declared himself to be too lazy (in so many words) to do the math did not warrant his gratuitous remark to the how-to BECAUSE nicksr1125 was replying directly to the OP's query by indicating that a technical methodology can be employed to determine the focal length of a lens used to take a photograph.

Perhaps, YOU should re-read the OP's original post and nicksr1125's reply.

BTW. Calling YOU out as a Troll is just an observation ...

Now, if my memory serves me, I believe that the reason that I specifically mentioned the PRE-SET Spiratone lens (a friend gave me the lens a few years ago) is to ensure that anyone who might be interested that it wasn't necessary to spend a lot of money for a reasonably good optic ...

But, I would say that by the way that YOU referred to that lens that YOU are an equipment snob ...

.. Nothing wrong with that if that's where you choose to come from.

And, I guess you NEITHER liked the image NOR could appreciate the technical component in taking it ...

That's life!

Well, why don't YOU -- with whatever fancy-schamncy equipment you use -- see if you can replicate it.

Did you REALLY read ALL of my posts?!? Could you catalog all my "unsupported opinions" OR were you just having a "snowflake" moment when you read them and were you subsequently shooting-from-the-lip?

HMmmm. Who knew that a Troll (i.e., YOU) could be an apparent "Snowflake" (i.e., again YOU) could be a bully, too? After all, YOU are trying to bully me into not posting, n'est-ce pas?.

Yeah, it is YOU who should look in the mirror.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Quod erat demonstrandum. Yes, I really read every single one of your posts. I don't give up on people easily.

No loss, although I will miss your blurry images, your unprovoked attacks on others, and your colorful use of italics and bold face.

Does your dog hate you too? Or just your wife, family, and strangers on the Internet? No loss...

Buh bye. Maybe look up "projection" in the DSM? The sixth edition is out...

Peace, I hope you find it...

Andy